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Post by Sergeant Muttley on Dec 19, 2014 16:53:25 GMT
What a sad day for their fans and football.Couldnt imagine not having Stoke City
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Post by Northy on Dec 19, 2014 16:55:47 GMT
A shame, I thought they'd done the necessary to start playing again only a couple of weeks ago.
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Post by maninasuitcase on Dec 19, 2014 17:00:22 GMT
A sad day for the fans.
No doubt the ground will be demolished now to make way for the new town centre redevelopment that's happening.
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Post by Sergeant Muttley on Dec 19, 2014 17:02:54 GMT
Still remember that Ronnie Radford goal against Newcastle in the FA Cup which gets played every year on the mud bath of a pitch
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Post by crouchie on Dec 19, 2014 17:03:53 GMT
any idea how much they were in debt
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Post by estrangedsonoffaye on Dec 19, 2014 17:04:08 GMT
Sad day whenever a football club goes under.  |
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Post by estrangedsonoffaye on Dec 19, 2014 17:11:30 GMT
any idea how much they were in debt £148,000. Rooney's wage for Monday, Tuesday and Wednesday. |
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Post by mrcoke on Dec 19, 2014 17:14:27 GMT
any idea how much they were in debt Surprisingly small at £1m to £1.5m estimated. But increasing at £20,000 per month. Goes to show the old adage, if you owe the bank a £1000, you've got a problem; but if you owe the bank £1million, it's the bank that has got the problem. |
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Post by estrangedsonoffaye on Dec 19, 2014 17:14:57 GMT
any idea how much they were in debt £148,000. Rooney's wage for Monday, Tuesday and Wednesday. Sorry this figure was for the end of last season. Still relative peanuts. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2014 17:25:59 GMT
All Premier league players should put 1% of their wages into a fund to help non league teams that are struggling financially.
The players wouldn't even notice the difference but it would save clubs like Hereford
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Dec 19, 2014 17:32:17 GMT
All Premier league players should put 1% of their wages into a fund to help non league teams that are struggling financially. The players wouldn't even notice the difference but it would save clubs like Hereford The problem is if they are losing £20k per week then the problem is never ending until they find a significant new source of income. |
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Post by Sergeant Muttley on Dec 19, 2014 17:42:31 GMT
The bloke that was going to save them with his investment turned up late to the court.£116,000 was the amount.
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Post by NG4POTTERS on Dec 19, 2014 21:46:41 GMT
The MP for Hereford and South Herefordshire called the move "a victory".
Jesse Norman said it was "a bittersweet moment, but the fact of the matter is that after months and months of delay we have now won though".
"I think it is the best Christmas present we could ever have wanted and this is the beginning of something very significant and good and long-term and new in football for Herefordshire".
Bit of a crass statement to make when the heart and soul of a couple of thousand people has been ripped out. Big shame. And the farce of the investor being 'stuck in traffic' and late to the court.
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Post by robstokie on Dec 19, 2014 22:09:47 GMT
The MP for Hereford and South Herefordshire called the move "a victory". Jesse Norman said it was "a bittersweet moment, but the fact of the matter is that after months and months of delay we have now won though". "I think it is the best Christmas present we could ever have wanted and this is the beginning of something very significant and good and long-term and new in football for Herefordshire". Bit of a crass statement to make when the heart and soul of a couple of thousand people has been ripped out. Big shame. And the farce of the investor being 'stuck in traffic' and late to the court. to be fair, a lot of the Hereford fans were against the board and whatnot, so for them, its a victory. I think they are looking to reform somewhere further down the pyramid as a phoenix club (think AFC Wimbledon, Aldershot Town and Newport County) |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2014 22:45:59 GMT
Went to a pre season friendly there in 2000 and something, got so pissed that we walked into the home end by accident before being physically ejected by the stewards into the away end. Then missed the last train home and slept on a bench. Good times  Good little set up there, sad to see them fold but hopefully the fans will set up a new Hereford and get them back on track..... |
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Post by bunnyscfc on Dec 19, 2014 23:04:54 GMT
great town. Good club.
A joke if they fold with the money sloshing about in our game.
