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Post by stokemanusa on Jan 7, 2015 9:06:18 GMT
StokeLoudProud Update on Whelan's contract, we are miles apart what his agent wants. #Stoke #SCFC His agent wants one last hurrah payment surely? Glenn wants a two year, I'm guessing club want a one year with possible extension... not surprised really. |
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Post by GeneralFaye on Jan 7, 2015 9:15:01 GMT
Whelan has done well under Hughes but I trust him to find a suitable replacement in the summer if needed. Not concerned by this at all.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Jan 7, 2015 9:37:39 GMT
We never used to do our business in public like this. Times must really be hard at Etruria Towers.
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Post by FullerMagic on Jan 7, 2015 10:13:02 GMT
James Nursey @jamesnursey 43 minutes ago
Pulis wants a new winger on either flank for #WBA , a holding midfielder & a targetman to give side pace and power, feels squad v unbalanced
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Post by boskampsflaps on Jan 7, 2015 10:13:07 GMT
We should be giving him the two years, he deserves it and its not like its a massive contract length.
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Post by FullerMagic on Jan 7, 2015 10:15:36 GMT
Suppose it depends what he's asking for, but I'm surprised there's no compromise available for a good player who's been here for 7 years. He's still the best we've got in that role.
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Post by tazi on Jan 7, 2015 10:15:52 GMT
Superb for us who has a great engine which I can't see going anytime soon.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2015 10:16:46 GMT
How far apart is far apart?
Are we talking length? Wage? Bonus? Agent fee? All of the above?
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Post by foster on Jan 7, 2015 10:20:53 GMT
James Nursey @jamesnursey 43 minutes agoPulis wants a new winger on either flank for #WBA , a holding midfielder & a targetman to give side pace and power, feels squad v unbalanced If Pulis comes in with a fair offer for Whelan (let's say 4m+) then at this stage I'd sell him and buy an upgrade. |
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Post by foster on Jan 7, 2015 10:21:30 GMT
How far apart is far apart? Are we talking length? Wage? Bonus? Agent fee? All of the above? Distance I think |
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Post by Kjones9 on Jan 7, 2015 10:24:31 GMT
I love, when it suites, people believe what agents say/leak. Who knows what he's actually asking for.
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Post by cheekymatt71 on Jan 7, 2015 10:28:22 GMT
James Nursey @jamesnursey 43 minutes agoPulis wants a new winger on either flank for #WBA , a holding midfielder & a targetman to give side pace and power, feels squad v unbalanced And some new centre-halves to play full-back |
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Post by tazi on Jan 7, 2015 10:32:17 GMT
James Nursey @jamesnursey 43 minutes agoPulis wants a new winger on either flank for #WBA , a holding midfielder & a targetman to give side pace and power, feels squad v unbalanced If Pulis comes in with a fair offer for Whelan (let's say 4m+) then at this stage I'd sell him and buy an upgrade. £4M for a player almost out of contract....£500K tops if lucky. |
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Post by FullerMagic on Jan 7, 2015 10:32:33 GMT
James Nursey @jamesnursey 43 minutes agoPulis wants a new winger on either flank for #WBA , a holding midfielder & a targetman to give side pace and power, feels squad v unbalanced If Pulis comes in with a fair offer for Whelan (let's say 4m+) then at this stage I'd sell him and buy an upgrade. With him in his last 6 months of his deal we may have to settle for about £1.5m if we want to get anything for him? |
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Post by tazi on Jan 7, 2015 10:34:05 GMT
If Pulis comes in with a fair offer for Whelan (let's say 4m+) then at this stage I'd sell him and buy an upgrade. With him in his last 6 months of his deal we may have to settle for about £1.5m if we want to get anything for him? If lucky £500K tops. |
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Post by foster on Jan 7, 2015 10:42:11 GMT
With him in his last 6 months of his deal we may have to settle for about £1.5m if we want to get anything for him? If lucky £500K tops. Based on the logic commonly used on this forum, if Pulis paid 8m for Palacios then surely he'll pay 16m for Whelan. |
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Post by foster on Jan 7, 2015 10:45:57 GMT
If Pulis comes in with a fair offer for Whelan (let's say 4m+) then at this stage I'd sell him and buy an upgrade. With him in his last 6 months of his deal we may have to settle for about £1.5m if we want to get anything for him? I'd rather keep him then let him go for nothing when his contract expires.... if he doesn't agree to a 1 year extension. Selling for that amount and then bringing in a more costly replacement (fee and possibly wages) doesn't make sense. Might be best to just wait it out and then get a new player in if and when his contract runs out. |
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Post by jarvinski on Jan 7, 2015 11:00:27 GMT
Ive had plenty of bad things to say about whelan in the past, but after watching sidwell and adam try and do his job, we would have to pay a big fee to replace him, by the way that doesnt make me his number one fan mutts
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Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2015 12:31:54 GMT
An on form Sidwell is a better player than Whelan.I reckon Hughes thinks so too
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Post by bertiestan on Jan 7, 2015 13:03:51 GMT
With pulis supposedly havin 20 odd mil off the sale of Berahino burning a whole in his track suit pocket, it's likely he'd pay about 10 for owd glen.
