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Post by Deleted on Dec 22, 2014 23:02:26 GMT
By far the best team I've seen for a good while at The Brit. I wouldn't be too despondent with being second best against a very good display from an excellent side.
The positives: -
* Ryan Shawcross - an absolutely first class performance at the back. His duel with Costa was a joy to watch. I think he actually won every single header he went for. He had a proper good battle with a centre forward who has given a torrid time to many other defenders in the league. You could tell he (Costa) didn't enjoy his outing today!
* Bojan - different gravy in the middle of our front 3. Different class this lad. Very promising display again.
Negatives
* Bardsley seemed out of his depth. Poor distribution and a shocking challenge on Hazard (although that did rile the crowd into the loudest we've been for a few years so perhaps, ironically, a tad of credit for that hatchet of a challenge.)
* Diouf's first touch is absolutely woeful. More and more concerned with him by the day. I was giving him credit not too long ago for his pace and power bringing a different dimension to our play but he looks less like a footballer with every passing performance.
Overall, outplayed and outsmarted by a better team. We've got to dust ourselves down and go again at Goodison.
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Post by march4 on Dec 22, 2014 23:03:47 GMT
By far the best team I've seen for a good while at The Brit. I wouldn't be too despondent with being second best against a very good display from an excellent side. The positives: - * Ryan Shawcross - an absolutely first class performance at the back. His duel with Costa was oa joy to watch. I think he actually won every single header he went for. He had a proper good battle with a centre forward who has given a torrid time to many other defenders in the league. You could tell he (Costa) didn't enjoy his outing today! * Bojan - different gravy in the middle of our front 3. Different class this lad. Very promising display again. Negatives * Bardsley seemed out of his depth. Poor distribution and a shocking challenge on Hazard (although that did rile the crowd into the loudest we've been for a few years so perhaps, ironically, a tad of credit for tthat hatchet of a challenge.) * Diouf's first touch is absolutely woeful. More and more concerned with him by the day. I was giving him credit not too long ago for his pace and power bringing a different dimension to our play but he looks less like a footballer with every passing performance. Overall, outplayed and outsmarted by a better team. We've got to dust ourselves down and go again at Goodison. Indeed they will. Reminded me of the Liverpool machine of the 1970's. Matic put in the best performance against us since Scholes all those years ago. |
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Post by Beertricks Potter on Dec 22, 2014 23:06:57 GMT
No complaints from me for tonights result. I think they're the most confident team I have ever seen. If we had sneaked a goal tonight (Big IF!), they looked well capable of stepping up and getting another. we let ourselves down with sloppy passing but they were far superior.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 22, 2014 23:07:01 GMT
agree. Diouf sadly is not going to be good enough, He has no technical ability at all. We need big investment in a central striker, winger and centre back. Maybe a right back too given bardsleys recent performances
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Post by Deleted on Dec 22, 2014 23:09:15 GMT
By far the best team I've seen for a good while at The Brit. I wouldn't be too despondent with being second best against a very good display from an excellent side. The positives: - * Ryan Shawcross - an absolutely first class performance at the back. His duel with Costa was a joy to watch. I think he actually won every single header he went for. He had a proper good battle with a centre forward who has given a torrid time to many other defenders in the league. You could tell he (Costa) didn't enjoy his outing today! * Bojan - different gravy in the middle of our front 3. Different class this lad. Very promising display again. Negatives * Bardsley seemed out of his depth. Poor distribution and a shocking challenge on Hazard (although that did rile the crowd into the loudest we've been for a few years so perhaps, ironically, a tad of credit for that hatchet of a challenge.) * Diouf's first touch is absolutely woeful. More and more concerned with him by the day. I was giving him credit not too long ago for his pace and power bringing a different dimension to our play but he looks less like a footballer with every passing performance. Overall, outplayed and outsmarted by a better team. We've got to dust ourselves down and go again at Goodison. Agreed 100% with all that |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 22, 2014 23:09:16 GMT
No complaints from me for tonights result. I think they're the most confident team I have ever seen. If we had sneaked a goal tonight (Big IF!), they looked well capable of stepping up and getting another. we let ourselves down with sloppy passing but they were far superior. don't agree with that. heard all the usual clichés in the commentary but the early goal we gave away made it the perfect scenario for the type of players they have. They are definitely vulnerable. We also played into their hands with crouch up front - the sort of player terry loves to play against |
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Post by Olgrligm on Dec 22, 2014 23:09:55 GMT
They won't just win it, they'll win it by a mile.
