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Post by dutchstokie on Dec 15, 2014 13:24:39 GMT
If you want out the manager who has delivered our best ever PL season then fine, it's your opinion, no matter how fucked up it may be.
What bullshit have I spouted against Pulis - it's all perfectly correct?
Thanks for the distant best ever finish to our premier league Marky Mark and De Boyzzzz. Now clear the fcuk out. Sham fcuking bolic, toothless up top and calamitous at the back. Aahh bless..... You seem to have all the answers so who is going to take Hughes' place.....? (And dont tell me the tit with the cap can come back)
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Post by tazi on Dec 15, 2014 13:30:18 GMT
Thanks for the distant best ever finish to our premier league Marky Mark and De Boyzzzz. Now clear the fcuk out. Sham fcuking bolic, toothless up top and calamitous at the back. Aahh bless..... You seem to have all the answers so who is going to take Hughes' place.....? (And dont tell me the tit with the cap can come back) Said many many weeks ago......Lee Sinnott.
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Post by huddy on Dec 15, 2014 13:32:07 GMT
WTF?
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Post by tazi on Dec 15, 2014 13:35:55 GMT
Put a cap on Lee, piece of piss.
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Post by Jamo on the wing on Dec 15, 2014 14:01:33 GMT
I can't believe anybody actually and honestly wants to get rid of a manager who currently has us 11th following on from the best season in our first 6 years in the top flight and who has had to put up with an horrendous injury list this season along with very little financial support during the last three transfer windows.
We could easily have a few more points than we currently have despite being a "shambles" which is quite an achievement really.
In actual fact it's perhaps a testimony to how well Hughes is doing if we are a "shambles" yet still getting the results we are.
There is clearly room for improvement in certain aspects but I expect this to get better if/when Huth returns and when the manager can start to pick a more settled side.
In the meantime I'll remain very happy overall with the job our manager is doing and understand the difficult circumstances he's been working under of late.
It seems the expectancy levels of some must have changed dramatically because in the past, a far worse state of affairs was more than acceptable.
I guess things change eh?
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Post by dutchstokie on Dec 15, 2014 14:06:24 GMT
Aahh bless..... You seem to have all the answers so who is going to take Hughes' place.....? (And dont tell me the tit with the cap can come back) Said many many weeks ago......Lee Sinnott. Dear god.....
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Post by tazi on Dec 15, 2014 14:07:20 GMT
Said many many weeks ago......Lee Sinnott. Dear god..... That was after taking an HRT pill mind.
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Post by Kjones9 on Dec 15, 2014 14:27:49 GMT
So no actual solid proof that pulis is wanted by Brighton? Not even a tedious link. Just another thread of fawning.
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Post by okeydokeystokie2 on Dec 16, 2014 11:34:22 GMT
He was hired to achieve results, not to achieve lower results in a better style. In an ideal world, we'd have achieved what we did under him in a better style but he wasn't capable of doing it. At the end of the day, he achieved what was expected of him and, when that wasn't considered enough, he was moved on. If I was given the choice to achieve what we did in the style we did it in and achieve less in a style the manager wasn't comfortable with and, more than likely, a style he wouldn't be able to achieve entertainment with, I'd pick the first one every time. I just sit here and look at Swansea with envy. They achieved everything we did and more. They won promotion, they stayed up and built a side to be competitive, they won a trophy, they spent less money. They did it playing football. We did it by kicking the ball up the pitch and fighting for set pieces. We did it by utilising a style that will leave a stain on this club that will last for decades. If that makes me an 'ungrateful fucker' then so be it. It's my opinion and it won't be altered. Maybe we should let it go, but I can't let this post go.
Everything you say about Swansea is correct. They have done superbly well. I might argue that they had a little luck on the way (which everybody can use) with Michu having one fantastic season and winning their trophy against err, Bradford City, wasn't it?
If you are a Stoke City supporter though, the way you constantly pick at our achievements and our previous manager is embarrassing.
The example you picked is a complete one-off. You could have also said Southampton, who thanks to their superb academy have also done really well. The fact that they went bust on the way is now overlooked.
But after that, no club achieved more than Stoke City under Tony Pulis.
What about the teams that got promotion and failed? West Brom, Hull, Burnley, Birmingham City, Wolves, Reading, Norwich, Cardiff or Blackpool?
