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Post by laurencebunch1 on Dec 17, 2014 16:36:26 GMT
goo.gl/forms/ll7yeU2QKKThis survey is part of my dissertation research into Football and identity in England. I would really appreciate it if you could take the time to complete the survey, as it all helps my research. Cheers. P.S. I've been given permission by Sal to post the survey.
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Post by laurencebunch1 on Dec 17, 2014 16:50:45 GMT
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Post by superpej on Dec 17, 2014 17:03:47 GMT
Hi Laurencebunch1
I have completed your survey
I take it you are a person and this is not going straight to GCHQ.
Certainly not the worst survey on here but I just wondered which university had sanctioned this and what award the dissertation is for?
Hopefully there is some logic behind the clubs forums you have selected - otherwise the results will be frankly a bit meaningless.
regards
Superpej
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Post by laurencebunch1 on Dec 17, 2014 17:09:55 GMT
Hi Laurencebunch1 I have completed your survey I take it you are a person and this is not going straight to GCHQ. Certainly not the worst survey on here but I just wondered which university had sanctioned this and what award the dissertation is for? Hopefully there is some logic behind the clubs forums you have selected - otherwise the results will be frankly a bit meaningless. regards Superpej Hi, I am at Bath Uni and I am an undergraduate student. Though this is under my own initiative. I am selecting forums from clubs throughout the leagues. However, due to not every region (based upon the nine regions used in EU elections) having a club in every league from Premier league to the Conference Premier, I have been slightly limited in which regions and clubs I can survey. |
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Dec 17, 2014 17:11:43 GMT
Hi Laurencebunch1 I have completed your survey I take it you are a person and this is not going straight to GCHQ. Certainly not the worst survey on here but I just wondered which university had sanctioned this and what award the dissertation is for? Hopefully there is some logic behind the clubs forums you have selected - otherwise the results will be frankly a bit meaningless. regards Superpej I'm not sure I understand the logic behind doing what are essentially two different surveys (football support and habits and attitudes to politics and society) on the one survey form. I filled it in anyway apart from one question which I thought was ridiculous where I was only allowed to choose 3 priorities from a very log list of things which I regarded as important for Britain - I chose the "other" option on that one and said I thought the question was daft.  |
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Post by Malcolm Clarke on Dec 17, 2014 17:26:43 GMT
Hi Laurencebunch1 I have completed your survey I take it you are a person and this is not going straight to GCHQ. Certainly not the worst survey on here but I just wondered which university had sanctioned this and what award the dissertation is for? Hopefully there is some logic behind the clubs forums you have selected - otherwise the results will be frankly a bit meaningless. regards Superpej I'm not sure I understand the logic behind doing what are essentially two different surveys (football support and habits and attitudes to politics and society) on the one survey form. I filled it in anyway apart from one question which I thought was ridiculous where I was only allowed to choose 3 priorities from a very log list of things which I regarded as important for Britain - I chose the "other" option on that one and said I thought the question was daft. This type of question which forces you to prioritise is quite common in surveys (including those conducted by the Premier League), otherwise respondents like yourself ( and myself), John, will just tick loads, which doesn't reveal much. I found it very difficult to get down to three but did so. I assume the objective of linking the two areas is precisely to analyse the correlation between fans attitudes to their clubs and the national team and social and political views and attitudes, which is a potentially interesting area ( to me at least ! ). Good luck with it, Laurence. Thanks for giving a link to the results so far, which were interesting. At the risk of stating the obvious, respondents on message Boards are probably not representative of football supporters as a whole, but there's probably no other way of doing it within your resources. |
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Dec 17, 2014 17:39:43 GMT
I'm not sure I understand the logic behind doing what are essentially two different surveys (football support and habits and attitudes to politics and society) on the one survey form. I filled it in anyway apart from one question which I thought was ridiculous where I was only allowed to choose 3 priorities from a very log list of things which I regarded as important for Britain - I chose the "other" option on that one and said I thought the question was daft. ), otherwise respondents like yourself ( and myself), John, will just tick loads, which doesn't reveal much. I found it very difficult to get down to three but did so. I assume the objective of linking the two areas is precisely to analyse the correlation between fans attitudes to their clubs and the national team and social and political views and attitudes, which is a potentially interesting area ( to me at least ! ). Good luck with it, Laurence. Thanks for giving a link to the results so far, which were interesting. At the risk of stating the obvious, respondents on message Boards are probably not representative of football supporters as a whole, but there's probably no other way of doing it within your resources. Yes, I realise the reasoning, Malcolm. But, speaking purely personally, it would be better to allow respondents to that sort of question to prioritise as many options as they want but to rank them in order. For example a hypothetical respondent to the question in the survey who supports the concept of overseas aid and climate change is then forced to choose only one other option so he or she might have to choose between strong armed forces and counter terrorism and a strong police force which quite frankly is daft. Similarly how would you choose between a strong education system and a good health system if you only had one choice left - without one (either one) you won't get the other! |
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Post by laurencebunch1 on Dec 17, 2014 17:55:35 GMT
