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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2014 19:11:07 GMT
We have some supporters that just want to see 11 straight line runners for 90 minutes. We have fans that can't accept a manager trying to play football on financial scraps. We have fans that can't get it into their thick skulls that top quality attacking players cost fortunes we no longer have. We have fans that don't understand that cheap attacking players with supreme skill are probably broken in some way and that it might not work out in the long run or that there will be ups and downs along the way. When we are paying g out 40M for flair players that dont perform I'll join the witch hunt. When we are expecting them for 2.5M I'll back him and the manager to the hilt. So you expect shit? So you think that was acceptable? Because we paid next to nothing? Ok mate then you carry on. Where did i say i expected shit?
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Post by kaney78 on Nov 22, 2014 19:11:38 GMT
Can't blame him for the loss.but as soon as I saw him coming on i didn't hold much hope for a result.whenever I've watched him more often than not he's appeared lazy and i might be wrong but thinks he's better than he is.
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Post by wuzza on Nov 22, 2014 19:12:47 GMT
How you can bring Walters into this is beyond belief!
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Post by Sergeant Muttley on Nov 22, 2014 19:13:09 GMT
Arnie's whole demeanour is wrong for me,from arriving at the ground to coming onto the pitch its just not right.Yes he's a very talented player on his day but those days are few and far between.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2014 19:13:24 GMT
Another Arnie apologist strikes I'm not an apologist for anything or anyone. Arnie caused them problems and like his teammates, his final delivery was toss. Moses was toss today but Arnie is the easy target. How bad was Walters? Cameron? Crouch? Moses? Walters is in much better form. Didn't do much wrong today pal. Care to share the review from your eyes?
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Post by chiefdelilah on Nov 22, 2014 19:14:28 GMT
Moses wasn't at his best but he was a threat and we were a damn sight more dangerous with him than without him.
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Post by Pugsley on Nov 22, 2014 19:15:36 GMT
Moses wasn't at his best but he was a threat and we were a damn sight more dangerous with him than without him. If anyone was lazy today it was Victor. Been outstanding this season but very very poor today. Left Muniesa exposed the whole time he was on.
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Post by chiefdelilah on Nov 22, 2014 19:17:06 GMT
Moses wasn't at his best but he was a threat and we were a damn sight more dangerous with him than without him. If anyone was lazy today it was Victor. Been outstanding this season but very very poor today. Left Muniesa exposed the whole time he was on. He didn't look interested at first but he had the beating of his man and they were shit scared of him. Had he not got injured I think we'd have snatched a draw at least.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2014 19:17:50 GMT
Moses wasn't at his best but he was a threat and we were a damn sight more dangerous with him than without him. If anyone was lazy today it was Victor. Been outstanding this season but very very poor today. Left Muniesa exposed the whole time he was on. Didn't Moses force the excellent save from their keeper first half?
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Post by Jamo on the wing on Nov 22, 2014 19:21:39 GMT
If anyone was lazy today it was Victor. Been outstanding this season but very very poor today. Left Muniesa exposed the whole time he was on. He didn't look interested at first but he had the beating of his man and they were shit scared of him. Had he not got injured I think we'd have snatched a draw at least. I'm convinced of that too, Rob. The only good stuff out wide came from him really. Arnie showed some great first touches but his second and third ones were mostly wank.
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Post by tazi on Nov 22, 2014 19:24:23 GMT
If a footballer is going to be hurt because someone is slaughtering them on a footballing message board really does need to take a reality check. Myself I think he's stealing a living and deserves any shit that may come his way because there are plenty of people 'myself included' that pay good money to watch his woeful performances whilst having to work a bloody lifetime and a half to earn what he does in a year. Don't pay and don't go. Â Nobody is making you. Do you sit there and slaughter him today? Â If so you must have laid into Diouf, Walters, Crouch, Moses who were all diabolical. Well I do decide to go so therefore I pay and that entitles me to call it as I see it. Myself I don't slaughter any player during a match 'never have done never will do' instead I support and encourage them. If I then think they've been fcuking shite afterwards I'll call it as such.