Or the teams that didn't cut it in The Prem. Blackburn, Bolton, Wigan, Middlesbrough or Fulham? West Ham and Newcastle United have been relegated in that time.
There's lots of those teams, but that doesn't sit so well on your high horse as Swansea City.
There's also lots of big clubs that would love to do what we've done over the last 8 years. Leeds United, Nottingham Forest, Ipswich Town, Sheffield Wednesday, Sheffield United, Derby County... oh hang on, doesn't suit the argument so well.
Your argument is like me saying we haven't done we haven't done too badly when you look at Portsmouth. It's a ridiculous exceptional extreme.
Tony Pulis did a fantastic job over that period and Mark Hughes is building on that good work. That is the reality of the situation, and the fact that you and one or two others can't bring yourself to acknowledge that is very sad.
I pity you for having to put up with those awful Pulis years. In my opinion, you are a not a true supporter of Stoke City. Any other Onlooker would look on with envy.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 16, 2014 13:17:49 GMT
I just sit here and look at Swansea with envy. They achieved everything we did and more. They won promotion, they stayed up and built a side to be competitive, they won a trophy, they spent less money. They did it playing football. We did it by kicking the ball up the pitch and fighting for set pieces. We did it by utilising a style that will leave a stain on this club that will last for decades. If that makes me an 'ungrateful fucker' then so be it. It's my opinion and it won't be altered. Maybe we should let it go, but I can't let this post go.
Everything you say about Swansea is correct. They have done superbly well. I might argue that they had a little luck on the way (which everybody can use) with Michu having one fantastic season and winning their trophy against err, Bradford City, wasn't it?
If you are a Stoke City supporter though, the way you constantly pick at our achievements and our previous manager is embarrassing.
The example you picked is a complete one-off. You could have also said Southampton, who thanks to their superb academy have also done really well. The fact that they went bust on the way is now overlooked.
But after that, no club achieved more than Stoke City under Tony Pulis.
What about the teams that got promotion and failed? West Brom, Hull, Burnley, Birmingham City, Wolves, Reading, Norwich, Cardiff or Blackpool?
Or the teams that didn't cut it in The Prem. Blackburn, Bolton, Wigan, Middlesbrough or Fulham? West Ham and Newcastle United have been relegated in that time.
There's lots of those teams, but that doesn't sit so well on your high horse as Swansea City.
There's also lots of big clubs that would love to do what we've done over the last 8 years. Leeds United, Nottingham Forest, Ipswich Town, Sheffield Wednesday, Sheffield United, Derby County... oh hang on, doesn't suit the argument so well.
Your argument is like me saying we haven't done we haven't done too badly when you look at Portsmouth. It's a ridiculous exceptional extreme.
Tony Pulis did a fantastic job over that period and Mark Hughes is building on that good work. That is the reality of the situation, and the fact that you and one or two others can't bring yourself to acknowledge that is very sad.
I pity you for having to put up with those awful Pulis years. In my opinion, you are a not a true supporter of Stoke City. Any other Onlooker would look on with envy.
That's a lovely little post and I thank you for taking the time to write it. Really I do. It doesn't really go anywhere though does it and it doesn't really make a point that anyone else could have done, does it? We all know that 3 clubs per season get relegated and we know that bigger clubs than Stoke City have hit on hard times. We know because we've been one through the 80's and 90's whilst Wimbledon, for example, were hacking their way through the Premier League. The reason you can't let my post go is a very simple one. It is bang on the money and it proves the point that so many fans were saying when they took exception to the methods of the former manager, that there is another way of doing what he did and we didn't have to sit through mind numbing games of football where we might aswell have stayed at home watching Ceefax tick the clock by...minute by minute. Whether Swansea are one example of one or one example of tens it doesn't matter. They proved the point that so many fans with another viewpoint said wasn't possible. It obviously was. I appreciated Pulis more in the Championship. Simple reason because he was managing a club that was then owned by owners that didn't want to be here and he did an excellent job at building us from a bottom of the league side to mid table on virtually nothing. I admire that. I admire the ability to get us into the Premier League. What I don't admire is spending 20M a season in a totally bulletproof job, where he had virtually carte blanche, and playing exactly the same system and style of football as he was at the bottom of the Championship. Combine all of the evidence from within this club and others from the outside and you are left with very few excuses - results withstanding. For the record, I was very proud of my football club standing on a grass bank at Wigan under Alan Ball and I was proud of my football club for it's highest league position finish for decades last season, and every season in between. It doesn't alter my opinion on what I perceive to be good football, bad football or any range in the spectrum between.
