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Post by djduncanjames on Dec 30, 2014 22:13:11 GMT
Starting to think this was a very poor signing by Hughes, another Palacios getting paid to do nothing and impossible to move on elsewhere. My villa mate warned me he would lose interest. I wonder if he will even make the bench on Thursday if Bojan is indeed injured.
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Post by davejohnno1 on Dec 30, 2014 22:16:19 GMT
He was a gamble worth taking for me. He cost us little, isn't from what I'm led to believe, on astronomical wages (he's earning less than Tonge, Gudjohnson and Owen did) and is actually a very good and very intelligent footballer.
Fitness has been his big issue and everytime he's got himself in the team, he's picked up an injury.
He's had some good games for us and pre-season evidence pointed towards him being an important player for us. It hasn't worked out that way but he's a useful alternative to Bojan, if he's ever fit, which doesn't seem like he will be.
A risk worth taking but one that doesn't seem likely to have a happy ending at this moment in time.
I repeat, I do like him as a player though. He is a very good footballer.
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Post by Pretty Little Boother on Dec 30, 2014 22:19:16 GMT
He's injured at the moment, to be fair. He'll never be anywhere near Bojan in terms of ability, but you'd assume Ireland would be backup to Bojan when fit. I fucking love Charlie Adam but he's better suited to cameos. I'd imagine he'd be happy with that as well because he can continue to eat as many pies and drink as many pints as he likes. He is Scottish, after all.
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Post by y2j on Dec 30, 2014 22:20:55 GMT
Decent player but as Dave has said very injury prone. Personally I'd let him go at the end of the season.
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Post by werrington on Dec 30, 2014 22:27:35 GMT
So already this season we've had Whelan , Nzonzi ,Sidwell ,Adam and now Ireland all needing to be fucked off and not what we need
Jeez that's every fucking midfield player
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Post by davejohnno1 on Dec 30, 2014 22:30:08 GMT
So already this season we've had Whelan , Nzonzi ,Sidwell ,Adam and now Ireland all needing to be fucked off and not what we need Jeez that's every fucking midfield player To be fair mate, if we could do some "wheeling and dealing" I wouldn't be disappointed to lose Adam and Ireland with another "better" player coming in to replace them. Adam and Ireland out for Dembele in for example, would be more than preferable. It's a shame re Ireland but at this stage it really doesn't look like he's going to have the impact a player of his ability should be having. Still time I guess, but he just never seems to be able to get himself fit.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2014 22:32:24 GMT
Good player who still has a role to play in our squad when fit again. He was a big influence in a lot of games last season which it seems people are all too quick to forget.
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Post by werrington on Dec 30, 2014 22:33:26 GMT
So already this season we've had Whelan , Nzonzi ,Sidwell ,Adam and now Ireland all needing to be fucked off and not what we need Jeez that's every fucking midfield player To be fair mate, if we could do some "wheeling and dealing" I wouldn't be disappointed to lose Adam and Ireland with another "better" player coming in to replace them. Adam and Ireland out for Dembele in for example, would be more than preferable. It's a shame re Ireland but at this stage it really doesn't look like he's going to have the impact a player of his ability should be having. Still time I guess, but he just never seems to be able to get himself fit. Ireland wasn't my point mate It's just that I have no idea what many on here expect
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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2014 22:33:43 GMT
You have to be honest and say Ireland has been a poor signing, even for free. He's offered very little in comparison to Charlie Adam, a player already at the club, and he is now behind Bojan for the No.10 role as well as Diouf and Walters who can play there and offer more of a goal threat from that position.
He's been overtaken very quickly.
I'd love him to roar back into contention as he was one of my favourite non Stoke players whilst at Man City but you question his hunger since his move away from the Etihad.
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Post by cobhamstokey on Dec 30, 2014 22:33:44 GMT
I like him as a player and he's not bad cover for the Bojan role but I think having both him and Adam is excessive with the wages they're on. One of them I'm sure will leave if not in jan then in the summer.
