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Post by wearepremierleague on Dec 22, 2014 23:33:35 GMT
Ok Bardsley
Is he better on the ball? No
will he get more assists? No
Will he get more goals? No
Does he get caught out of position? Yes
Has he been accountable for many goals this season ? Yes
Should he have been sent off tonight? Probably
Is he better than Cameron at right back ? No
Is Whelan better than Cameron in centre midfield? Yes
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Post by bayernoatcake on Dec 22, 2014 23:34:29 GMT
I like the fifth given the first goal today.  |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 22, 2014 23:35:42 GMT
Strewth !
with 'support' like this - there can be no limits to where we can go
unbefuckinglievable
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Post by Deleted on Dec 22, 2014 23:35:42 GMT
I like the fifth given the first goal today. I'm glad you can raise a smile after our right backs "performance" today. |
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Post by Jamo on the wing on Dec 22, 2014 23:36:03 GMT
Bardsley was awful tonight as was Cameron.
I'd still have Bardsley over Cameron as I generally don't rate Geoff in the main.
He gave the ball away a ridiculous amount of times tonight.
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Post by robwahlmann on Dec 22, 2014 23:37:17 GMT
If Bards could play as he did before he got injured this season I would certainly prefer Bards, but after the injury I really think he has been poor for too many games. Right now I would actually opt for Cameron despite I know he often loses his concentartion.  |
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Post by Davef on Dec 22, 2014 23:38:16 GMT
Are people really judging Phil Bardsley's effectiveness for Stoke City based on a night against one of the best players in the world?
Give me strength.
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Post by Bojan Mackey on Dec 22, 2014 23:38:38 GMT
Recall Wilko.
Dun dun dunnnnn.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 22, 2014 23:39:57 GMT
Bardsley was awful tonight as was Cameron. I'd still have Bardsley over Cameron as I generally don't rate Geoff in the main. He gave the ball away a ridiculous amount of times tonight. 81% pass accuracy. |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Dec 22, 2014 23:40:20 GMT
I like the fifth given the first goal today. I'm glad you can raise a smile after our right backs "performance" today. I genuinely thought he was ok, I know not many do but Chelsea really didn't trouble us much and that was down to a good defensive performance in general. The first goal is wank marking from Cameron. The second is a result of chasing the game. Hazard wasn't great I thought, in fact I thought he was quite poor. And that tackle Bardsley did was fucking fantastic.  |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 22, 2014 23:41:01 GMT
As the 'thought police' contend - we are judging people whilst playing against one of the top half dozen sides in Europe on this thread
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Post by numpty40 on Dec 22, 2014 23:42:05 GMT
I'm becoming more concerned with Bardsley with every game, Cameron is simply a better a footballer who doesn't make stupid rash challenges.
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Post by wearepremierleague on Dec 22, 2014 23:42:05 GMT
Are people really judging Phil Bardsley's effectiveness for Stoke City based on a night against one of the best players in the world? Give me strength. No. I'm judging him on being shit in most games this season |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 22, 2014 23:42:12 GMT
I'm glad you can raise a smile after our right backs "performance" today. I genuinely thought he was ok, I know not many do but Chelsea really didn't trouble us much and that was down to a good defensive performance in general. The first goal is wank marking from Cameron. The second is a result of chasing the game. Hazard wasn't great I thought, in fact I thought he was quite poor. And that tackle Bardsley did was fucking fantastic. Watch Crouch for the first. Goodnight mate. |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Dec 22, 2014 23:43:28 GMT
I genuinely thought he was ok, I know not many do but Chelsea really didn't trouble us much and that was down to a good defensive performance in general. The first goal is wank marking from Cameron. The second is a result of chasing the game. Hazard wasn't great I thought, in fact I thought he was quite poor. And that tackle Bardsley did was fucking fantastic. Watch Crouch for the first. Goodnight mate. He's Cameron's man, Cameron is nowhere near him. |
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Post by chuckrocky on Dec 22, 2014 23:45:17 GMT
Are people really judging Phil Bardsley's effectiveness for Stoke City based on a night against one of the best players in the world? Give me strength. What has playing against Hazard got to do with Bardsley's shocking first touch and inability to put in a decent cross? |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Dec 22, 2014 23:47:57 GMT
The worst offender tonight for crossing a certain senor Krkic.....
