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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2014 23:54:20 GMT
I see what you mean but Bardsley was clearly injured today and was obviously the least injured of the others who were also unavailable. For me, we need defenders who do their own jobs properly. Ryan is doing the work of the whole back 4 and he can't be everywhere. We'll get nowhere with Cameron at centre half and despite all the debate around Muniesa, I think he looks weaker at left back than he's ever done at centre half. Completely agree with that - Cameron is no centre half and Muniesa is a much better centre half than left back. Muniesa's one redeeming feature is that he did put some good crosses in,unlike those who are supposed to be able to but can't
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Post by stokeramblers on Nov 22, 2014 23:57:16 GMT
no its not black or no it is not a Jaguar No it isn't black (though it could look black in certain light. Its actually dark grey) and no it isn't a jaguar. I remain intrigued as to why you would ask such a random question though? Did you think my car cost us both goals or something? 'Charcoal grey '?
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Post by davejohnno1 on Nov 23, 2014 0:00:12 GMT
No it isn't black (though it could look black in certain light. Its actually dark grey) and no it isn't a jaguar. I remain intrigued as to why you would ask such a random question though? Did you think my car cost us both goals or something? 'Charcoal grey '? Oolong grey apparently!
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Post by parttimelurker on Nov 23, 2014 0:03:58 GMT
Isn't he out of Yie Ar Kung-Fu?
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Post by davejohnno1 on Nov 23, 2014 11:14:10 GMT
What the fuck has that got to do with anything? No I don't by the way. no its not black or no it is not a Jaguar I'm still wondering what my car has to do with anything.
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Post by Northy on Nov 23, 2014 12:47:19 GMT
no its not black or no it is not a Jaguar I'm still wondering what my car has to do with anything. The only link I can think of is 'Madness' I've been driving in my car, it's not quite a Jaguar, maybe he thinks you are mad
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Post by Deleted on Nov 23, 2014 13:42:17 GMT
Bego wànk again,sell him I would seriously,he's weak as piss. fucking fool
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Post by 2004 on Nov 23, 2014 14:08:48 GMT
2 dreadful goals with errors all across the team but I'm not sure how Bego did not just gather the ball on the first one.
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Post by tazi on Nov 23, 2014 14:12:06 GMT
2 dreadful goals with errors all across the team but I'm not sure how Bego did not just gather the ball on the first one. Bego should indeed have gathered the ball especially When he's going in there anyway.
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Post by RAF on Nov 23, 2014 14:13:34 GMT
They are bloody shocking Dreadful defending again and again and again Moses - hang you head in shame What the fuck was Muniesa doing for the 2nd goal? As for Moses, the only defence is that he didn't appeal for a penalty so you could say he just fell. Its not good though and if it carries on I'd send him back before I'd sign him. Bit hypocritical of you Dave as your hero was notorious for diving and did it with regularity. But I suppose that was ok because he scored goals? H
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Post by fca47 on Nov 23, 2014 15:13:16 GMT
The defence and midfield just seem to have no sense of discipline, they all charge forward, without defensive midfield cover, it's fine when you are chasing the game, but they are ensuring we have to chase the game, by their indiscipline. I think Mark Hughes has to take some of the blame, we have improved going forward but at the cost of suicidal defending. I think we are better away, because we realise we have to defend properly , but at home they just seem to have a rush of blood to the head.
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Post by davejohnno1 on Nov 23, 2014 15:25:50 GMT
What the fuck was Muniesa doing for the 2nd goal? As for Moses, the only defence is that he didn't appeal for a penalty so you could say he just fell. Its not good though and if it carries on I'd send him back before I'd sign him. Bit hypocritical of you Dave as your hero was notorious for diving and did it with regularity. But I suppose that was ok because he scored goals? H I don't recall fuller ever going down without being touched. Drawing contact, buying time and respite is totally different to diving. Moses needs to be told its unacceptable.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Nov 23, 2014 15:26:08 GMT
Fuller dived.
