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Post by Deleted on Nov 23, 2014 11:04:45 GMT
I'm assuming Wilson and Pieters will be back for this one, and that Moses is fit so I would go with the following team:
Begovic
Bardsley Shawcross Wilson Pieters
Whelan N'Zonzi
Walters Bojan Moses
Diouf
Subs: Sorensen, Cameron, Muniesa, Sidwell, Adam, Arnautovic, Crouch
The one player he MUST stick with is Diouf, he looked leggy yesterday and was way of the pace (his African adventure mid week maybe?) But the key to our success away from home is our ability to counter attack at pace. If Hughes brings Crouch back can't see us threatening at all and that's no disrespect to the big man
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Post by pottersrule on Nov 23, 2014 11:14:34 GMT
I'm assuming Wilson and Pieters will be back for this one, and that Moses is fit so I would go with the following team: Begovic Bardsley Shawcross Wilson Pieters Whelan N'Zonzi Walters Bojan Moses Diouf Subs: Sorensen, Cameron, Muniesa, Sidwell, Adam, Arnautovic, Crouch The one player he MUST stick with is Diouf, he looked leggy yesterday and was way of the pace (his African adventure mid week maybe?) But the key to our success away from home is our ability to counter attack at pace. If Hughes brings Crouch back can't see us threatening at all and that's no disrespect to the big man We played a good counter attacking game,at Qpr with Crouch and Diouf playing and both scoring.
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Post by werrington on Nov 23, 2014 11:16:57 GMT
It's Walters or Crouch and not both of them as it hamstrings us going forward
I fear Moses will not be fit and Assaidi is not available for selection
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Post by scfcwebby on Nov 23, 2014 11:17:22 GMT
Begovic
Bardsley Ryan Muni Pieters
Nzonzi
Walters Moses
Bojan Crouch Diouf
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Post by Deleted on Nov 23, 2014 11:17:28 GMT
I'm assuming Wilson and Pieters will be back for this one, and that Moses is fit so I would go with the following team: Begovic Bardsley Shawcross Wilson Pieters Whelan N'Zonzi Walters Bojan Moses Diouf Subs: Sorensen, Cameron, Muniesa, Sidwell, Adam, Arnautovic, Crouch The one player he MUST stick with is Diouf, he looked leggy yesterday and was way of the pace (his African adventure mid week maybe?) But the key to our success away from home is our ability to counter attack at pace. If Hughes brings Crouch back can't see us threatening at all and that's no disrespect to the big man We played a good counter attacking game,at Qpr with Crouch and Diouf playing and both scoring. Can't drop Bojan though, and Walters is a good foil for him away from home as he gives that extra defensive edge. We'll have to defend for long periods at Anfield, Moses and Diouf out wide might be too much of a luxury...
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Post by chiefdelilah on Nov 23, 2014 11:36:27 GMT
Pieters (if fit) back in at LB, Muniesa to CB alongside Ryan.
Otherwise as you were.
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Post by werrington on Nov 23, 2014 11:39:39 GMT
Pieters (if fit) back in at LB, Muniesa to CB alongside Ryan. Otherwise as you were. As you were after yesterday you mean Rob or Prestwich team ? Whelan will definitely come back in I reckon but i'd be tempted to " get at " Liverpool and swap Sidwell for Adam ?
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Post by sheikhmomo on Nov 23, 2014 11:40:07 GMT
I think Wilson will walk straight back into the side if fit.
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Post by werrington on Nov 23, 2014 11:42:50 GMT
I think Wilson will walk straight back into the side if fit. Without a doubt mate I think as much as he's discussed on here he's one of the 1st names on Hughes team sheet
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Post by davejohnno1 on Nov 23, 2014 11:44:43 GMT
It's Walters or Crouch and not both of them as it hamstrings us going forward I fear Moses will not be fit and Assaidi is not available for selection Moses will be fit but he will be unfit again on around 60 minutes.
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Post by Sergeant Muttley on Nov 23, 2014 11:45:42 GMT
I think Wilson will walk straight back into the side if fit. Without a doubt mate I think as much as he's discussed on here he's one of the 1st names on Hughes team sheet which for me is a sad state of affairs mate but needs must.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 23, 2014 11:45:51 GMT
Pieters (if fit) back in at LB, Muniesa to CB alongside Ryan. Otherwise as you were. Muniesa definitely strikes me as a better centre back than left back. Cameron however is 100% not a centre half if anyone needed it confirming. He'll go with Wilson if fit, but I still maintain I'd like to see Muniesa for 5/6 games partnering Ryan
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Post by chiefdelilah on Nov 23, 2014 11:47:54 GMT
Pieters (if fit) back in at LB, Muniesa to CB alongside Ryan. Otherwise as you were. As you were after yesterday you mean Rob or Prestwich team ? Whelan will definitely come back in I reckon but i'd be tempted to " get at " Liverpool and swap Sidwell for Adam ? As you were after yesterday mate. I don't think Sidwell's done anything to be dropped and I think we can still get at Liverpool and stay solid in midfield like we did at Spurs. We were crap yesterday but very good with pretty much the same team in the two games before that so no need for panic stations imo.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 23, 2014 11:48:36 GMT
It's Walters or Crouch and not both of them as it hamstrings us going forward I fear Moses will not be fit and Assaidi is not available for selection Moses will be fit but he will be unfit again on around 60 minutes. Better make sure we're 2-0 up at the time then! With Sturridge out I definitely think Liverpool are there to be beaten, but unless we starting concentrating at the back we're knackered. If we get beaten by a moment of Sterling brilliance so be it, but we've got to defend like we did at Man City to have a chance...