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Post by Pugsley on Dec 16, 2014 13:30:06 GMT
I just sit here and look at Swansea with envy. They achieved everything we did and more. They won promotion, they stayed up and built a side to be competitive, they won a trophy, they spent less money. They did it playing football. We did it by kicking the ball up the pitch and fighting for set pieces. We did it by utilising a style that will leave a stain on this club that will last for decades. If that makes me an 'ungrateful fucker' then so be it. It's my opinion and it won't be altered. Maybe we should let it go, but I can't let this post go.
Everything you say about Swansea is correct. They have done superbly well. I might argue that they had a little luck on the way (which everybody can use) with Michu having one fantastic season and winning their trophy against err, Bradford City, wasn't it?
Er after beating Chelsea in a two legged Semi-Final...
oh, Liverpool away as well...
Remind me who we beat on the way to Wembley and what happened when we came up against a top side?
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Post by okeydokeystokie2 on Dec 16, 2014 13:46:08 GMT
Maybe we should let it go, but I can't let this post go.
Everything you say about Swansea is correct. They have done superbly well. I might argue that they had a little luck on the way (which everybody can use) with Michu having one fantastic season and winning their trophy against err, Bradford City, wasn't it?
If you are a Stoke City supporter though, the way you constantly pick at our achievements and our previous manager is embarrassing.
The example you picked is a complete one-off. You could have also said Southampton, who thanks to their superb academy have also done really well. The fact that they went bust on the way is now overlooked.
But after that, no club achieved more than Stoke City under Tony Pulis.
What about the teams that got promotion and failed? West Brom, Hull, Burnley, Birmingham City, Wolves, Reading, Norwich, Cardiff or Blackpool?
Or the teams that didn't cut it in The Prem. Blackburn, Bolton, Wigan, Middlesbrough or Fulham? West Ham and Newcastle United have been relegated in that time.
There's lots of those teams, but that doesn't sit so well on your high horse as Swansea City.
There's also lots of big clubs that would love to do what we've done over the last 8 years. Leeds United, Nottingham Forest, Ipswich Town, Sheffield Wednesday, Sheffield United, Derby County... oh hang on, doesn't suit the argument so well.
Your argument is like me saying we haven't done we haven't done too badly when you look at Portsmouth. It's a ridiculous exceptional extreme.
Tony Pulis did a fantastic job over that period and Mark Hughes is building on that good work. That is the reality of the situation, and the fact that you and one or two others can't bring yourself to acknowledge that is very sad.
I pity you for having to put up with those awful Pulis years. In my opinion, you are a not a true supporter of Stoke City. Any other Onlooker would look on with envy.
That's a lovely little post and I thank you for taking the time to write it. Really I do. It doesn't really go anywhere though does it and it doesn't really make a point that anyone else could have done, does it? We all know that 3 clubs per season get relegated and we know that bigger clubs than Stoke City have hit on hard times. We know because we've been one through the 80's and 90's whilst Wimbledon, for example, were hacking their way through the Premier League. The reason you can't let my post go is a very simple one. It is bang on the money and it proves the point that so many fans were saying when they took exception to the methods of the former manager, that there is another way of doing what he did and we didn't have to sit through mind numbing games of football where we might aswell have stayed at home watching Ceefax tick the clock by...minute by minute. Whether Swansea are one example of one or one example of tens it doesn't matter. They proved the point that so many fans with another viewpoint said wasn't possible. It obviously was. I appreciated Pulis more in the Championship. Simple reason because he was managing a club that was then owned by owners that didn't want to be here and he did an excellent job at building us from a bottom of the league side to mid table on virtually nothing. I admire that. I admire the ability to get us into the Premier League. What I don't admire is spending 20M a season in a totally bulletproof job, where he had virtually carte blanche, and playing exactly the same system and style of football as he was at the bottom of the Championship. Combine all of the evidence from within this club and others from the outside and you are left with very few excuses - results withstanding. For the record, I was very proud of my football club standing on a grass bank at Wigan under Alan Ball and I was proud of my football club for it's highest league position finish for decades last season, and every season in between. It doesn't alter my opinion on what I perceive to be good football, bad football or any range in the spectrum between. Thanks also for taking the time to reply, albeit in a rather patronising tone to my "lovely little post."