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Post by Jamo on the wing on Dec 22, 2014 23:53:08 GMT
Bardsley was awful tonight as was Cameron. I'd still have Bardsley over Cameron as I generally don't rate Geoff in the main. He gave the ball away a ridiculous amount of times tonight. 81% pass accuracy. Killed us often by gifting the ball away with that fucking wank, airy fairy flick pass with the outside of his boot. He was fucking woeful and we improved DRAMATICALLY when Charlie replaced him. |
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Post by numpty40 on Dec 22, 2014 23:53:24 GMT
The worst offender tonight for crossing a certain senor Krkic..... Very true unfortunately |
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Post by ursems2boots on Dec 22, 2014 23:58:06 GMT
Geoff was poor tonight  |
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Post by stokemanusa on Dec 23, 2014 0:02:41 GMT
Bardsley was awful tonight as was Cameron. I'd still have Bardsley over Cameron as I generally don't rate Geoff in the main. He gave the ball away a ridiculous amount of times tonight. Bardsley lost possession and was out of position just as much as Cameron in midfield tbh. Both were out classed today. But Bardsley going forward is woeful usually no matter the opposition. He's the new Wilko who can cross once a game. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 23, 2014 0:07:48 GMT
Ok Bardsley Is he better on the ball? No will he get more assists? No Will he get more goals? No Does he get caught out of position? Yes Has he been accountable for many goals this season ? Yes Should he have been sent off tonight? Probably Is he better than Cameron at right back ? No Is Whelan better than Cameron in centre midfield? Yes what a load of total shite |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 23, 2014 0:08:16 GMT
Killed us often by gifting the ball away with that fucking wank, airy fairy flick pass with the outside of his boot. He was fucking woeful and we improved DRAMATICALLY when Charlie replaced him. Much better than our RB. |
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Post by sheikhmomo on Dec 23, 2014 0:09:33 GMT
Bardsley looks permanently injured to me.
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Post by Jimm on Dec 23, 2014 0:09:36 GMT
I'd play Cameron at RB against the top teams as going forward Cameron is a lot stronger, and against the lesser sides, Bardsley as he's more of an old school full back who gets stuck in
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Post by Deleted on Dec 23, 2014 0:11:22 GMT
Bardsley was awful tonight as was Cameron. I'd still have Bardsley over Cameron as I generally don't rate Geoff in the main. He gave the ball away a ridiculous amount of times tonight. Bardsley lost possession and was out of position just as much as Cameron in midfield tbh. Both were out classed today. But Bardsley going forward is woeful usually no matter the opposition. He's the new Wilko who can cross once a game. yes I agree with you for once - both were shit. Cameron was our worst player by some distance though. I know for some reason that you will take that personally as usual just because he plays for USA |
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Post by metalhead on Dec 23, 2014 0:12:25 GMT
Bardsley was awful tonight as was Cameron. I'd still have Bardsley over Cameron as I generally don't rate Geoff in the main. He gave the ball away a ridiculous amount of times tonight. Jamo, Cameron probably gave the ball away a fair few more times than N'Zonzi actually put in a tackle. From that perspective, they complimented each other. Cameron was winning the battle with players far his superior. N'Zonzi put in a single challenge, albeit a massively important one, as Chelsea were breaking. I don't think Bards performance was absolutely horrific. I don't think Cameron's was either. Going up against Hazard and co is a massive challenge and better players have failed miserably. We're all blaming the players for the fact we were simply beaten by a better team. If we want to beat teams like Chelsea on a consistent basis, Coates would have to invest his life savings... and he won't, so forget that. |
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Post by metalhead on Dec 23, 2014 0:13:46 GMT
Bardsley lost possession and was out of position just as much as Cameron in midfield tbh. Both were out classed today. But Bardsley going forward is woeful usually no matter the opposition. He's the new Wilko who can cross once a game. yes I agree with you for once - both were shit. Cameron was our worst player by some distance though. I know for some reason that you will take that personally as usual just because he plays for USA Sorry, I know your agenda is an important thing, I've read your shit before... But that is absolute bollocks of the first class. 100% pure bullshit. You find it on a Wednesday when listening to PMQ's. Sorry Pete, just no. |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Dec 23, 2014 0:14:06 GMT
Hazard did sod all tonight really.....but the right back was shit apparently.
I thought he was ok.....
I thought the defensive unit including Cameron played well tonight in open play tbh. The issues came in the final third and one set piece. Chelsea really didn't trouble us.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 23, 2014 0:14:56 GMT
Killed us often by gifting the ball away with that fucking wank, airy fairy flick pass with the outside of his boot. He was fucking woeful and we improved DRAMATICALLY when Charlie replaced him. Pieters pass accuracy 88% Bardsley pass accuracy 65% |
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