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Post by wuzza on Nov 22, 2014 19:25:57 GMT
Moses always looks dangerous but I have to admit I am becoming a bit dubious as to his end product - he did force one good save but I'm not even certain a shot was the best option in that situation.
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Post by davejohnno1 on Nov 22, 2014 19:26:56 GMT
I'm not an apologist for anything or anyone. Arnie caused them problems and like his teammates, his final delivery was toss. Moses was toss today but Arnie is the easy target. How bad was Walters? Cameron? Crouch? Moses? Walters is in much better form. Didn't do much wrong today pal. Care to share the review from your eyes? Not really no. Walters was in form and was worth his place as a result. Today he was anonymous and a complete passenger. The comeback will be that he scored and that he did but it was a sitter of an header that he nearly missed and ultimately should have been saved. What did he create? What problems did he cause? Nothing and none are the answers you're looking for. Still, slate Arnie. Its easy to do and not really surprising.
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Post by Pugsley on Nov 22, 2014 19:28:14 GMT
Moses always looks dangerous but I have to admit I am becoming a bit dubious as to his end product - he did force one good save but I'm not even certain a shot was the best option in that situation. I think he keeps hold of it too long. He notorious for his inconsistency.
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Post by davejohnno1 on Nov 22, 2014 19:29:25 GMT
Moses always looks dangerous but I have to admit I am becoming a bit dubious as to his end product - he did force one good save but I'm not even certain a shot was the best option in that situation. He doesn't have an end product. Consistently chooses the wrong option and delivers little. Causes problems with strength and pace but has zero intelligence and little end product.
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Post by chiefdelilah on Nov 22, 2014 19:30:59 GMT
I seem to recall four of his crosses producing goals already this season and a run and pass leading to a goal at Sunderland.
Would you play Arnie over Moses at the minute Dave?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2014 19:31:33 GMT
Moses always looks dangerous but I have to admit I am becoming a bit dubious as to his end product - he did force one good save but I'm not even certain a shot was the best option in that situation. I think he keeps hold of it too long. He notorious for his inconsistency. Hence my point above about attacking players bought on a shoestring. For clubs like us there will be something wrong with them be it strength, consistency, final ball, work rate, attitude etc. There is no silver bullet for a club like us unless we suddenly get a sugar daddy. Any player that finds consistency or massively improves in a number of attributes will be sold and the cycle restarted.
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Post by Olgrligm on Nov 22, 2014 19:32:36 GMT
Moses' problem is that he's happier beating his man over and over again than he is putting a decent ball in. It's frustrating. He can produce a decent end product, but he just didn't today, whereas Arnie did.
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Post by paulinespens on Nov 22, 2014 19:33:11 GMT
Can't blame him for the loss.but as soon as I saw him coming on i didn't hold much hope for a result.whenever I've watched him more often than not he's appeared lazy and i might be wrong but thinks he's better than he is. he's a white Baloteli,more interested in how he looks than anything else. Defo thinks he is some footballing genius. i think hes wank and will be gone as soon as an offer comes in.Dont know who would want him though.
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Post by tazi on Nov 22, 2014 19:35:22 GMT
Can't blame him for the loss.but as soon as I saw him coming on i didn't hold much hope for a result.whenever I've watched him more often than not he's appeared lazy and i might be wrong but thinks he's better than he is. he's a white Baloteli,more interested in how he looks than anything else. Defo thinks he is some footballing genius. i think hes wank and will be gone as soon as an offer comes in.Dont know who would want him though. Stealing a fcuking living.