It is ironic that you mention Wigan under Alan Ball. From memory we lost 4-0 and it was probably the lowest point in our club's rich history. Between them, Tony Pulis and Peter Coates helped to re-build our football club.
As I said, Swansea did a fantastic job, better than us. But that is a rare achievement.
My point is that there would be literally hundreds of thousands of football supporters who would love to have had the excitement that we enjoyed. Of promotion, the miracle of surviving against the odds, a record breaking FA cup semi final win (all goals from open play) and a chance of European competition.
The budget to build a Premier League squad from scratch was not excessive in my opinion, and where some transfers didn't work out, others were fantastic. I never thought I would see Stoke City play in the Premier League, and I never thought we would survive. That's why to me, your comments are at best ungracious, and at worst, unfair.
I'm sorry the aesthetic beauty of the football was not to your taste. Unless my memory is playing tricks on me though, it was a damn sight prettier than Alan Ball's efforts at Springfield Park
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Post by Deleted on Dec 16, 2014 13:58:36 GMT
That's a lovely little post and I thank you for taking the time to write it. Really I do. It doesn't really go anywhere though does it and it doesn't really make a point that anyone else could have done, does it? We all know that 3 clubs per season get relegated and we know that bigger clubs than Stoke City have hit on hard times. We know because we've been one through the 80's and 90's whilst Wimbledon, for example, were hacking their way through the Premier League. The reason you can't let my post go is a very simple one. It is bang on the money and it proves the point that so many fans were saying when they took exception to the methods of the former manager, that there is another way of doing what he did and we didn't have to sit through mind numbing games of football where we might aswell have stayed at home watching Ceefax tick the clock by...minute by minute. Whether Swansea are one example of one or one example of tens it doesn't matter. They proved the point that so many fans with another viewpoint said wasn't possible. It obviously was. I appreciated Pulis more in the Championship. Simple reason because he was managing a club that was then owned by owners that didn't want to be here and he did an excellent job at building us from a bottom of the league side to mid table on virtually nothing. I admire that. I admire the ability to get us into the Premier League. What I don't admire is spending 20M a season in a totally bulletproof job, where he had virtually carte blanche, and playing exactly the same system and style of football as he was at the bottom of the Championship. Combine all of the evidence from within this club and others from the outside and you are left with very few excuses - results withstanding. For the record, I was very proud of my football club standing on a grass bank at Wigan under Alan Ball and I was proud of my football club for it's highest league position finish for decades last season, and every season in between. It doesn't alter my opinion on what I perceive to be good football, bad football or any range in the spectrum between. Thanks also for taking the time to reply, albeit in a rather patronising tone to my "lovely little post."
It is ironic that you mention Wigan under Alan Ball. From memory we lost 4-0 and it was probably the lowest point in our club's rich history. Between them, Tony Pulis and Peter Coates helped to re-build our football club.
As I said, Swansea did a fantastic job, better than us. But that is a rare achievement.
My point is that there would be literally hundreds of thousands of football supporters who would love to have had the excitement that we enjoyed. Of promotion, the miracle of surviving against the odds, a record breaking FA cup semi final win (all goals from open play) and a chance of European competition.
The budget to build a Premier League squad from scratch was not excessive in my opinion, and where some transfers didn't work out, others were fantastic. I never thought I would see Stoke City play in the Premier League, and I never thought we would survive. That's why to me, your comments are at best ungracious, and at worst, unfair.
I'm sorry the aesthetic beauty of the football was not to your taste. Unless my memory is playing tricks on me though, it was a damn sight prettier than Alan Ball's efforts at Springfield Park
Apologies for the odd line of questioning but are you a salesman per chance? Or do you work in Marketing?
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Post by tazi on Dec 16, 2014 14:12:49 GMT
Bang on the money okey.
Now, what quote was it again for that conservatory?.
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Post by okeydokeystokie2 on Dec 16, 2014 14:47:00 GMT
Apology accepted, but your question is irrelevant. I'm a lifelong Stoke City supporter.
I appreciate your interest in conservatories, Tazi, but am reminded of an old proverb about people in glass houses...