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Post by thestatusquo on Jan 7, 2015 13:09:43 GMT
Unless we are offered a reasonable fee in January we may as well hang onto him and let the contract expire if he doesn't sign a new one and look for a replacement over the summer.
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Post by LGH87 on Jan 7, 2015 13:10:05 GMT
The seven points and one goal conceded over Christmas just shows how important Whelan is to the side, unless we can find somebody affordable who is better, we have to keep him.
Sidwell may be a better all round player, but Whelan does a specific role for the team that nobody else can do as well as he does.
Maybe it's time for Hughes to try and tempt Dembele away from Spurs.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Jan 7, 2015 13:11:34 GMT
James Nursey @jamesnursey 43 minutes agoPulis wants a new winger on either flank for #WBA , a holding midfielder & a targetman to give side pace and power, feels squad v unbalanced If Pulis comes in with a fair offer for Whelan (let's say 4m+) then at this stage I'd sell him and buy an upgrade. Even if we got a ludicrous amount for him there is no evidence that we would go out and spend a decent mount of money on an upgrade at all. It will be another cheap player with a decent if chequered past whose level of risk will be reflected in their piss pot price. |
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Post by Kjones9 on Jan 7, 2015 13:14:17 GMT
What's that Glenn? You want £50k a week?
Of course you can, the oatcake has spoken.
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Post by bertiestan on Jan 7, 2015 13:15:30 GMT
If Pulis comes in with a fair offer for Whelan (let's say 4m+) then at this stage I'd sell him and buy an upgrade. Even if we got a ludicrous amount for him there is no evidence that we would go out and spend a decent mount of money on an upgrade at all. It will be another cheap player with a decent if chequered past whose level of risk will be reflected in their piss pot price. Wow sheikh what a barrel of laughs you are today |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jan 7, 2015 14:42:19 GMT
You've got to hope we'd be willing to offer him 2 years. So presuming we are it does look like Glen's being a tad greedy. Good luck to him with whatever he gets from whoever.
If we aren't willing to give him 2 years that's very shite from us.
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Post by FullerMagic on Jan 7, 2015 14:50:06 GMT
You've got to hope we'd be willing to offer him 2 years. So presuming we are it does look like Glen's being a tad greedy. Good luck to him with whatever he gets from whoever. If we aren't willing to give him 2 years that's very shite from us. Was it the Irish press that first reported this alleged policy? It'd be odd if we were willing to offer Crouch a 2-yr deal, but not Whelan? Always though this idea was bonkers at Arsenal. And it looks the same here Irish Herald from last monthThe midfielder is out of contract at Stoke at the end of this season but talks on a new contract have failed to progress.
According to their club policy, Stoke will not offer new contracts longer than 12 months to players who are over 30, but Whelan - along with fellow thirty-something Peter Crouch - is not keen on just a one-year deal and is seeking a longer contract.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jan 7, 2015 14:52:40 GMT
You've got to hope we'd be willing to offer him 2 years. So presuming we are it does look like Glen's being a tad greedy. Good luck to him with whatever he gets from whoever. If we aren't willing to give him 2 years that's very shite from us. Was it the Irish press that first reported this alleged policy? It'd be odd if we were willing to offer Crouch a 2-yr deal, but not Whelan? Always though this idea was bonkers at Arsenal. And it looks the same here Irish Herald from last monthThe midfielder is out of contract at Stoke at the end of this season but talks on a new contract have failed to progress.
According to their club policy, Stoke will not offer new contracts longer than 12 months to players who are over 30, but Whelan - along with fellow thirty-something Peter Crouch - is not keen on just a one-year deal and is seeking a longer contract.
Is it policy or a journo making stuff up? Other than Tommy have we given any 30+ year old contracts recently? And his one year deals make sense, just offering Whelan that doesn't. |
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Post by dutchstokie on Jan 7, 2015 14:54:51 GMT
If Pulis comes in with a fair offer for Whelan (let's say 4m+) then at this stage I'd sell him and buy an upgrade. Even if we got a ludicrous amount for him there is no evidence that we would go out and spend a decent mount of money on an upgrade at all. It will be another cheap player with a decent if chequered past whose level of risk will be reflected in their piss pot price. A stinging yet quite accurate analysis  |
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Post by foster on Jan 7, 2015 14:56:21 GMT
You've got to hope we'd be willing to offer him 2 years. So presuming we are it does look like Glen's being a tad greedy. Good luck to him with whatever he gets from whoever. If we aren't willing to give him 2 years that's very shite from us. Was it the Irish press that first reported this alleged policy? It'd be odd if we were willing to offer Crouch a 2-yr deal, but not Whelan? Always though this idea was bonkers at Arsenal. And it looks the same here Irish Herald from last monthThe midfielder is out of contract at Stoke at the end of this season but talks on a new contract have failed to progress.
According to their club policy, Stoke will not offer new contracts longer than 12 months to players who are over 30, but Whelan - along with fellow thirty-something Peter Crouch - is not keen on just a one-year deal and is seeking a longer contract.
Funny because that's Chelsea's policy. |
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