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Post by 2004 on Dec 22, 2014 23:04:22 GMT
I saw some promising signs tonight. I feel most confident with this pairing at the back. This could end up being a really solid combination.
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Post by fca47 on Dec 22, 2014 23:08:44 GMT
From open play, think they did well,it's from set pieces Muniesa would worry me, but you can say that about our whole defence. Thought they handled Costa well, he was reduced to whining like a big girl.
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Post by lordb on Dec 22, 2014 23:08:45 GMT
Might well do
I'd bring Huth back ASAP and play MM at left back,Eric looks lost this season.
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Post by robwahlmann on Dec 22, 2014 23:08:47 GMT
I have probably been among those who have defended Wilson the most, but I agree that Ryan and Muni are a promising pairing.  |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Dec 22, 2014 23:11:08 GMT
I think it has the potential to be really excellent.
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Post by Bojan Mackey on Dec 22, 2014 23:11:24 GMT
A traditional centre-half alongside a ball-playing centre-back.
What's not to like?.
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Post by maxdecarlo on Dec 23, 2014 1:13:17 GMT
you must have red and white blinkers on - both goals were due to abyssmal central defending- where the hell was muniesa to be seen forthe first goal- what wa shawcross doing for the second- he showed his limitations as he did for england- HUTH is needed badly or this shower is going down- we cant defend and struggle to score bad combination
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Post by stokemanusa on Dec 23, 2014 1:22:17 GMT
you must have red and white blinkers on - both goals were due to abyssmal central defending- where the hell was muniesa to be seen forthe first goal- what wa shawcross doing for the second- he showed his limitations as he did for england- HUTH is needed badly or this shower is going down- we cant defend and struggle to score bad combination Muniesa was marking his man, Geoff is to blame for the first one. Christ alive you must be blind. |
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Post by BraveSirRobin on Dec 23, 2014 1:27:40 GMT
you must have red and white blinkers on - both goals were due to abyssmal central defending- where the hell was muniesa to be seen forthe first goal- what wa shawcross doing for the second- he showed his limitations as he did for england- HUTH is needed badly or this shower is going down- we cant defend and struggle to score bad combination You must have been the twat that was sat behind me tonight. ..moaning about everything but strangely cheered when terry scored cos he had a bet on him and 2-0. |
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Post by stokemanusa on Dec 23, 2014 1:27:45 GMT
It's like a great white shark with it's little apprentice under his fin.  Puyol was shorter than Pique and they made a really good partnership – it's not a problem. I have one set of characteristics and Ryan Shawcross has another and I think together we can work very well." - Marc Muniesa Boom. Huge potential. |
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Post by bignickhowes on Dec 23, 2014 1:43:24 GMT
you must have red and white blinkers on - both goals were due to abyssmal central defending- where the hell was muniesa to be seen forthe first goal- what wa shawcross doing for the second- he showed his limitations as he did for england- HUTH is needed badly or this shower is going down- we cant defend and struggle to score bad combination have to agree im afraid, looked shaky all night against one man up top |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 23, 2014 2:05:28 GMT
you must have red and white blinkers on - both goals were due to abyssmal central defending- where the hell was muniesa to be seen forthe first goal- what wa shawcross doing for the second- he showed his limitations as he did for england- HUTH is needed badly or this shower is going down- we cant defend and struggle to score bad combination have to agree im afraid, looked shaky all night against one man up top Scored from a set piece (Cameron's man) and created one other chance first half which was offside, got caught a couple of times late in the 2nd half whilst chasing the game. Not sure how that's looking shaky, both centre halves handled Costa well. The better team won on the night that was all.... |
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Post by Gary Hackett on Dec 23, 2014 2:41:31 GMT
Looking good to me, I think this will be our regular back four for the foreseeable future.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Dec 23, 2014 3:12:12 GMT
I thought Shawcross did most of the work myself, did a lot of Muniesas for him, not convinced.
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Post by tuum on Dec 23, 2014 5:48:11 GMT
you must have red and white blinkers on - both goals were due to abyssmal central defending- where the hell was muniesa to be seen forthe first goal- what wa shawcross doing for the second- he showed his limitations as he did for england- HUTH is needed badly or this shower is going down- we cant defend and struggle to score bad combination What you have posted is grade two shite. (In my opinion of course). It is not the highest level of shite because it could be argued that Shawcross should have been tighter but that argument ignores the dynamic nature of defending.When teams like Chelsea attack defenders often end up marking space rather than the man. It happens regularly and is not always 'abysmal' defending..just a fact that we have to accept. Your concern for Muniesa's positioning is misplaced (excuse the play on words). Perhaps Cameron should have got in front of Terry but I am not going to vilify him for that...attackers often get ahead of defenders but it rarely ends in a goal...see above, about marking space. Not sure what Crouch was doing vacating his position in front of goal to leave the space for Terry to get his header in. |
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Post by DC1863 on Dec 23, 2014 6:20:58 GMT
Leave him in imo, looked decent tonight against Costa, only 22(?) massive potential.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 23, 2014 6:21:07 GMT
you must have red and white blinkers on - both goals were due to abyssmal central defending- where the hell was muniesa to be seen forthe first goal- what wa shawcross doing for the second- he showed his limitations as he did for england- HUTH is needed badly or this shower is going down- we cant defend and struggle to score bad combination Absolute horse shit of the highest grade. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 23, 2014 6:23:00 GMT
Leave him in imo, looked decent tonight against Costa, only 22(?) massive potential. Yeah I agree, I take him over Wilson any day. givw the lad a run it games and I think he will settle into it well with Ryan. |
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Post by johnnysoul60 on Dec 23, 2014 7:01:45 GMT
They did well for me but we need to be stronger defensively very poor from Cameron to allow Terry to bully him after just two minutes , need to get the balance right somehow hard to imagine someone like Huth letting that happen
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Post by Davef on Dec 23, 2014 8:38:20 GMT
They did well for me but we need to be stronger defensively very poor from Cameron to allow Terry to bully him after just two minutes , need to get the balance right somehow hard to imagine someone like Huth letting that happen Terry scored a virtually identical goal against us in the FA Cup a few seasons ago with Huth at the heart of our defence. |
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Post by eriksson74 on Dec 23, 2014 8:56:09 GMT
Ryan and Muni is one that should get some more game time for sure, it has the looks of a decent partnership. Muni brings a calmness and a degree of composure on the ball which I like and with it the ability to break quickly as a team with his passing.