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Post by chiefdelilah on Nov 23, 2014 11:49:03 GMT
It's Walters or Crouch and not both of them as it hamstrings us going forward I fear Moses will not be fit and Assaidi is not available for selection Moses will be fit but he will be unfit again on around 60 minutes. It's almost as if he came into the season injured and didn't have a pre-season...
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Post by sheikhmomo on Nov 23, 2014 11:49:40 GMT
I think Wilson will walk straight back into the side if fit. Without a doubt mate I think as much as he's discussed on here he's one of the 1st names on Hughes team sheet Yeah he's clearly in Hughes's current number 1 pairing. For all the stick he gets, other than Shawcross he is the defender we can least do without due to his versatility.
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Post by scfcno1fan on Nov 23, 2014 11:52:07 GMT
It's Walters or Crouch and not both of them as it hamstrings us going forward I fear Moses will not be fit and Assaidi is not available for selection Moses will be fit but he will be unfit again on around 60 minutes. He certainly does have an uncanny ability to get injured in literally every game in which he participates.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 23, 2014 11:52:38 GMT
Moses will be fit but he will be unfit again on around 60 minutes. It's almost as if he came into the season injured and didn't have a pre-season... Lack of pre-season or not it's still a concern as we come into December. If it's a recurring muscle injury it's not going to go away without a spell on the sidelines, if its general fitness he should be hitting his straps by now (to use a fast bowler analogy)...
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Post by chiswickpotter on Nov 23, 2014 12:00:46 GMT
Without a doubt mate I think as much as he's discussed on here he's one of the 1st names on Hughes team sheet which for me is a sad state of affairs mate but needs must. Hughes must be aware of his frailties but he does allow us more control of the ball when we play out, I am a Geoff fan, bought his Poppy shirt, but he is not good enough for centre back because he is poor with time to pass. Much better wide or in central midfield when he can win the ball and react without thinking
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Post by chiefdelilah on Nov 23, 2014 12:06:20 GMT
It's almost as if he came into the season injured and didn't have a pre-season... Lack of pre-season or not it's still a concern as we come into December. If it's a recurring muscle injury it's not going to go away without a spell on the sidelines, if its general fitness he should be hitting his straps by now (to use a fast bowler analogy)... It's a concern, but the implication that it's his fault or the result of him not fancying it is pretty baseless I'd say.
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Post by Sergeant Muttley on Nov 23, 2014 12:06:53 GMT
which for me is a sad state of affairs mate but needs must. Hughes must be aware of his frailties but he does allow us more control of the ball when we play out, I am a Geoff fan, bought his Poppy shirt, but he is not good enough for centre back because he is poor with time to pass. Much better wide or in central midfield when he can win the ball and react without thinking Wilson can defend brilliantly for the majority of a game but for me he's always got a mistake in him which normally costs us.If Huth gets fit we must try and reunite the partnership but it looks increasingly unlikely that will happen under Hughes.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 23, 2014 12:11:27 GMT
Lack of pre-season or not it's still a concern as we come into December. If it's a recurring muscle injury it's not going to go away without a spell on the sidelines, if its general fitness he should be hitting his straps by now (to use a fast bowler analogy)... It's a concern, but the implication that it's his fault or the result of him not fancying it is pretty baseless I'd say. I never suggested it was his fault, but it is concerning. That said, some players have the ability to play through the pain barrier more than others, Moses isn't one of them. If it's a recurring muscle injury then I can understand that I guess...
