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Post by Deleted on Nov 23, 2014 11:56:27 GMT
Very funny that
and true to form - he and his friends did not let us down
did not affect the result this time -even though he tried
good on ya Martyn - ya bent twat !
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Post by f1rew0rks on Nov 23, 2014 12:06:55 GMT
didnt seem "bent" to me. referees are human, and make mistakes, can be duped by play acting, can even be influenced by the crowd (just like players can).
We really should accept responsibility for our own deficiencies rather than trying to constantly deflect the blame or attention onto the referee.
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Post by luke45 on Nov 23, 2014 12:10:56 GMT
He made a series of dreadful decisions yesterday, notably allowing Heaton to persistently time waste even after he was booked, and not booking Danny Ings and Victor Moses for blatant diving. He's a hopeless referee but we lost that game yesterday because of our own incompetence and there's no excuse for it.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 23, 2014 12:12:31 GMT
Didnt I say he tried to affect it (result) but on this occasion didnt quite manage it ?
wierd how some people write stuff before actually understanding the original bloody point
and this fella is overtly got 'something' against Stoke - that conclusion is - inescapable
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Post by f1rew0rks on Nov 23, 2014 12:13:02 GMT
useless, crap or totally incompetent yes. bent .... naaaa
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Post by RAF on Nov 23, 2014 12:13:30 GMT
didnt seem "bent" to me. referees are human, and make mistakes, can be duped by play acting, can even be influenced by the crowd (just like players can). We really should accept responsibility for our own deficiencies rather than trying to constantly deflect the blame or attention onto the referee. You didn't see his performance last season for us away at Newcastle then? Bent as they come and a complete incompetent. H |
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Post by f1rew0rks on Nov 23, 2014 12:14:38 GMT
Didnt I say he tried to affect it (result) but on this occasion didnt quite manage it ? wierd how some people write stuff before actually understanding the original bloody point if you actually look at MY reply, you'll see that i said deflect the blame OR ATTENTION .... wierd how some people write stuff before actually understanding the original bloody point  |
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Post by f1rew0rks on Nov 23, 2014 12:16:26 GMT
didnt seem "bent" to me. referees are human, and make mistakes, can be duped by play acting, can even be influenced by the crowd (just like players can). We really should accept responsibility for our own deficiencies rather than trying to constantly deflect the blame or attention onto the referee. You didn't see his performance last season for us away at Newcastle then? Bent as they come and a complete incompetent. H we were not talking about last year at Newcastle, but yes now you mention it. Whelan (in particular) made Atkinsons decision very very easy last year at Newcastle. Anyone who thinks differently is looking through red and white coloured glasses |
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Post by RAF on Nov 23, 2014 12:21:16 GMT
You didn't see his performance last season for us away at Newcastle then? Bent as they come and a complete incompetent. H we were not talking about last year at Newcastle, but yes now you mention it. Whelan (in particular) made Atkinsons decision very very easy last year at Newcastle. Anyone who thinks differently is looking through red and white coloured glasses That's exactly what we are talking about as this is why it was sung before the match started, as alluded to by the OP. Yesterday he wasn't giving us anything , but he is bent as a nine bob note, and for the record 2 of my Geordie mates thought he robbed us up there and I hardly think they were looking through red and white coloured glasses. If you think otherwise I suggest you are in the minority, not that there is anything wrong in being in the minority if that is what you believe of course. H |
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Post by werrington on Nov 23, 2014 12:31:08 GMT
You didn't see his performance last season for us away at Newcastle then? Bent as they come and a complete incompetent. H we were not talking about last year at Newcastle, but yes now you mention it. Whelan (in particular) made Atkinsons decision very very easy last year at Newcastle. Anyone who thinks differently is looking through red and white coloured glasses If you think that Whelan deserved 2 yellow cards then we may as well either sub every player on a yellow card or put the boots away and call it a day There were a few incidents that day that didn't and still don't sit right with me .....most notably the blatant handball that he went to give then changed his mind from which Newcastle went upfield and scored from It was all bordering on sinister |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 23, 2014 12:37:16 GMT
There is no doubt he has an agenda against Stoke, he was woeful again yesterday.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 23, 2014 12:46:33 GMT
I don't normally buy into all this world is against us bollocks but Atkinson has proved that he definitely does not like us one bit.
He is a grade A cunthook.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 23, 2014 14:12:10 GMT
He played it low-key yesterday. He let them get away with constant time wasting which he barely added any time for, but aside from that, he was no worse than the other fucktards we get every week.
He didn't need to do anything controversial though as we'd already buggered the match up. He didn't start his antics at Newcastle until we'd taken the lead. I'm thinking any equaliser yesterday would have been chalked off for a mystery infringement - probably something to do with Shawcross.
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Post by pottersrule on Nov 23, 2014 14:19:00 GMT
Very funny that and true to form - he and his friends did not let us down did not affect the result this time -even though he tried good on ya Martyn - ya bent twat ! We even lost the toss,the twat probably used a double headed coin. |
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Post by 2004 on Nov 23, 2014 14:34:39 GMT
Out of all the refs Atkinson is definately the one most likely to be corrupt.