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Post by tazi on Dec 16, 2014 14:51:27 GMT
Apology accepted, but your question is irrelevant. I'm a lifelong Stoke City supporter. I appreciate your interest in conservatories, Tazi, but am reminded of an old proverb about people in glass houses... Me too
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Post by Silkystoke on Dec 16, 2014 14:59:38 GMT
Pulis = Past
Hughes = Future
100% behind Mark and the boys... there will be problems and fuck ups, but its more fun than watching that shite Pulis gave us...
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Post by foxysgloves on Dec 16, 2014 15:07:19 GMT
Pulis = Past Hughes = Future 100% behind Mark and the boys... there will be problems and fuck ups, but its more fun than watching that shite Pulis gave us... Hmmmmmm.....agreed re. Hughes but I kinda enjoyed a lot of TPs "shite". Promotion, staying up, being the bollocks at home for long spells, going to Wembley. Twice. Was it really all that bad?
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Post by okeydokeystokie2 on Dec 16, 2014 15:12:22 GMT
I totally agree with 80% of that.
Pulis is the past but we shouldn't diminish his achievements while he was here. I'm excited about our football club right now, and as I've said previously, I think Mark Hughes is really close to a cracking side. Maybe even top 8 in this league. I think he's doing a brilliant job.
There will be ups and downs which I totally accept, and I also accept that some of our football has been fantastic to watch.
But will it be more FUN than that journey from survival in the Championship versus Reading at home to promotion, the Premier League, the FA Cup final and Europe? I hope so, but he'll have to go some to top that fairy tale.
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Post by jstoke7 on Dec 16, 2014 15:18:56 GMT
Pulis = Past Hughes = Future 100% behind Mark and the boys... there will be problems and fuck ups, but its more fun than watching that shite Pulis gave us... Hmmmmmm.....agreed re. Hughes but I kinda enjoyed a lot of TPs "shite". Promotion, staying up, being the bollocks at home for long spells, going to Wembley. Twice. Was it really all that bad? Depends on opinion. Pulis years with us in the Prem were the most disassociated I've ever felt to Stoke and I'm sure some others feel the same way. The way in which we played and set up, the predictability of pretty much every goal being either a Set Piece or Knock on/Scramble just didn't do it for me, just as I'm sure some of passing football under Hughes doesn't do it for them.
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Post by jstoke7 on Dec 16, 2014 15:22:19 GMT
I totally agree with 80% of that. Pulis is the past but we shouldn't diminish his achievements while he was here. I'm excited about our football club right now, and as I've said previously, I think Mark Hughes is really close to a cracking side. Maybe even top 8 in this league. I think he's doing a brilliant job. There will be ups and downs which I totally accept, and I also accept that some of our football has been fantastic to watch. But will it be more FUN than that journey from survival in the Championship versus Reading at home to promotion, the Premier League, the FA Cup final and Europe? I hope so, but he'll have to go some to top that fairy tale. On paper it's absolutely fantastic no question, but for me the way in which we achieved it (whilst I respect it) didn't make it anywhere near as special as it could of been. That's my opinion though, I just wish people could understand that the quality of the football for some of us blotted the whole experience.
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Post by ryouonthistrain on Dec 16, 2014 15:24:46 GMT
Lol and my thread got shitbinned?? So many threads turn into this love him, hate him shit!! LET IT GO!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 16, 2014 15:25:56 GMT
I totally agree with 80% of that. Pulis is the past but we shouldn't diminish his achievements while he was here. I'm excited about our football club right now, and as I've said previously, I think Mark Hughes is really close to a cracking side. Maybe even top 8 in this league. I think he's doing a brilliant job. There will be ups and downs which I totally accept, and I also accept that some of our football has been fantastic to watch. But will it be more FUN than that journey from survival in the Championship versus Reading at home to promotion, the Premier League, the FA Cup final and Europe? I hope so, but he'll have to go some to top that fairy tale. On paper it's absolutely fantastic no question, but for me the way in which we achieved it (whilst I respect it) didn't make it anywhere near as special as it could of been. That's my opinion though, I just wish people could understand that the quality of the football for some of us blotted the whole experience. Some people can't get their head around that point mate. Some people can't grasp that many didn't enjoy watching a team that cost millions playing fight ball for set pieces.