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Post by y2j on Dec 30, 2014 22:34:53 GMT
So already this season we've had Whelan , Nzonzi ,Sidwell ,Adam and now Ireland all needing to be fucked off and not what we need Jeez that's every fucking midfield player The difference is Ireland has barely played (as has Sidwell). You can't have many more out injured and as regularly as they have
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Post by thehoof on Dec 30, 2014 22:58:00 GMT
I wouldn't miss Ireland at all.
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Post by mrcoke on Dec 30, 2014 23:14:34 GMT
Can't see a problem with MH's signing of Ireland. It was a good punt at the time to take a very cheap chance on a player who has played very well at ManC and good start at Villa in the past. It hasn't worked out and events have moved on with Bojan. That's football, you can't win them all.
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Post by stokiejoeofalsager on Dec 30, 2014 23:23:25 GMT
He's a very good player. Wouldn't be surprised to see him against Wrexham.
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Post by right on Dec 30, 2014 23:25:52 GMT
Don't think he's contributing much now but he played a bigger role in our success last season.
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Post by maninasuitcase on Dec 30, 2014 23:44:11 GMT
He seemed to nosedive when he signed permanently. Must be that 'feet under the table' syndrome I've heard about.
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Post by Gary Hackett on Dec 31, 2014 0:01:07 GMT
He's a proper number 10 same as Bojan and was one of the reasons we had a great end to last season along with Odemwingie, unfortunately he's not had the impact I'd expected this season for whatever reason but he'd be the ideal choice to replace Bojan if fit. I don't understand people saying Adam is the perfect replacement to Bojan as he's better much deeper.
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Post by sportsman on Dec 31, 2014 0:05:58 GMT
I like ireland. Never had a run of games. When he plays for the first time after a while some expect him to be xavi.
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Post by y_oh_y_delilah on Dec 31, 2014 0:10:00 GMT
I wouldn't miss Ireland at all. Nor me and Scotland can fcuk off as well.
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Post by cheeesfreeex on Dec 31, 2014 1:03:04 GMT
He was a gamble worth taking for me. He cost us little, isn't from what I'm led to believe, on astronomical wages (he's earning less than Tonge, Gudjohnson and Owen did) and is actually a very good and very intelligent footballer. Fitness has been his big issue and everytime he's got himself in the team, he's picked up an injury. He's had some good games for us and pre-season evidence pointed towards him being an important player for us. It hasn't worked out that way but he's a useful alternative to Bojan, if he's ever fit, which doesn't seem like he will be. A risk worth taking but one that doesn't seem likely to have a happy ending at this moment in time. I repeat, I do like him as a player though. He is a very good footballer. That's some serious shite spouted there mucker. We were forced into signing Ireland on a permanent deal to accommodate a loan of Guidetti. That worked out well. Ireland is on a significant weekly wage. Your Pulis wage jibes don't stack up. His pre-season form????? was replicated in the first game of the season against Villa, when his handbag hurt his own ribs, and since then he's had a cameo on the wing... the worst player in our squad, I rate Palacios above Ireland. Shhhhh don't tell anyone else because he needs offloading pronto. How the feck does he 'pick up injuries' because he shits out of every challenge. A crash test dummy for Bojan, or a makeweight for Shenton at best.... Swap him for Will Hughes from Derby, or for Tom Pope. Both better prospects. Waste of the red and white. Not Steven's fault of course, but I'm disappointed that Hughes was such a mug. Frends.
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Post by djduncanjames on Dec 31, 2014 1:18:59 GMT
Forgot about Guidetti. We have wasted some Serious money on wages the past few years. Which is why I guess I'm frustrated with Ireland, kinda let Hughes down really.
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Post by cheeesfreeex on Dec 31, 2014 1:41:24 GMT
Forgot about Guidetti. We have wasted some Serious money on wages the past few years. Which is why I guess I'm frustrated with Ireland, kinda let Hughes down really. Yep, my vitriol against Ireland is wasted, but he has been such a let down. Must try harder. Hope he sticks it up my jacksy against Man U, sincerely. Doubt it though. January defenestration.