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Post by followyoudown on Dec 19, 2014 23:08:28 GMT
The MP for Hereford and South Herefordshire called the move "a victory". Jesse Norman said it was "a bittersweet moment, but the fact of the matter is that after months and months of delay we have now won though". "I think it is the best Christmas present we could ever have wanted and this is the beginning of something very significant and good and long-term and new in football for Herefordshire". Bit of a crass statement to make when the heart and soul of a couple of thousand people has been ripped out. Big shame. And the farce of the investor being 'stuck in traffic' and late to the court. to be fair, a lot of the Hereford fans were against the board and whatnot, so for them, its a victory. I think they are looking to reform somewhere further down the pyramid as a phoenix club (think AFC Wimbledon, Aldershot Town and Newport County) You're right, David Conn has written a lot of stuff on Hereford. www.theguardian.com/football/2014/nov/29/hereford-united-new-owners-mistrusting-supporters |
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Post by bolders on Dec 20, 2014 2:44:23 GMT
great town. Good club. A joke if they fold with the money sloshing about in our game. Great Town? i lived there for 2 years there is fook all there. went several home games there for something to do and the crowds were wank but go in to town and it was full of glory hunting scum fans. had to watch our semi final win in a pub there and got shouted at by some plastic man u fans to b quiet. its the fault of the glory hunting scum that sends these clubs in to administration. |
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Post by werrington on Dec 20, 2014 6:51:35 GMT
any idea how much they were in debt £148,000. Rooney's wage for Monday, Tuesday and Wednesday. Or some of the money Stoke will recieve for the live showing of Monday nights game |
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Post by BristolMick on Dec 20, 2014 7:35:43 GMT
The MP for Hereford and South Herefordshire called the move "a victory". Jesse Norman said it was "a bittersweet moment, but the fact of the matter is that after months and months of delay we have now won though". "I think it is the best Christmas present we could ever have wanted and this is the beginning of something very significant and good and long-term and new in football for Herefordshire". Bit of a crass statement to make when the heart and soul of a couple of thousand people has been ripped out. Big shame. And the farce of the investor being 'stuck in traffic' and late to the court. I have a soft spot for Hereford and have been following this sorry saga since the summer when the previous chairman sold the club to a couple of Cockney Barrow Boys, with criminal records, one of whom promptly failed the fit and proper test. The first thing they did was fail to pay a bond that they promised they would pay and Hereford were relegated out of the Conference. From that point on they had the fans against them and relationship between the board and the fans become untenable as promise after promise was broken with the suspicion being that the barrow boys plan all along was to effectively steal the land the ground was built on and develop it.. However Hereford council saw them for what they were and refused to assign the leases to them. This latest excuse about the owner being stuck in traffic to try and get a further adjournment is a last desperate action by a dishonest man whose excuses over the last few months are akin to those offered by a small child in order to try and deflect blame. If you want to know what type of people it was running Hereford, after the news broke yesterday they trashed the ground and nicked the tellys! Hereford United 1939 now is no more, but a new club can now be born and will play at Edgar St next season with the full support of the council and the fans. Good luck to them. BM |
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Post by 2004 on Dec 20, 2014 9:18:44 GMT
Shame for their fans. I couldn't imagine this happening to Stoke.
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Post by NG4POTTERS on Dec 20, 2014 10:38:21 GMT
The MP for Hereford and South Herefordshire called the move "a victory". Jesse Norman said it was "a bittersweet moment, but the fact of the matter is that after months and months of delay we have now won though". "I think it is the best Christmas present we could ever have wanted and this is the beginning of something very significant and good and long-term and new in football for Herefordshire". Bit of a crass statement to make when the heart and soul of a couple of thousand people has been ripped out. Big shame. And the farce of the investor being 'stuck in traffic' and late to the court. I have a soft spot for Hereford and have been following this sorry saga since the summer when the previous chairman sold the club to a couple of Cockney Barrow Boys, with criminal records, one of whom promptly failed the fit and proper test. The first thing they did was fail to pay a bond that they promised they would pay and Hereford were relegated out of the Conference. From that point on they had the fans against them and relationship between the board and the fans become untenable as promise after promise was broken with the suspicion being that the barrow boys plan all along was to effectively steal the land the ground was built on and develop it.. However Hereford council saw them for what they were and refused to assign the leases to them. This latest excuse about the owner being stuck in traffic to try and get a further adjournment is a last desperate action by a dishonest man whose excuses over the last few months are akin to those offered by a small child in order to try and deflect blame. If you want to know what type of people it was running Hereford, after the news broke yesterday they trashed the ground and nicked the tellys! Hereford United 1939 now is no more, but a new club can now be born and will play at Edgar St next season with the full support of the council and the fans. Good luck to them. BM Got ya mate. Obviously i didn't really know the ins and outs of it all, when you put it like that then yeah, it probably was a victory. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 20, 2014 11:28:22 GMT
