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Post by britsabroad on Dec 19, 2014 2:51:18 GMT
Did the 6.05 run ok? If so i dont see the problem. Virgin can do what it wants with its spare trains. Nothing to do with privatisation whatsoever.
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Post by Lesalanos on Dec 19, 2014 7:49:43 GMT
The 6.05 did indeed run, the issue for the Arsenal fans that I spoke with was that the club could charter a train for just the players but not the fans. That they could buy first class tickets but not use the lounge.
The issue for me is that virgin can find a spare train to transport the Arsenal team, but could not add extra capacity for the trains heading north and south for the clothes show live, Birmingham German market, the stoke and man city games, Bournemouth at wolves etc.
I had to stand between the two carriages on the way up. I did get a seat on the way back.
Bottom line on this is that the commuting public have to make do on paying more for overcrowded trains, yet virgin can manage to find rolling stock to transport underperforming primadonnas cosseted from their fans in a 20% occupied train.
I await OS's justification into the privatization of railways and the benefits received by the die hard traveling public.
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Post by britsabroad on Dec 19, 2014 10:21:53 GMT
The 6.05 did indeed run, the issue for the Arsenal fans that I spoke with was that the club could charter a train for just the players but not the fans. That they could buy first class tickets but not use the lounge. The issue for me is that virgin can find a spare train to transport the Arsenal team, but could not add extra capacity for the trains heading north and south for the clothes show live, Birmingham German market, the stoke and man city games, Bournemouth at wolves etc. I had to stand between the two carriages on the way up. I did get a seat on the way back. Bottom line on this is that the commuting public have to make do on paying more for overcrowded trains, yet virgin can manage to find rolling stock to transport underperforming primadonnas cosseted from their fans in a 20% occupied train. I await OS's justification into the privatization of railways and the benefits received by the die hard traveling public. They can find a spare train for Arsenal because Arsenal paid for a spare train, and there was obviously a gap in the line schedule they could fit it into. Theyre not allowed to go running extra passenger services as and when they see fit either but charters are different. I get the gripes with Arsenal and how they treat their fans, but to blame it on privatisation is the usual rubbish that blights this site too often.
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Post by Lesalanos on Dec 19, 2014 10:34:22 GMT
Could they not find a spare train to cope with the additional seasonal demand. As I stand up on my Virgin cross country service I find it especially annoying that rolling stock can be found for football prima donnas.
Out of interest and as the wcml does run with a high utilisation could they get a train if the game was a Friday evening or Monday afternoon?
I would be happy with a privatised service if it truly offered the consumer a far better experience at costs commensurate with the investment.
The reality is that cramming customers in and maximising returns on sweating assets is a bone of contention. Other than Virgin whose really better off?
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Post by RAF on Dec 19, 2014 10:59:02 GMT
Could they not find a spare train to cope with the additional seasonal demand. As I stand up on my Virgin cross country service I find it especially annoying that rolling stock can be found for football prima donnas. Out of interest and as the wcml does run with a high utilisation could they get a train if the game was a Friday evening or Monday afternoon? I would be happy with a privatised service if it truly offered the consumer a far better experience at costs commensurate with the investment. The reality is that cramming customers in and maximising returns on sweating assets is a bone of contention. Other than Virgin whose really better off? Should have paid for First Class, skinflint! H ;)
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