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Post by RAF on Dec 31, 2014 5:26:52 GMT
So already this season we've had Whelan , Nzonzi ,Sidwell ,Adam and now Ireland all needing to be fucked off and not what we need Jeez that's every fucking midfield player Don't forget Arnie, Moses and the too lightweight for the Prem false number 9 luxury player Bojan as well Wezza. We have some reet cockwads on here and no mistake. H
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Post by cheekymatt71 on Dec 31, 2014 8:50:18 GMT
I do think he has a lack of hunger for the game. Common footballers problem when they are multi-millionaires and their best days are past them. He was the main man for a while at Man City and now he finds himself 3rd choice at Stoke.
He has all the skill in the world but the application of a French Soldier
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Post by ianstokie on Dec 31, 2014 9:05:56 GMT
Was it a dream, that goal against Chelsea?
Once he's fit he'll be back in the team, maybe not all the time, but he's a Sparky favourite.
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Post by robwahlmann on Dec 31, 2014 9:12:32 GMT
At his best Ireland is a fantastic player, and how long can we hang on to Bojan?
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Post by davejohnno1 on Dec 31, 2014 9:16:12 GMT
He was a gamble worth taking for me. He cost us little, isn't from what I'm led to believe, on astronomical wages (he's earning less than Tonge, Gudjohnson and Owen did) and is actually a very good and very intelligent footballer. Fitness has been his big issue and everytime he's got himself in the team, he's picked up an injury. He's had some good games for us and pre-season evidence pointed towards him being an important player for us. It hasn't worked out that way but he's a useful alternative to Bojan, if he's ever fit, which doesn't seem like he will be. A risk worth taking but one that doesn't seem likely to have a happy ending at this moment in time. I repeat, I do like him as a player though. He is a very good footballer. That's some serious shite spouted there mucker. We were forced into signing Ireland on a permanent deal to accommodate a loan of Guidetti. That worked out well. Ireland is on a significant weekly wage. Your Pulis wage jibes don't stack up. His pre-season form????? was replicated in the first game of the season against Villa, when his handbag hurt his own ribs, and since then he's had a cameo on the wing... the worst player in our squad, I rate Palacios above Ireland. Shhhhh don't tell anyone else because he needs offloading pronto. How the feck does he 'pick up injuries' because he shits out of every challenge. A crash test dummy for Bojan, or a makeweight for Shenton at best.... Swap him for Will Hughes from Derby, or for Tom Pope. Both better prospects. Waste of the red and white. Not Steven's fault of course, but I'm disappointed that Hughes was such a mug. Frends. There was no jibe at Pulis at all. You're paranoid pal.
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Post by bertiestan on Dec 31, 2014 9:16:19 GMT
He was a gamble worth taking for me. He cost us little, isn't from what I'm led to believe, on astronomical wages (he's earning less than Tonge, Gudjohnson and Owen did) and is actually a very good and very intelligent footballer. Fitness has been his big issue and everytime he's got himself in the team, he's picked up an injury. He's had some good games for us and pre-season evidence pointed towards him being an important player for us. It hasn't worked out that way but he's a useful alternative to Bojan, if he's ever fit, which doesn't seem like he will be. A risk worth taking but one that doesn't seem likely to have a happy ending at this moment in time. I repeat, I do like him as a player though. He is a very good footballer. That's some serious shite spouted there mucker. We were forced into signing Ireland on a permanent deal to accommodate a loan of Guidetti. That worked out well. Ireland is on a significant weekly wage. Your Pulis wage jibes don't stack up. His pre-season form????? was replicated in the first game of the season against Villa, when his handbag hurt his own ribs, and since then he's had a cameo on the wing... the worst player in our squad, I rate Palacios above Ireland. Shhhhh don't tell anyone else because he needs offloading pronto. How the feck does he 'pick up injuries' because he shits out of every challenge. A crash test dummy for Bojan, or a makeweight for Shenton at best.... Swap him for Will Hughes from Derby, or for Tom Pope. Both better prospects. Waste of the red and white. Not Steven's fault of course, but I'm disappointed that Hughes was such a mug. Frends. Lost all credibility when I saw the name tom pope.
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Post by pwllhelipotter on Dec 31, 2014 9:35:33 GMT
Ireland is a waste of space. He never evan try's .
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Post by 2004 on Dec 31, 2014 9:44:01 GMT
I don't mind Ireland as I think he was worth the gamble.
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