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Post by adamsson on Dec 23, 2014 9:02:41 GMT
They did well for me but we need to be stronger defensively very poor from Cameron to allow Terry to bully him after just two minutes , need to get the balance right somehow hard to imagine someone like Huth letting that happen Terry scored a virtually identical goal against us in the FA Cup a few seasons ago with Huth at the heart of our defence. Thing is Terry is very good at winning headers from corners and scoring goals that is why he has played for so long at the top level and scored so many goals |
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Post by 2004 on Dec 26, 2014 20:36:14 GMT
Looked good again today
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Post by Trouserdog on Dec 26, 2014 20:39:07 GMT
I was dead against playing Muniesa as a centre-back due to his size, but I've been impressed with him there.
Much better in the middle than at left-back. He just seems so much more 'switched on' than Wilson does.
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Post by houstonsteve on Dec 26, 2014 20:46:06 GMT
Muni didn't give Lukaku a sniff today. Very impressive.
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Post by coates on Dec 26, 2014 20:48:34 GMT
it just shows you don't have be the biggest person to play cb, smalling is 6ft4 clearly doesn't help everyone.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Dec 26, 2014 20:51:59 GMT
I think they could be our centre backs for the next 5 years. Muni is just so impressive and compliments Shawcross massively.
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Post by Gary Hackett on Dec 26, 2014 21:08:12 GMT
I was dead against playing Muniesa as a centre-back due to his size, but I've been impressed with him there. Much better in the middle than at left-back. He just seems so much more 'switched on' than Wilson does. My thoughts exactly, I didn't think he'd make a Premier League centre back in a million years but its definitely his position, he's far better than Wilson and I think he'll make that position his own now. |
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Post by davejohnno1 on Dec 26, 2014 21:10:26 GMT
I think they could be our centre backs for the next 5 years. Muni is just so impressive and compliments Shawcross massively. I'm surprised it's taken so long for them to have become the favoured pairing in the absence of Huth in all honesty. Stoke fans, for the most part, are absolute idiots though and many wouldn't know a decent footballer if one walked up to them and poked them in the eye. Muniesa's talents are there for all to see. His leap makes up for any perceived lack of size and he tackles like a tank. Throw in the fact that he's obviously a superb footballer who has been schooled properly, and he has everything you need to be a superb centre half in modern day football. One other thing as well, whilst commenting on Muniesa...Is Barkley not the epitome of everything wrong with English football. Lauded as a modern day Paul Gascoigne despite doing absolutely nothing of any note on a consistent basis, he played in a similar role to Bojan. Bojan is probably 5-10 players away from being in the Spanish squad in that position yet on the evidence of today's performance he is an infinitely superior footballer. Better balance, better technique, equally difficult to dispossess if not more so, and certainly more of a goal threat and more creative. Bojan cost 328k or thereabouts. Barkley is allegedly worth 30m. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 26, 2014 21:12:09 GMT
I think they could be our centre backs for the next 5 years. Muni is just so impressive and compliments Shawcross massively. I'm surprised it's taken so long for them to have become the favoured pairing in the absence of Huth in all honesty. Stoke fans, for the most part, are absolute idiots though and many wouldn't know a decent footballer if one walked up to them and poked them in the eye. Muniesa's talents are there for all to see. His leap makes up for any perceived lack of size and he tackles like a tank. Throw in the fact that he's obviously a superb footballer who has been schooled properly, and he has everything you need to be a superb centre half in modern day football. One other thing as well, whilst commenting on Muniesa...Is Barkley not the epitome of everything wrong with English football. Lauded as a modern day Paul Gascoigne despite doing absolutely nothing of any note on a consistent basis, he played in a similar role to Bojan. Bojan is probably 5-10 players away from being in the Spanish squad in that position yet on the evidence of today's performance he is an infinitely superior footballer. Better balance, better technique, equally difficult to dispossess if not more so, and certainly more of a goal threat and more creative. Bojan cost 328k or thereabouts. Barkley is allegedly worth 30m. 328k? Seriously? |
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