I wonder if they're the best team to play at The Brit. Ferguson's Man Utd teams usually brushed us aside with similar efficiency, I suppose.
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Post by robwahlmann on Dec 22, 2014 23:11:18 GMT
I guess they will because they are able to play in such a cynical way when needed. This is a big difference to for instance Arsenal that only seem able to play in one way.
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Post by sportsman on Dec 22, 2014 23:13:15 GMT
Think Diouf is as much a confidence thing. When you're cinfidence is up you suddenly become a great striker.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 22, 2014 23:15:32 GMT
They won't just win it, they'll win it by a mile. I wonder if they're the best team to play at The Brit. Ferguson's Man Utd teams usually brushed us aside with similar efficiency, I suppose. Agreed mate, up there with Man Utd in their prime. Very good side. |
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Post by Beertricks Potter on Dec 22, 2014 23:15:48 GMT
agree. Diouf sadly is not going to be good enough, He has no technical ability at all. We need big investment in a central striker, winger and centre back. Maybe a right back too given bardsleys recent performances You may not agree with me mate but I agree with this. I've quite liked diouf for his work rate but he looked 2nd rate tonight, the ball just bounces off him. agree too with the signings we need. we have wingers to come back from injury but we defo need a another solid centre half. muniesa is a very accomplished player, someone with his ability and a foot taller, with strength would be ideal. and worth about 25 million :-) |
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Post by 2004 on Dec 22, 2014 23:17:00 GMT
100% Chelsea will walk this league
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Post by Gods on Dec 22, 2014 23:18:22 GMT
Last 2 away fixtures before this one Chelsea lost 2-1 to Newcastle and drew 0-0 with Sunderland, just saying.
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Post by chuckrocky on Dec 22, 2014 23:22:18 GMT
They were very efficient but I was expecting more from them. I think that had more to do with how lame we were going forward, we gave them very little to think about and they never had to get out of second gear after scoring so early. Defensively they were solid and extremely well organised but considering the talent they have they were nowt special going forward.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 22, 2014 23:28:30 GMT
Last 2 away fixtures before this one Chelsea lost 2-1 to Newcastle and drew 0-0 with Sunderland, just saying. They're allowed to lose a game every 20 or so I suppose! |
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Post by Gods on Dec 22, 2014 23:32:34 GMT
Last 2 away fixtures before this one Chelsea lost 2-1 to Newcastle and drew 0-0 with Sunderland, just saying. They're allowed to lose a game every 20 or so I suppose! yeah except to read this thread you would conclude we never had an earthly and yet 2 clubs in Newcastle and Sunderland who I guess we would like to think we are on a par helped themselves to 4 points between them on Chelsea's last 2 trips on the road. Not saying we should have got anything out of the game only that we could. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 22, 2014 23:34:25 GMT
They're allowed to lose a game every 20 or so I suppose! yeah except to read this thread you would conclude we never had an earthly and yet 2 clubs in Newcastle and Sunderland who I guess we would like to think we are on a par helped themselves to 4 points between them on Chelsea's last 2 trips on the road. Not saying we should have got anything out of the game only that we could. For me it's a two horse race for the title, and we've played them both. Chelsea were infinitely better than Man City. |
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Post by cobhamstokey on Dec 22, 2014 23:57:01 GMT
agree. Diouf sadly is not going to be good enough, He has no technical ability at all. We need big investment in a central striker, winger and centre back. Maybe a right back too given bardsleys recent performances You may not agree with me mate but I agree with this. I've quite liked diouf for his work rate but he looked 2nd rate tonight, the ball just bounces off him. agree too with the signings we need. we have wingers to come back from injury but we defo need a another solid centre half. muniesa is a very accomplished player, someone with his ability and a foot taller, with strength would be ideal. and worth about 25 million :-) Spot on. The way MH wants us to play we have to have pace. Sadly injuries to Odom and Moses have derailed us. A front 4 of Odom, Bojan, Moses and Diouf I think was MHs first choice and I'm sure would cause lots of problems. Sadly Walters, Bojan, Arno and Crouch just doesn't scare defences. |
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Post by Sergeant Muttley on Dec 23, 2014 0:01:42 GMT
They just seem to cruise games and tonight rarely got out of 2nd gear.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Dec 23, 2014 0:05:03 GMT
They are a really good side who I think weren't 'on it' for long periods tonight but we had too many players not on song tonight to take advantage.