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Post by sportsman on Nov 23, 2014 14:44:25 GMT
didnt seem "bent" to me. referees are human, and make mistakes, can be duped by play acting, can even be influenced by the crowd (just like players can). We really should accept responsibility for our own deficiencies rather than trying to constantly deflect the blame or attention onto the referee. Pisser. Where have you been, on the moon? |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 23, 2014 14:51:10 GMT
There was an incident in the second half when there was a blatant foul on one of our players right in front of him. Burnley came away with the ball and he let them play on for a few seconds then brought play back and finally gave us a free-kick. Just for a moment I actually started to believe he was stupid, not corrupt.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 23, 2014 14:55:26 GMT
The Lino on the Novus stand also made a big mistake, which led to their second goal. Blatant throw in to Stoke, and he gives it to Burnley, which just after, they went up the pitch and scored. Imbecile! Clueless, you name it, we get em!
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Post by adamsson on Nov 23, 2014 15:00:55 GMT
Trouble is he took every opportunity to prove that he wasn't intimidated by the crowd and gave Burnley every decision he could and let them get away with huge amounts of time wasting
Counterproductive is the word
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Post by Deleted on Nov 23, 2014 15:47:25 GMT
The bloke has a problem with us. It's that simple.
Notice NZonzi got penalised for an almost identical tackle to Song the other week, bar the two footed nature? Nzonzi sliding in and Marney jumping over with no contact?
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Post by Kjones9 on Nov 23, 2014 20:25:10 GMT
You can tell he's an uber shit ref because some of the (very) few decisions we did get we only got them because the crowd were baying for blood.
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Post by banburypotter on Nov 23, 2014 23:44:16 GMT
Very funny that and true to form - he and his friends did not let us down did not affect the result this time -even though he tried good on ya Martyn - ya bent twat ! We even lost the toss,the twat probably used a double headed coin. Clearly our fault for shouting tails then!! |
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Post by Rt Hon Reverend Luvpump on Nov 24, 2014 0:05:53 GMT
Think he's the worst ref in prem but actually thought he got the extra time right especially in the first half .
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Post by hanibal7 on Nov 24, 2014 5:17:16 GMT
I didnt see asnything in that game where Atkinson had it in for us, he should have booked Moses for diving. I think he isnt a very good ref, but would stoke time waste in that position, of course we would. About time we stopped looking for excuses,the possession we had, should have given us 3 points
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Post by f1rew0rks on Nov 24, 2014 8:05:17 GMT
I didnt see asnything in that game where Atkinson had it in for us, he should have booked Moses for diving. I think he isnt a very good ref, but would stoke time waste in that position, of course we would. About time we stopped looking for excuses,the possession we had, should have given us 3 points please remember you are on the oatcake here and stop talking complete and utter sense!! |
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Post by milfman1 on Nov 24, 2014 8:44:33 GMT
He was garbage again on Saturday
It was clearly a tactic that Burnley had been told to employ that when we where building pressure to go to ground with a mystery head injury so that the ref wud have to stop play and we loose our momentum.
Atkinson shud have booked the first Burnley player to do this, along with the keeper for time wasting and he wud have nipped it in the bud. He didn't and Burnley knew that they cud get away with it all afternoon
The ref didn't cost us the game but he was utterly wank as usual
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Post by f1rew0rks on Nov 24, 2014 9:03:29 GMT
He was garbage again on Saturday It was clearly a tactic that Burnley had been told to employ that when we where building pressure to go to ground with a mystery head injury so that the ref wud have to stop play and we loose our momentum. Atkinson shud have booked the first Burnley player to do this, along with the keeper for time wasting and he wud have nipped it in the bud. He didn't and Burnley knew that they cud get away with it all afternoon The ref didn't cost us the game but he was utterly wank as usual utter wank yes, corrupt no. As for time wasting ... Stoke City were the masters at it in the early Premiership years, it kept us up here. It's Burnleys turn now. As for shit referees, we dont complain when they give us imaginary penalties (Swansea last year), send opposition players off for perfectly fair challenges (Sunderland last year), but we are quick enough to complain when they "have it in for us". |
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Post by geoff321 on Nov 24, 2014 9:04:01 GMT
A quote from ukcstokie, " Atkinson is a decent ref. In games not involving us he's pretty decent."
Classic.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2014 11:29:06 GMT
He had to come here and clean up his act. Did not clean it up enough for me! Atkinson that is!
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Post by jcscfc on Nov 24, 2014 13:46:29 GMT
The goalkeeper time wasting was an embarrassment, it was so obvious it was it was nothing short of embarrassing. Atkinson wasn't even looking at the goal kick being taken for the majority, separating himself from the required action IMO which should have happened half an hour before it actually did. The goalkeeper can count it as 'a red card he got away with', but we all have them. My frustration came when you look at the stats from our other games where Begovic has taken goal kicks and been booked for them, there is no way that Begovic took as long as their keeper on Saturday.
The issue with Ings staying down when we were applying pressure also needs consideration. It was again, in my mind an obvious tactic. But, again they got away with it and good luck to them for it. They got away with it because the poor official who again IMO turned a very convenient blind eye. It will be highlighted for Burnley' future games which won't help us.
I know for a fact that referee's do not like coming to Stoke. A few seasons back I was told that referee's hate two grounds in the Premier League, Blackburn and Stoke.
Stoke City have a bad history with Atkinson, we have had history with other officials over the years too. All any fan asks for from any referee is consistency, no team gets that ! It takes a large number of people to make a game, players, officials, coaches and managers. IMO our manager got it wrong on a couple of issues. Why Assaidi didn't replace Moses mystified me. A player with genuine pace against a player who 'plays when he wants'. The other poor decision was to move Cameron from right back, a player who was causing problems to opposition defences raiding down the wing.
Lets not shy away from the poor mistakes made for the two goals though. Mistakes which cost us the game against a poor team. The old term 'got away with robbing a bank came to mind'. Lets just hope they other old term 'what goes around comes around' favours us in future games.
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