This type of question which forces you to prioritise is quite common in surveys (including those conducted by the Premier League), otherwise respondents like yourself ( and myself), John, will just tick loads, which doesn't reveal much. I found it very difficult to get down to three but did so. I assume the objective of linking the two areas is precisely to analyse the correlation between fans attitudes to their clubs and the national team and social and political views and attitudes, which is a potentially interesting area ( to me at least ! ). Good luck with it, Laurence. Thanks for giving a link to the results so far, which were interesting. At the risk of stating the obvious, respondents on message Boards are probably not representative of football supporters as a whole, but there's probably no other way of doing it within your resources. Yes, I realise the reasoning, Malcolm. But, speaking purely personally, it would be better to allow respondents to that sort of question to prioritise as many options as they want but to rank them in order. For example a hypothetical respondent to the question in the survey who supports the concept of overseas aid and climate change is then forced to choose only one other option so he or she might have to choose between strong armed forces and counter terrorism and a strong police force which quite frankly is daft. Similarly how would you choose between a strong education system and a good health system if you only had one choice left - without one (either one) you won't get the other! I realise having only three options is a bit of a limitation, but I decided to set the limit at that just due to problems I would have with analysing the results if people selected more than three. Unfortunately I was unable to do ranking in this section, as it was something I wanted to do, but due to the technical limitations that were imposed on me by using google surveys I was unable to. |
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Dec 17, 2014 18:06:45 GMT
Yes, I realise the reasoning, Malcolm. But, speaking purely personally, it would be better to allow respondents to that sort of question to prioritise as many options as they want but to rank them in order. For example a hypothetical respondent to the question in the survey who supports the concept of overseas aid and climate change is then forced to choose only one other option so he or she might have to choose between strong armed forces and counter terrorism and a strong police force which quite frankly is daft. Similarly how would you choose between a strong education system and a good health system if you only had one choice left - without one (either one) you won't get the other! I realise having only three options is a bit of a limitation, but I decided to set the limit at that just due to problems I would have with analysing the results if people selected more than three. Unfortunately I was unable to do ranking in this section, as it was something I wanted to do, but due to the technical limitations that were imposed on me by using google surveys I was unable to. Cheers for that - I understand your problem. Google surveys should be ashamed of themselves! |
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Post by scfcno1fan on Dec 17, 2014 18:14:45 GMT
Surprising number of votes for the Greens!
Also the majority of people proud to be English?
I'm certainly not (most of the time anyway).
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Post by enuntio on Dec 17, 2014 18:42:27 GMT
I would like to know what 3 boxes were ticked the most.
Housing. Cost of Living. Improve Social Harmony.
I am also wondering if the point of this survey is to try and guage the amount of, err. extremists, right wingers and so on
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Post by laurencebunch1 on Dec 17, 2014 19:07:11 GMT
I would like to know what 3 boxes were ticked the most. Housing. Cost of Living. Improve Social Harmony. I am also wondering if the point of this survey is to try and guage the amount of, err. extremists, right wingers and so on You can see the results so far here: docs.google.com/forms/d/1Jg8H3qdzr2ijsRKe6xLIfaCdVJXMtkAyOxblgM9U6Jk/viewanalyticsThe aim of the survey is primarily to explore the variations that exist in people's national identity through the football leagues and see what aspects are important to people's personal and national identity. |
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Post by enuntio on Dec 17, 2014 19:12:36 GMT
please come back and share your results when completed laurencebunch1
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Post by swampmongrel on Dec 17, 2014 19:14:55 GMT
If I was you I'd just make up the data to support/refute whichever theory you want. You'd then have more time in the pub.
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Post by stokesaint1 on Dec 17, 2014 19:49:14 GMT
I don't understand why football is the focus. For example if you were to do this survey in rugby(either code) strongholds,e.g's St Helens, Castleford, Wakefield, Bath, you would probably see a completely different slant. Similarly if you conducted it in Stoke or Wilmslow, where the predominant political affiliation would dictate the response, rather than the football affiliation. The survey is therefore only of relevance in locations where there is a strong high level football link, so becomes limited in terms of national identity. I think swampmongrel has probably got it sussed.
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Post by stokesaint1 on Dec 17, 2014 19:52:53 GMT
I don't understand why football is the focus. For example if you were to do this survey in rugby(either code) strongholds,e.g's St Helens, Castleford, Wakefield, Bath, you would probably see a completely different slant. Similarly if you conducted it in, for example, Stoke or Wilmslow, where the predominant political affiliation would dictate the response, rather than the football affiliation. The survey is therefore only of relevance in locations where there is a strong high level football link, where politics are irrelevant, so becomes limited in terms of national identity. I think swampmongrel has probably got it sussed.
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Post by roylandstoke on Dec 17, 2014 23:24:54 GMT
I would like to know what 3 boxes were ticked the most. Housing. Cost of Living. Improve Social Harmony. I am also wondering if the point of this survey is to try and guage the amount of, err. extremists, right wingers and so on economic inequality social harmony environmemt |
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Post by laurencebunch1 on Jan 31, 2015 16:13:24 GMT
Just an update that the survey has now received over 1,700 responses, with over 80 Stoke fans completing it, so thank you to everyone who completed it. The survey is still open for anyone else who wants to complete it.
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