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Post by stokesaint1 on Dec 23, 2014 1:05:51 GMT
100% Chelsea will walk this league I reckon if Hughes had the money to spend that they have, then we'd probably be in with a good shout to win the league. They and City and United before them have bought their league titles. They paid more per player, with just the odd homegrown, than we paid for our whole team and salary wise they're on different planets. My beef won't go away, those with the big money ( Arsenal, Man City, Man Utd, Chelsea, Liverpool, Spurs) are always going to out perform (with odd exceptions) and win the league and fill 6 of the top 7 or 8 positions. We need spend/salary caps to ever have a level playing field. That said, I thought Chelsea were quality, albeit they moan like babies at every opportunity and any excuse. |
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Post by StokieBoy31 on Dec 23, 2014 1:27:41 GMT
agree. Diouf sadly is not going to be good enough, He has no technical ability at all. We need big investment in a central striker, winger and centre back. Maybe a right back too given bardsleys recent performances Said it last week at Palace he's another Jerome  |
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Post by tazi on Dec 23, 2014 1:36:55 GMT
They are a really good side who I think weren't 'on it' for long periods tonight but we had too many players not on song tonight to take advantage. Spot on. |
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Post by Gods on Dec 23, 2014 1:50:02 GMT
agree. Diouf sadly is not going to be good enough, He has no technical ability at all. We need big investment in a central striker, winger and centre back. Maybe a right back too given bardsleys recent performances Said it last week at Palace he's another Jerome I hope not but suspect so, is he not our highest paid player? Either way we have him for 4 long years so I guess we'd better get used to him. |
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Post by tazi on Dec 23, 2014 1:53:47 GMT
Said it last week at Palace he's another Jerome I hope not but suspect so, is he not our highest paid player? Either way we have him for 4 long years so I guess we'd better get used to him. On the bright side I suppose it's nowhere near £100M spunked. Edit - oh and err £55K a week supposedly as was posted on here. |
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Post by JoeinOz on Dec 23, 2014 2:47:19 GMT
It would take a remarkable turn of events for Chelsea not to win the league.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 23, 2014 5:42:45 GMT
When they are up against it, the likes of Mourinho and Terry not only stand up, not only take it on the chin but often come out on top. They hold no fear of coming to Stoke at all and after two poor results for them would be desperate to get back on track.
You look at the squad they have, even the bench, and even if they're only at 75%, we've got to be right on top form; and a goal after just 2 minutes pretty much sets them up for the whole game.
It's also exactly the reason why Arsenal won't come close to winning the title with their current regime.
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Post by werrington on Dec 23, 2014 7:31:45 GMT
They just seem to cruise games and tonight rarely got out of 2nd gear. I saw it you saw and every pundit in the media networks ie radio, TV and written press say how good and professional they were but one hack on here thinks they were average mate Oh well eh |
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Post by Kjones9 on Dec 23, 2014 8:25:26 GMT
Last 2 away fixtures before this one Chelsea lost 2-1 to Newcastle and drew 0-0 with Sunderland, just saying. Still dripping it gods? Keep up the 'good' work. |
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Post by Kjones9 on Dec 23, 2014 8:28:47 GMT
Very, very good team.
The only disappointment with them Is the constant surrounding of the ref. How Terry doesn't get booked for running 60 yards to complain to the ref every time is beyond me .
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