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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2014 21:48:05 GMT
This is my theory - The only way Burnley were going to win today was to score first. If Stoke had scored first then they would have had to open up in defence and push forward, and we would have won handsomely.
I feel they had to score first half as they lack any real confidence away from home, so I felt they had to score playing towards their fans.
Therefore the vital part of their plan was to WIN THE TOSS and therefore play towards their fans first half. If we had won the toss we would have won.
Sounds daft I know but this gave them their best chance of winning.
To compound that we should have played more carefully for the first half hour. I knew if we scored first it was just a matter of how many. We therefore needed to ensure defence was sound and we didn't make any daft mistakes. Half time 0-0 wouldn't have been a disaster. We needed to be patient.
Final mistake was not to replace Moses with Assaidi. We needed someone who could find Peter Crouch's head. Arnie is not playing well and thrives on confidence - which he doesn't possess at present.
To sum up - I feel against the so called lesser clubs we need to be far more patient. Lesser teams come to defend here and we must realize that there is 90 minutes to try and win the game.
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Post by sportsman on Nov 22, 2014 21:50:00 GMT
Bloody kightly switching ends.
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Post by davejohnno1 on Nov 22, 2014 21:51:43 GMT
Shawcross lost the toss?
He really is a shit captain. Strip him of the armband and give it to Cameron.
Fuck that, just drop him.
Forget that, sell the useless twat!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2014 21:52:47 GMT
Shawcross lost the toss? He really is a shit captain. Strip him of the armband and give it to Cameron. Fuck that, just drop him. Forget that, sell the useless twat! Is it just me or is everyone on some kind of twisted, pseudo-sarcastic meltdown tonight? Either way, pour me another one. I'm camped in for the night. |
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Post by ihaveadream on Nov 24, 2014 13:47:36 GMT
I think playing the wrong way round jinxes us
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Post by ChesterStokie on Nov 24, 2014 13:55:26 GMT
I think there is something in this.
In the 2nd half the Boothen was really quiet. If we had been attacking the Boothen in the 2nd half and putting Burnley under that much pressure then the place would have been rocking and that probably would have made the difference.
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Post by tazi on Nov 24, 2014 14:05:11 GMT
The opposition if they win the toss are always going to make us swap ends because however small that it may be its a phycological strategy.
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Post by metalhead on Nov 24, 2014 14:06:06 GMT
I reckon we lost because Burnley scored 2 goals, and Stoke scored 1.
But don't quote me on that.
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Post by tazi on Nov 24, 2014 14:09:43 GMT
I reckon we lost because Burnley scored 2 goals, and Stoke scored 1. But don't quote me on that. What a load of bollocks. |
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Post by metalhead on Nov 24, 2014 14:18:57 GMT
I reckon we lost because Burnley scored 2 goals, and Stoke scored 1. But don't quote me on that. What a load of bollocks. Which part? |
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Post by tazi on Nov 24, 2014 14:27:56 GMT
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Post by st3mark on Nov 24, 2014 14:28:02 GMT
We lost because we were toss.
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Post by metalhead on Nov 24, 2014 14:53:06 GMT
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Post by tazi on Nov 24, 2014 14:57:53 GMT
Sorry mate, my idea of a joke. |
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Post by 2004 on Nov 24, 2014 16:12:44 GMT
I hate it when we shoot towards the Boothen end first half.
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Post by Malcolm Clarke on Nov 24, 2014 16:38:51 GMT
The opposition if they win the toss are always going to make us swap ends because however small that it may be its a phycological strategy. One would think that, but, if so, we would play towards the Boothen first in 50% of the games, but the % is clearly much less than that, from which it must be assumed that a lot of visiting captains also like playing towards their own fans in the 2nd half. |
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Post by tazi on Nov 24, 2014 16:41:09 GMT
The opposition if they win the toss are always going to make us swap ends because however small that it may be its a phycological strategy. One would think that, but, if so, we would play towards the Boothen first in 50% of the games, but the % is clearly much less than that, from which it must be assumed that a lot of visiting captains also like playing towards their own fans in the 2nd half. Good point. |
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Post by salopstick on Nov 24, 2014 16:43:37 GMT
The pitch looked shit as well
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Post by nott1 on Nov 24, 2014 18:24:06 GMT
We should re-design the ground and make two Boothen Ends.That would fool 'em.
