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Post by agingerstokie on Dec 18, 2014 7:51:37 GMT
And because he's classed as a professional contract they can't get a loan!
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Dec 18, 2014 7:53:55 GMT
It is a bit of a daft rule anyway. I don't see how the game would suffer if clubs could loan a keeper at any time.
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Post by haway on Dec 18, 2014 9:04:07 GMT
And because he's classed as a professional contract they can't get a loan! That's not the worst part either. They have Woodman & Darlow as 'fit' senior keepers, despite Darlow being on loan. However, them bastards are too stupid to put a recall clause in the loan agreement for Darlow! Trying to get a PL emergency loan just because Alnwick is rubbish in for the derby is disgraceful, should be docked points |
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Post by RAF on Dec 18, 2014 9:10:44 GMT
It is a bit of a daft rule anyway. I don't see how the game would suffer if clubs could loan a keeper at any time. Seriously? It's a case of fucking tough shit for me. Put one of your centre halves in nets suck it up. H |
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Post by dadofsam on Dec 18, 2014 10:12:07 GMT
Good
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Post by 2004 on Dec 18, 2014 11:20:56 GMT
Tough shit
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Post by Ryan_Shawjosh on Dec 18, 2014 11:21:46 GMT
It is a bit of a daft rule anyway. I don't see how the game would suffer if clubs could loan a keeper at any time. I can definitely see the sense in it. If you have a goalkeeper on a professional contract at the club, then why should you be allowed to loan another in? You're right that the game probably wouldn't suffer that much but, if you offer a player a professional contract, you should then see him as being able enough to stand in, if required. |
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Post by Bojan Mackey on Dec 18, 2014 11:22:58 GMT
Stick Mike Ashley in goal, you'll need the shooting accuracy of a laser pointer to find a gap between that hulking fat cunters folds.
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Dec 18, 2014 11:34:30 GMT
It is a bit of a daft rule anyway. I don't see how the game would suffer if clubs could loan a keeper at any time. I can definitely see the sense in it. If you have a goalkeeper on a professional contract at the club, then why should you be allowed to loan another in? You're right that the game probably wouldn't suffer that much but, if you offer a player a professional contract, you should then see him as being able enough to stand in, if required. That's one way of looking at it I suppose. But I bet Hughes would be horrified at the thought of some of our U21 squad being asked to play for the first team for more than the occasional appearance to cover injury. In a 25 man first team squad many of the defenders will be interchangeable and the same for the midfielders and attackers so you'd rarely need to dip into the under 21 squad to cover for injury unless a lot of players got injured. But keepers are rather different - no club is going to have more than three keepers in their first team squad and if they get injured any U21 replacement might be light years away from being able to do a job for the first team. I think I am right in saying that ALL players between 18/19 and 21 will be on professional contracts but they might be well short of being able to fill in for weeks in the first team - especially in a specialist position like keeper. I'd be interested to hear what Mark Wolstanton has to say on the subject - as, unlike most of us, he has a son who is a keeper and who was once at Stoke's academy. |
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Post by Ryan_Shawjosh on Dec 18, 2014 11:51:33 GMT
I can definitely see the sense in it. If you have a goalkeeper on a professional contract at the club, then why should you be allowed to loan another in? You're right that the game probably wouldn't suffer that much but, if you offer a player a professional contract, you should then see him as being able enough to stand in, if required. That's one way of looking at it I suppose. But I bet Hughes would be horrified at the thought of some of our U21 squad being asked to play for the first team for more than the occasional appearance to cover injury. In a 25 man first team squad many of the defenders will be interchangeable and the same for the midfielders and attackers so you'd rarely need to dip into the under 21 squad to cover for injury unless a lot of players got injured. But keepers are rather different - no club is going to have more than three keepers in their first team squad and if they get injured any U21 replacement might be light years away from being able to do a job for the first team. I think I am right in saying that ALL players between 18/19 and 21 will be on professional contracts but they might be well short of being able to fill in for weeks in the first team - especially in a specialist position like keeper. I'd be interested to hear what Mark Wolstanton has to say on the subject - as, unlike most of us, he has a son who is a keeper and who was once at Stoke's academy. I agree with a lot of this post. The only problem I can see is when the FA is given a request for an emergency loan for a keeper, to be able to establish whether or not it should be allowed would have to be largely based on an opinion on whether this fourth choice for Newcastle (for example) is good enough or not. Who's to say he is or isn't apart from the club requesting the loan? At least if you do it based on professional contracts, you already have it set that the club sees him as being adequate to be involved. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2014 12:09:24 GMT
Man City were able to take out an emergency loan for a keeper in 2010 when their first two keepers were out injured and they were unable to recall Joe Hart from his loan at Birmingham.
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Post by jimmygscfc on Dec 18, 2014 12:26:25 GMT
But did they have a fourth keeper on a pro contract?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2014 12:35:39 GMT
But did they have a fourth keeper on a pro contract? They had the Faroe Islands' keeper no less - Gunnar Nielsen. And yes, I did have to look it up. |
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Post by followyoudown on Dec 18, 2014 14:11:19 GMT
Play the kid or ask him to watch Escape to Victory  Lets be honest it's Sunderland they are playing, his gran could probably keep them out. |
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Post by agingerstokie on Dec 18, 2014 14:43:20 GMT
Play the kid or ask him to watch Escape to Victory Lets be honest it's Sunderland they are playing, his gran could probably keep them out. Well we fucking couldn't |
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Post by Ryan_Shawjosh on Dec 18, 2014 15:03:21 GMT
But did they have a fourth keeper on a pro contract? They had the Faroe Islands' keeper no less - Gunnar Nielsen. And yes, I did have to look it up. The Man City case puts a lot more doubt into the rule. Man City based their argument on the fact that they wouldn't have cover for Nielsen so if Newcastle don't have cover for their fourth choice, then why can't they get permission? I don't think they should be able to but, if they're going to be consistent, then surely they should be able to? Unless I'm missing something. |
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Post by haway on Dec 18, 2014 17:02:33 GMT
Play the kid or ask him to watch Escape to Victory Lets be honest it's Sunderland they are playing, his gran could probably keep them out. I'm sure they thought that the last two times we played there, we won 3-0 both times... |
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Post by BuzzB on Dec 18, 2014 22:02:07 GMT
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Lets be honest it's Sunderland they are playing, his gran could probably keep them out. 