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Post by chiefdelilah on Nov 23, 2014 12:13:54 GMT
It's a concern, but the implication that it's his fault or the result of him not fancying it is pretty baseless I'd say. I never suggested it was his fault, but it is concerning. That said, some players have the ability to play through the pain barrier more than others, Moses isn't one of them. If it's a recurring muscle injury then I can understand that I guess... I know you didn't PP, but it's one of the things Johnno's taken against him for. I think there are certain things to worry about with Moses, but they can be largely overlooked at present owing to the fact that he offers a threat even when he's not at his best and we're worse than shite without him.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 23, 2014 12:16:14 GMT
I never suggested it was his fault, but it is concerning. That said, some players have the ability to play through the pain barrier more than others, Moses isn't one of them. If it's a recurring muscle injury then I can understand that I guess... I know you didn't PP, but it's one of the things Johnno's taken against him for. I think there are certain things to worry about with Moses, but they can be largely overlooked at present owing to the fact that he offers a threat even when he's not at his best and we're worse than shite without him. Agreed, without him and the likes of Diouf and Bojan we go from a counter attacking team with real pace, to a pedestrian one...
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Post by cobhamstokey on Nov 23, 2014 12:24:16 GMT
I'd go with
Bego
Bardsley Ryan Wilson or Muni Eric
NZonZi Sidwell ( thought he did ok yesterday)
Walters Bojan Moses or Arni if not fit
Diouf
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Post by davejohnno1 on Nov 23, 2014 12:26:03 GMT
I never suggested it was his fault, but it is concerning. That said, some players have the ability to play through the pain barrier more than others, Moses isn't one of them. If it's a recurring muscle injury then I can understand that I guess... I know you didn't PP, but it's one of the things Johnno's taken against him for. I think there are certain things to worry about with Moses, but they can be largely overlooked at present owing to the fact that he offers a threat even when he's not at his best and we're worse than shite without him. So his complete inability to compete for anything beyond 55 minutes doesn't annoy you then? How do you know we're worse than shite without him. He's played every league game since he's arrived. We haven't had the chance to see how we would fare without him. There are plenty of reasons to explain why people may struggle to warm to victor Moses. Fitness issues being one of them.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Nov 23, 2014 12:29:00 GMT
If Pieters is fit;
Bego
Bardsley Shawcross Muni Pieters
Whelan N'Zonzi
Walters Bojan Arnie
Diouf
That's presuming Moses is injured too.
As for Wilson, he's utter wank but Cameron is a plethora of wank. One needs to be sold, the other benched.
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Post by bazzaboy666 on Nov 23, 2014 12:31:16 GMT
Bego
Bardsley Shawcross Muniesa Posters
Adam Whelan
Moses Bojan Walters
Diouf
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Post by chiefdelilah on Nov 23, 2014 12:34:24 GMT
I know you didn't PP, but it's one of the things Johnno's taken against him for. I think there are certain things to worry about with Moses, but they can be largely overlooked at present owing to the fact that he offers a threat even when he's not at his best and we're worse than shite without him. So his complete inability to compete for anything beyond 55 minutes doesn't annoy you then? How do you know we're worse than shite without him. He's played every league game since he's arrived. We haven't had the chance to see how we would fare without him. There are plenty of reasons to explain why people may struggle to warm to victor Moses. Fitness issues being one of them. It's frustrating, I just don't think it's necessarily his fault. I don't see why people are getting pissy about him not writing off his Chelsea career either. I've seen us without him against Villa and against Hull and our attacking play with him has been light years ahead of our play without him. The fact that he's been involved in a high number of our goals this season is another clue. He's a strong contender for our player of the season thus far. I just don't see how somebody so at pains to excuse Arnie at every turn could then want to stick the boot into Moses. It can't be football related.
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Post by davejohnno1 on Nov 23, 2014 12:56:30 GMT
So his complete inability to compete for anything beyond 55 minutes doesn't annoy you then? How do you know we're worse than shite without him. He's played every league game since he's arrived. We haven't had the chance to see how we would fare without him. There are plenty of reasons to explain why people may struggle to warm to victor Moses. Fitness issues being one of them. It's frustrating, I just don't think it's necessarily his fault. I don't see why people are getting pissy about him not writing off his Chelsea career either. I've seen us without him against Villa and against Hull and our attacking play with him has been light years ahead of our play without him. The fact that he's been involved in a high number of our goals this season is another clue. He's a strong contender for our player of the season thus far. I just don't see how somebody so at pains to excuse Arnie at every turn then want to stick the boot into Moses. It can't be football related. For an intelligent bloke I often wonder if you can actually read or whether you just see what you want to see so you can debate anything and everything on here. I'm not excusing Arnie anything. He hasn't played well enough to be in the team. I have no problem with that at all. What I have a problem with is those people who watched the game yesterday and decided that our problems started yesterday with Arnie replacing Moses ad if Moses was brilliant. He wasn't. He was toss and Arnie posed way more threat than Moses had done. Like Moses his final ball was shit so treat them the same. This time last season I wad defending Arnie and his efforts yet expressing my main frustration which was his inability to compete beyond 60 minutes. St least I'm consistent with my grumblings. Most of you lot pick and choose your targets and contradict yourself to suit.
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