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Post by okeydokeystokie2 on Dec 16, 2014 16:01:54 GMT
I can't get my head around the fact that you're more bothered about the style of football than Stoke City FC.
Stoke City is our football club. The heart and soul of the reason why we love football. It gives us a sense of pride in our home town.
If you're so bothered about pretty football, just get a Sky subscription. Watch the soulless Champions League.
But if you are a Stoke City supporter, recognise the achievements of a man who gave his best for us and led us through one of the most successful periods in 150 years. Hey, it might not have been as good as Swansea. Bloody Hell, write to Peter Coates and ask for a refund.
Are you sure the football was all so bad, like Foxy says? West Brom and Wolves away, Bristol City and Norwich at home, those memorable wins in the Prem like Aston Villa, Manchester City, Spurs, Liverpool, Arsenal. Putting 5 past Bolton as underdogs in the semi-final of the FA Cup?
If you honestly didn't enjoy watching your team take that journey from the bottom of the championship to the Premier League, the Cup final and back to European football, I feel really sorry for you.
I can't get my head around how you can't enjoy that. Stick to Sky and take up fishing. You might enjoy it more.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 16, 2014 16:08:20 GMT
I can't get my head around the fact that you're more bothered about the style of football than Stoke City FC. Stoke City is our football club. The heart and soul of the reason why we love football. It gives us a sense of pride in our home town. If you're so bothered about pretty football, just get a Sky subscription. Watch the soulless Champions League. But if you are a Stoke City supporter, recognise the achievements of a man who gave his best for us and led us through one of the most successful periods in 150 years. Hey, it might not have been as good as Swansea. Bloody Hell, write to Peter Coates and ask for a refund. Are you sure the football was all so bad, like Foxy says? West Brom and Wolves away, Bristol City and Norwich at home, those memorable wins in the Prem like Aston Villa, Manchester City, Spurs, Liverpool, Arsenal. Putting 5 past Bolton as underdogs in the semi-final of the FA Cup? If you honestly didn't enjoy watching your team take that journey from the bottom of the championship to the Premier League, the Cup final and back to European football, I feel really sorry for you. I can't get my head around how you can't enjoy that. Stick to Sky and take up fishing. You might enjoy it more. I find your debating point interesting. "If you don't enjoy what I do then buy Sky and take up fishing". I got you wrong. Maybe you aren't a salesman. Tory Politician? I'm bothered about Stoke City being the best they can be, in terms of results and style. The two aren't mutually exclusive. Thankfully Hughes showed us a little insight into that last season.
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Post by wearestoke80 on Dec 16, 2014 16:16:03 GMT
Pulis = Past Hughes = Future 100% behind Mark and the boys... there will be problems and fuck ups, but its more fun than watching that shite Pulis gave us... What a stupid post Pulis is one of the clubs best ever managers, in terms of achievements and that's all you have to say? Get a grip
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Post by okeydokeystokie2 on Dec 16, 2014 16:40:25 GMT
You've got me wrong again. Stick to moaning about your football club. You're way better at that than guessing my profession.
It's nothing to do with what I enjoy.
I just get fed up of Stoke City supporters telling me how terrible it was under Tony Pulis.
I want Stoke City to be the best they can be. I've said what a fantastic job Mark Hughes is doing. I can see a terrific team in there. We have played some amazing football under MH. He's assembled the most talented squad of players I've seen at Stoke since I was a kid.
But nobody is going to tell me we didn't have some great times under TP as well. Fantastic games, fantastic memories. He gave us Ricardo Fuller, one of the most entertaining footballers I've ever seen. When he arrived we were bottom of the Championship, and he left us as a solid mid table premier league team. A rise up the leagues of some 30 odd places. Getting Stoke City into the Premier League was a dream. Keeping us there was a miracle.
SilkyStokie refers to the "shite Pulis gave us" and has his little picture of half of Wembley red and white at the FA Cup final. You couldn't make it up! To continue your Tory politician theme and paraphrase Churchill, "Some gift. Some shite."
I'm not going to change your mind. Some of you are too deeply entrenched in a pointless war of style and personalities.
Most real Stoke City supporters will be "forever grateful" to Tony Pulis and Peter Coates, though some will never be big enough to admit they might just have been wrong about our previous manager.