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Post by tazi on Nov 24, 2014 18:27:43 GMT
Away supporters should be moved to one side of the ground.
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Nov 24, 2014 18:40:09 GMT
Delete the We lost the.  |
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Post by homer32 on Nov 24, 2014 19:13:46 GMT
They won the toss and rightly put Bego in the goal facing the sun.I think it caused his error with the first goal so good decision on their behalf.Bego's goal was in the shade after 20 mins but it was too late then, the damage had been done.So yes losing the toss cost us the game.
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Post by tazi on Nov 24, 2014 19:20:14 GMT
Maybe if we'd started off giving a toss then maybe it wouldn't have mattered the toss about the toss. Just a thought about a toss that could have led to our loss.
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Post by passtheoatcakes on Nov 24, 2014 20:20:15 GMT
Away supporters should be moved to one side of the ground. Agreed taz, like Wolves, dissipate the power of the crowd by stringing it down one side of the pitch. Regarding the coin toss, second half normally sees us shooting towards the Boothen so Malcolm is spot on with his theory in my view. Plus I am with taking it steady, it took Arsenal 70+ mins to break Burnley down. We needed to be patient on Saturday, both the team and the crowd. But we expect to batter them, come streaming forward and pay the price handsomely.... |
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Post by tazi on Nov 24, 2014 20:36:55 GMT
Away supporters should be moved to one side of the ground. Agreed taz, like Wolves, dissipate the power of the crowd by stringing it down one side of the pitch. Regarding the coin toss, second half normally sees us shooting towards the Boothen so Malcolm is spot on with his theory in my view. Plus I am with taking it steady, it took Arsenal 70+ mins to break Burnley down. We needed to be patient on Saturday, both the team and the crowd. But we expect to batter them, come streaming forward and pay the price handsomely.... Indeed Malcolm is spot on with his theory. We need to learn and learn quick on how to break teams down at the Brit or at the very least not looking as though we are going to concede at every opportunity but unfortunately I don't even see any small steps whatsoever in addressing these problems. |
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Post by blackpoolred on Nov 24, 2014 23:39:57 GMT
This is my theory - The only way Burnley were going to win today was to score first. If Stoke had scored first then they would have had to open up in defence and push forward, and we would have won handsomely. I feel they had to score first half as they lack any real confidence away from home, so I felt they had to score playing towards their fans. Therefore the vital part of their plan was to WIN THE TOSS and therefore play towards their fans first half. If we had won the toss we would have won. Sounds daft I know but this gave them their best chance of winning. To compound that we should have played more carefully for the first half hour. I knew if we scored first it was just a matter of how many. We therefore needed to ensure defence was sound and we didn't make any daft mistakes. Half time 0-0 wouldn't have been a disaster. We needed to be patient. Final mistake was not to replace Moses with Assaidi. We needed someone who could find Peter Crouch's head. Arnie is not playing well and thrives on confidence - which he doesn't possess at present. To sum up - I feel against the so called lesser clubs we need to be far more patient. Lesser teams come to defend here and we must realize that there is 90 minutes to try and win the game.  But we were attacking in front of our fans in the first half, just as their nervous back four were defending in front of our fans in the first half |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 25, 2014 23:29:26 GMT
I've analysed the figures;
Playing towards Boothen Ends second half - wins 54%, draws 27%, defeats - the rest!
Playing towards away supporters second half - wins 39%, draws 38%, defeats - the rest
There you have it in a nutshell. We need to win the toss!
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Post by terryconroyslegs on Nov 25, 2014 23:37:12 GMT
Our future in the Premier League appears to rest on the toss of a coin. We`re doomed. Bugger, enjoyed it whilst it lasted. Bournemouth are destined to replace us.
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