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Post by RAF on Nov 23, 2014 15:33:27 GMT
Bit hypocritical of you Dave as your hero was notorious for diving and did it with regularity. But I suppose that was ok because he scored goals? H I don't recall fuller ever going down without being touched. Drawing contact, buying time and respite is totally different to diving. Moses needs to be told its unacceptable. So Moses wasn't being held by Rangel then? You don't recall Fuller diving? Fucking hell pal that really takes the biscuit! H
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Post by adamsson on Nov 23, 2014 15:41:36 GMT
Defensively we looked like relegation fodder. I've not seen us defend that badly for years. I feel like we need Liverpool to lay siege on our goal next week, defend like lions, pull out a plucky 0-0 and install a bit of confidence in our back 4. We need another top class center half Bollocks to that just stick 5 or 6 past them
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Post by davejohnno1 on Nov 23, 2014 15:47:25 GMT
I don't recall fuller ever going down without being touched. Drawing contact, buying time and respite is totally different to diving. Moses needs to be told its unacceptable. So Moses wasn't being held by Rangel then? You don't recall Fuller diving? Fucking hell pal that really takes the biscuit! H I defended Moses against Swansea. Yesterday was indefensible really even though I've tried to defend him. Reference fuller, I don't recall him going down with absolutely no contact and that is the difference. Buying the foul us different to diving hence I defended Moses b Swansea. I don't like diving whoever is doing it and I dislike feigning injury even less.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 23, 2014 15:48:18 GMT
So Moses wasn't being held by Rangel then? You don't recall Fuller diving? Fucking hell pal that really takes the biscuit! H I defended Moses against Swansea. Yesterday was indefensible really even though I've tried to defend him. Reference fuller, I don't recall him going down with absolutely no contact and that is the difference. Buying the foul us different to diving hence I defended Moses b Swansea. I don't like diving whoever is doing it and I dislike feigning injury even less. Dislike less = like more?
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Post by adamsson on Nov 23, 2014 15:50:30 GMT
2 dreadful goals with errors all across the team but I'm not sure how Bego did not just gather the ball on the first one. Arnie clearly at fault for both goals
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Post by RAF on Nov 23, 2014 16:10:23 GMT
So Moses wasn't being held by Rangel then? You don't recall Fuller diving? Fucking hell pal that really takes the biscuit! H I defended Moses against Swansea. Yesterday was indefensible really even though I've tried to defend him. Reference fuller, I don't recall him going down with absolutely no contact and that is the difference. Buying the foul us different to diving hence I defended Moses b Swansea. I don't like diving whoever is doing it and I dislike feigning injury even less. Ive seen Fuller dive loads of times in various ways with or without contact, it didnt make me love him any less. All this holier than though send him back we dont want divers at our club is utter dog shit! Most players dive at some time or other. H
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Post by Squeekster on Nov 23, 2014 16:14:08 GMT
Fuller was embarrassing for the first few months for diving until Tone sorted him out.
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Post by andrewguk on Nov 23, 2014 19:23:21 GMT
No it isn't black (though it could look black in certain light. Its actually dark grey) and no it isn't a jaguar. I remain intrigued as to why you would ask such a random question though? Did you think my car cost us both goals or something? 'Charcoal grey '? It was definitely ocean grey. Or was it military grey?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 23, 2014 20:05:06 GMT
Just watched them again on Goals On Sunday. The first one was bad, the second, made me feel sick, it was pathetic.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 23, 2014 20:49:23 GMT
I've only just watched them. My god. Yesterday I called muniesa every name under the sun for the first goal, I still stand by that but begovic has to do better. The second goal Jesus christ I don't know where to begin. Bardsley diving in, ryan on the half way line and don't get me started on what cameron was doing?? One huge clusterfuck
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Post by jarhead on Nov 23, 2014 21:07:06 GMT
2 dreadful goals with errors all across the team but I'm not sure how Bego did not just gather the ball on the first one. Spot on. He's been at fault for a few goals for me. Stokiepm89 Wake up you tit! Do you think Bego has been great this season and not been at fault for ANY of the goals ??? Dream on prick
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Post by jarhead on Nov 23, 2014 21:08:28 GMT
I've only just watched them. My god. Yesterday I called muniesa every name under the sun for the first goal, I still stand by that but begovic has to do better. The second goal Jesus christ I don't know where to begin. Bardsley diving in, ryan on the half way line and don't get me started on what cameron was doing?? One huge clusterfuck Unbeliveable Geoff
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Post by boskampsflaps on Nov 23, 2014 21:22:25 GMT
Completely agree with that - Cameron is no centre half and Muniesa is a much better centre half than left back. The riddle of Cameron continues. He looks the part and yet there is no position on the pitch where he seems capable. Its become much less of a riddle with each passing game.
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