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Post by Pugsley on Dec 16, 2014 16:47:53 GMT
You've got me wrong again. Stick to moaning about your football club. You're way better at that than guessing my profession. It's nothing to do with what I enjoy. I just get fed up of Stoke City supporters telling me how terrible it was under Tony Pulis. I want Stoke City to be the best they can be. I've said what a fantastic job Mark Hughes is doing. I can see a terrific team in there. We have played some amazing football under MH. He's assembled the most talented squad of players I've seen at Stoke since I was a kid. But nobody is going to tell me we didn't have some great times under TP as well. Fantastic games, fantastic memories. He gave us Ricardo Fuller, one of the most entertaining footballers I've ever seen. When he arrived we were bottom of the Championship, and he left us as a solid mid table premier league team. A rise up the leagues of some 30 odd places. Getting Stoke City into the Premier League was a dream. Keeping us there was a miracle. SilkyStokie refers to the "shite Pulis gave us" and has his little picture of half of Wembley red and white at the FA Cup final. You couldn't make it up! To continue your Tory politician theme and paraphrase Churchill, "Some gift. Some shite." I'm not going to change your mind. Some of you are too deeply entrenched in a pointless war of style and personalities. Most real Stoke City supporters will be "forever grateful" to Tony Pulis and Peter Coates, though some will never be big enough to admit they might just have been wrong about our previous manager.
Who the hell are you to say who are 'real' supporters or not?
Forever grateful... do me a favour.
I notice I got no reply to my post about your 'er Bradford' reference.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 16, 2014 16:48:00 GMT
You've got me wrong again. Stick to moaning about your football club. You're way better at that than guessing my profession. It's nothing to do with what I enjoy. I just get fed up of Stoke City supporters telling me how terrible it was under Tony Pulis. I want Stoke City to be the best they can be. I've said what a fantastic job Mark Hughes is doing. I can see a terrific team in there. We have played some amazing football under MH. He's assembled the most talented squad of players I've seen at Stoke since I was a kid. But nobody is going to tell me we didn't have some great times under TP as well. Fantastic games, fantastic memories. He gave us Ricardo Fuller, one of the most entertaining footballers I've ever seen. When he arrived we were bottom of the Championship, and he left us as a solid mid table premier league team. A rise up the leagues of some 30 odd places. Getting Stoke City into the Premier League was a dream. Keeping us there was a miracle. SilkyStokie refers to the "shite Pulis gave us" and has his little picture of half of Wembley red and white at the FA Cup final. You couldn't make it up! To continue your Tory politician theme and paraphrase Churchill, "Some gift. Some shite." I'm not going to change your mind. Some of you are too deeply entrenched in a pointless war of style and personalities. Most real Stoke City supporters will be "forever grateful" to Tony Pulis and Peter Coates, though some will never be big enough to admit they might just have been wrong about our previous manager. What do you think we would achieve if we gave Hughes 20M a year to spend?
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Post by tazi on Dec 16, 2014 17:01:11 GMT
You've got me wrong again. Stick to moaning about your football club. You're way better at that than guessing my profession. It's nothing to do with what I enjoy. I just get fed up of Stoke City supporters telling me how terrible it was under Tony Pulis. I want Stoke City to be the best they can be. I've said what a fantastic job Mark Hughes is doing. I can see a terrific team in there. We have played some amazing football under MH. He's assembled the most talented squad of players I've seen at Stoke since I was a kid. But nobody is going to tell me we didn't have some great times under TP as well. Fantastic games, fantastic memories. He gave us Ricardo Fuller, one of the most entertaining footballers I've ever seen. When he arrived we were bottom of the Championship, and he left us as a solid mid table premier league team. A rise up the leagues of some 30 odd places. Getting Stoke City into the Premier League was a dream. Keeping us there was a miracle. SilkyStokie refers to the "shite Pulis gave us" and has his little picture of half of Wembley red and white at the FA Cup final. You couldn't make it up! To continue your Tory politician theme and paraphrase Churchill, "Some gift. Some shite." I'm not going to change your mind. Some of you are too deeply entrenched in a pointless war of style and personalities. Most real Stoke City supporters will be "forever grateful" to Tony Pulis and Peter Coates, though some will never be big enough to admit they might just have been wrong about our previous manager. Fcuk me mate you might as well step outside, pull thee zip down, pull thee cock out, face the wind and piss in it.
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