The MP for Hereford and South Herefordshire called the move "a victory". Jesse Norman said it was "a bittersweet moment, but the fact of the matter is that after months and months of delay we have now won though". "I think it is the best Christmas present we could ever have wanted and this is the beginning of something very significant and good and long-term and new in football for Herefordshire". Bit of a crass statement to make when the heart and soul of a couple of thousand people has been ripped out. Big shame. And the farce of the investor being 'stuck in traffic' and late to the court. Sad fact is though that its business, and no matter what emotional connection people have to these things, if they can't carry on and pay the bills then thats what happens. If its true that the investor was 'stuck in traffic', sorry but thats an absolutely fucking ridiculous situation. If it was so important, and he apparently had evidence of £1M of investment (despite not being able to provide any form of documentation for it whatsoever); then surely a £50 hotel overnight near to the court just incase anything unforeseen happened on the road is a very wise thing to do? The 10th time he'd been called to appear in court, yet the single most important time he is needed and he's 'stuck in traffic'. But, its done with now, and sometimes, like a dear old relative who is struggling day to day, it can be better to end the misery and let everybody move on. I hope that they can bring something together out of this, as a new team and a new start. |
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Post by stokietony on Dec 20, 2014 11:39:56 GMT
Grass Roots....Nobody Actually Gives a Shite :-(
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Post by Deleted on Dec 20, 2014 11:46:54 GMT
All Premier league players should put 1% of their wages into a fund to help non league teams that are struggling financially. The players wouldn't even notice the difference but it would save clubs like Hereford Directors will come along, know there is a bail out fund, and rely on it. It will prevent a club standing on its own two feet. Its a shame, but Hereford need to find a level that suits their finances, start again, as many other clubs have. Vale will ultimately have to do this at some stage, and I would be pissed off if money was thrown at them to maintain them in a league system when another conference club, say, could replace them in the league (who may have managed their finances better), but would be deprived of replacing them because of financial subsidies. In a similar way, we all have already done something like this for the benefit of one football club. A percentage of our tax money has been set aside to purchase a ground, then this has been handed over to West Ham to move into, benefiting them, while depriving Stoke City of any similar benefit. Two directors then came along for the sole purpose of getting their hands on this and will make millions out of it. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 20, 2014 13:14:57 GMT
All Premier league players should put 1% of their wages into a fund to help non league teams that are struggling financially. The players wouldn't even notice the difference but it would save clubs like Hereford Directors will come along, know there is a bail out fund, and rely on it. It will prevent a club standing on its own two feet. Its a shame, but Hereford need to find a level that suits their finances, start again, as many other clubs have. Vale will ultimately have to do this at some stage, and I would be pissed off if money was thrown at them to maintain them in a league system when another conference club, say, could replace them in the league (who may have managed their finances better), but would be deprived of replacing them because of financial subsidies. In a similar way, we all have already done something like this for the benefit of one football club. A percentage of our tax money has been set aside to purchase a ground, then this has been handed over to West Ham to move into, benefiting them, while depriving Stoke City of any similar benefit. Two directors then came along for the sole purpose of getting their hands on this and will make millions out of it. You're forgetting that our own council chipped in to fund the Brit and anyway what has the Olympic Stadium got to do with non league clubs going to the wall ? |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 20, 2014 14:00:29 GMT
Directors will come along, know there is a bail out fund, and rely on it. It will prevent a club standing on its own two feet. Its a shame, but Hereford need to find a level that suits their finances, start again, as many other clubs have. Vale will ultimately have to do this at some stage, and I would be pissed off if money was thrown at them to maintain them in a league system when another conference club, say, could replace them in the league (who may have managed their finances better), but would be deprived of replacing them because of financial subsidies. In a similar way, we all have already done something like this for the benefit of one football club. A percentage of our tax money has been set aside to purchase a ground, then this has been handed over to West Ham to move into, benefiting them, while depriving Stoke City of any similar benefit. Two directors then came along for the sole purpose of getting their hands on this and will make millions out of it. You're forgetting that our own council chipped in to fund the Brit and anyway what has the Olympic Stadium got to do with non league clubs going to the wall ? No, I am not forgetting about what happened with the Britannia, that was something the council chose to do. They didn't have to. If we would have folded as a club, they would have retained rights to their investment? This was not a "bailout". The same as I am not forgetting about the help the Vale have had from our own council, and many other benefactors (only to end up in the same shit state year after year...) My point about West Ham is that when one club receives funds or support, there are always other that don't get it. A pool of "community money", however it is collected, will always be open to abuse/challenge from others. Why should Hereford get the funds..when perfectly well run clubs could take their place? Im not having a dig at Hereford, its a crap situation for them, my point is that when you help one club you potentially hold back the progress of another. One gets an advantage another does not get. Chester went to the wall in 2010, but have now reformed, and may be better for it, and ironically should have been relegated in 2013/2014, but were reprieved because of the financial problems at Hereford. Should Hereford have been "bailed out" by this proposed fund....Chester, a club now run very efficiently by the supporters would then have been relegated. Fair? I don't think so. |
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Post by choppercherry on Dec 20, 2014 15:56:48 GMT
Was forced to live there for 6 years and hated the place (long story) but the only decent thing was the football ground. Shame for them.
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