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Post by upthefud on Nov 22, 2014 19:37:23 GMT
Walters is in much better form. Didn't do much wrong today pal. Care to share the review from your eyes? Not really no. Walters was in form and was worth his place as a result. Today he was anonymous and a complete passenger. The comeback will be that he scored and that he did but it was a sitter of an header that he nearly missed and ultimately should have been saved. What did he create? What problems did he cause? Nothing and none are the answers you're looking for. Still, slate Arnie. Its easy to do and not really surprising. I can't even be arsed to reply to that. Utterly ridiculously
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2014 19:40:20 GMT
Walters is in much better form. Didn't do much wrong today pal. Care to share the review from your eyes? Not really no. Walters was in form and was worth his place as a result. Today he was anonymous and a complete passenger. The comeback will be that he scored and that he did but it was a sitter of an header that he nearly missed and ultimately should have been saved. What did he create? What problems did he cause? Nothing and none are the answers you're looking for. Still, slate Arnie. Its easy to do and not really surprising. Ha!! Ask yourself the same questions about Arnie... Still slate Walters its easy to do and not really surprising.... You state the SJW header was a sitter! I thought it was a diving header myself with lots of power that broke the keepers grasp. I could be mistaken. Im finding it hard to see what your trying to point out? Arnie is a better player that SJW? Certainly didnt look it today. Using your words again "Today he was anonymous and a complete passenger" I really want to see a decent Arnie pulling the strings down that left hand side. Its just not happening for him here is it? Its pointless trying to defend the guy the thinks he is 10 times better than he actually is. Shame.
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Post by paulinespens on Nov 22, 2014 19:41:25 GMT
he's a white Baloteli,more interested in how he looks than anything else. Defo thinks he is some footballing genius. i think hes wank and will be gone as soon as an offer comes in.Dont know who would want him though. Stealing a fcuking living. the amount of folk on here that think hes the best thing since sliced bread need a word in their ear.he's had one decent game for me(away at manure) and thats it. fuck him off promto i say.
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Post by march4 on Nov 22, 2014 19:42:27 GMT
I feared Arnie's form would drop when silly Mario rocked up to play in this country.
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Post by tazi on Nov 22, 2014 19:43:17 GMT
Stealing a fcuking living. the amount of folk on here that think hes the best thing since sliced bread need a word in their ear.he's had one decent game for me(away at manure) and thats it. fuck him off promto i say. Hopefully he'll be gone in Jan but same as you say who the fcuk will take him?.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2014 19:43:22 GMT
Stealing a fcuking living. the amount of folk on here that think hes the best thing since sliced bread need a word in their ear.he's had one decent game for me(away at manure) and thats it. fuck him off promto i say. Kightly MK2 !!!
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Post by paulinespens on Nov 22, 2014 19:45:12 GMT
Moses' problem is that he's happier beating his man over and over again than he is putting a decent ball in. It's frustrating. He can produce a decent end product, but he just didn't today, whereas Arnie did. arnie over hit every cross he put in today.
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Post by Pugsley on Nov 22, 2014 19:46:32 GMT
Moses' problem is that he's happier beating his man over and over again than he is putting a decent ball in. It's frustrating. He can produce a decent end product, but he just didn't today, whereas Arnie did. arnie over hit every cross he put in today. Carry on making shit up mate if it makes you feel better.
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Post by stokiejoe on Nov 22, 2014 19:48:34 GMT
Nor one the best performances by Arnie but given he has only had twenty minutes play with Stoke in the last few it was to be expected. It would have been difficult for anyone to come in at that stage.
Having said that we had 25 goal attempts with 4 on target and 1 goal. They had 4 attempts, 4 on target 2 goals. We had plenty of time to get a second and third goal. First thing Adam did was fall over. Nzonzi had another great chance and blasted over. They defended well, we would have been proud of that.We were far too complacent in the first twenty minutes and deservedly got punished for it. Time for the riot act to be read by Hughes, he of all people should know what it takes to shoot on target.
Really, really annoyed with that performance.
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Post by paulinespens on Nov 22, 2014 19:50:16 GMT
Moses' problem is that he's happier beating his man over and over again than he is putting a decent ball in. It's frustrating. He can produce a decent end product, but he just didn't today, whereas Arnie did. beating your man over and over again,sounds like Peter Beagrie to me,Arnie aint fit to lace PB's boots.
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