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Post by chuckrocky on Nov 23, 2014 15:35:04 GMT
Villa's goal was not a tap in, it was a tame shot he should of saved and the Hull goal was only a tap in because he parried the ball straight to the striker, just like he did yesterday. West Hams equaliser was another tame shot he got his hand to and should of saved. His positioning for the QPR free kick was also poor. I agree the defence don't help him one bit, but a shit defence hasn't affected him in the past. I wouldn't say he's fine at all, he's nowhere near the standard of the last couple of seasons and if a spell on the bench is what it takes to get him back to his best then surely it'd be worth doing. It was from a few yards and he's going from right to left, he probably should do better but it's tough. I don't blame him for the Hull goal, he parried it wide (where he should do) where Wilson is goal side of the striker, Wilson has to win that. West Ham's equaliser came through a load of players, he wouldn't have seen it until it was on him, no way he saves it. QPR-I agree. That and the Villa goals are the only ones I think he should save, the rest I don't especially West Ham's second, that's just ludicrous. Yes it came through a crowd of players but it wasn't a powerful shot and he got his hand to it so for me he has to save it. Would it not be for the fact that we've got a very talented and capable young goalkeeper at the club I'd stick with Begovic, but I see Butland as the long term number one at the club and in all honestly I'd rather lose Begovic in the summer than Butland.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Nov 23, 2014 15:36:14 GMT
It was from a few yards and he's going from right to left, he probably should do better but it's tough. I don't blame him for the Hull goal, he parried it wide (where he should do) where Wilson is goal side of the striker, Wilson has to win that. West Ham's equaliser came through a load of players, he wouldn't have seen it until it was on him, no way he saves it. QPR-I agree. That and the Villa goals are the only ones I think he should save, the rest I don't especially West Ham's second, that's just ludicrous. Yes it came through a crowd of players but it wasn't a powerful shot and he got his hand to it so for me he has to save it. Would it not be for the fact that we've got a very talented and capable young goalkeeper at the club I'd stick with Begovic, but I see Butland as the long term number one at the club and in all honestly I'd rather lose Begovic in the summer than Butland. Just because he's got a hand to it doesn't mean he should save it. He's seen it late and done well to get a hand on it, there's no way he should be saving it with the amount of bodies it's come through. It was quite powerful too. I disagree.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Nov 23, 2014 16:39:15 GMT
If we drop Bego we drop his value too. I think it's time to sell him in January, he's a top keeper but we have to give Butland first team football eventually and realistically Bego's probably at the peak of his career currently and worth a bit of cash! You don't go selling one of your top players in Jan unless its stupid money.
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Post by jarvinski on Nov 23, 2014 16:45:06 GMT
Face facts. Bego Conner catch
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Post by jeycov on Nov 23, 2014 17:18:08 GMT
Leicester, Villa, Hull, 2 x yesterday, West Ham so that's 6 for starters, I was exagerrating (I always do) but I just don't think there's much he could to stop many of the goals we've conceded this season. He's fine, the problems are in front of him. Villa's goal was not a tap in, it was a tame shot he should of saved and the Hull goal was only a tap in because he parried the ball straight to the striker, just like he did yesterday. West Hams equaliser was another tame shot he got his hand to and should of saved. His positioning for the QPR free kick was also poor. I agree the defence don't help him one bit, but a shit defence hasn't affected him in the past. I wouldn't say he's fine at all, he's nowhere near the standard of the last couple of seasons and if a spell on the bench is what it takes to get him back to his best then surely it'd be worth doing. However, he has made some very good saves, securing points in some of our games.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 23, 2014 17:24:29 GMT
If we drop Bego we drop his value too. I think it's time to sell him in January, he's a top keeper but we have to give Butland first team football eventually and realistically Bego's probably at the peak of his career currently and worth a bit of cash! You don't go selling one of your top players in Jan unless its stupid money. Or if you already have another top replacement in the squad.... oh look, we do! I think we should sell him in January
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Post by lordb on Nov 23, 2014 17:31:13 GMT
The goal at Hull was poor keeping,amazed Wilson got the blame. First goal yesterday was a shambles all round,including Begovic. Second he had no chance. I would stick with Begovic for now but can see the merits of a change. Maybe at Xmas time.
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Post by Fred Merger on Nov 23, 2014 17:46:15 GMT
If we drop Bego we drop his value too. I think it's time to sell him in January, he's a top keeper but we have to give Butland first team football eventually and realistically Bego's probably at the peak of his career currently and worth a bit of cash! You don't go selling one of your top players in Jan unless its stupid money. Wouldnt be at all surprised if Liverpool come calling for bego in JANUARY!SLP have stated there have already been questions about begos availability.With their desperaion increasing by the week wouldnt be surprised at a daft offer if they really want him.We have got to do something about our back four otherwise we will be in trouble!
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Post by boskampsflaps on Nov 23, 2014 17:48:06 GMT
You don't go selling one of your top players in Jan unless its stupid money. Or if you already have another top replacement in the squad.... oh look, we do! I think we should sell him in January Top replacement, hmmmmmmm, still has a lot to prove.
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Post by jeycov on Nov 23, 2014 17:52:48 GMT
Liverpool made a mistake in overpricing Assaidi and now we have him on loan
Liverpool is one of the last Premiership teams that I would like to see Bego at (he wouldn't have to move house for any of the teams in the north west)
Ask a really high price for him or loan him out?
All sorts or rumours re top European goalkeepers on the move, if he has to move on then I would like it to be abroad
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Post by chuckrocky on Nov 23, 2014 18:00:37 GMT
Villa's goal was not a tap in, it was a tame shot he should of saved and the Hull goal was only a tap in because he parried the ball straight to the striker, just like he did yesterday. West Hams equaliser was another tame shot he got his hand to and should of saved. His positioning for the QPR free kick was also poor. I agree the defence don't help him one bit, but a shit defence hasn't affected him in the past. I wouldn't say he's fine at all, he's nowhere near the standard of the last couple of seasons and if a spell on the bench is what it takes to get him back to his best then surely it'd be worth doing. However, he has made some very good saves, securing points in some of our games. I can only think of the free kick at Spurs.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 23, 2014 18:12:50 GMT
Liverpool made a mistake in overpricing Assaidi and now we have him on loan Liverpool is one of the last Premiership teams that I would like to see Bego at (he wouldn't have to move house for any of the teams in the north west) Ask a really high price for him or loan him out? All sorts or rumours re top European goalkeepers on the move, if he has to move on then I would like it to be abroad I thought we came to an agreement for a transfer fee for assaidi and he turned down the contract offered to him. As for bego, he is still the best keeper in the prem and i would not even contemplate dropping him. He will get over this supposed poor run of form and it would do more harm than good to drop him.
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