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Post by pottersrule on Nov 20, 2014 11:07:39 GMT
For those interested Mama Sidibe reflects on his rise from humble beginnings to the Premier league
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Post by 2004 on Nov 20, 2014 13:54:08 GMT
Wonderful man
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Post by jarhead on Nov 20, 2014 14:38:05 GMT
Tony saved him from a career on The Blackpool Pleasure beach!
Only Tony could eh jesus.
:-)
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Post by boskampsflaps on Nov 20, 2014 14:43:31 GMT
The book not selling well?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 20, 2014 15:41:07 GMT
Legend. If some of our modern day "superstars" showed a tenth of his heart and desire their game would be all the better for it. Absolute gentleman as well, not sure how any Stoke fan could say a bad word about him to be fair, cost us nowt and sweated blood for the club when called upon.....
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Post by pez75 on Nov 20, 2014 16:01:19 GMT
Legend. If some of our modern day "superstars" showed a tenth of his heart and desire their game would be all the better for it. Absoliute gentleman as well, not sure how any Stoke fan could say a bad word about him to be fair, cost us nowt and sweated blood for the club when called upon..... Really?? I just don't agree, sorry. He was a very limited player who nonetheless had an important job to do due to the manager's tactics. He was part of a team that bought us success so praise and respect is due, but 'legend'??? Not in my eyes. Not so sure I ever saw him sweat blood either... |
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Post by 2004 on Nov 20, 2014 16:17:19 GMT
Legend. If some of our modern day "superstars" showed a tenth of his heart and desire their game would be all the better for it. Absoliute gentleman as well, not sure how any Stoke fan could say a bad word about him to be fair, cost us nowt and sweated blood for the club when called upon..... Really?? I just don't agree, sorry. He was a very limited player who nonetheless had an important job to do due to the manager's tactics. He was part of a team that bought us success so praise and respect is due, but 'legend'??? Not in my eyes. Not so sure I ever saw him sweat blood either... Rubbish |
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Post by fca47 on Nov 20, 2014 16:19:46 GMT
Nice man and always gave his best, respect is due.
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Post by pottersrule on Nov 20, 2014 16:27:06 GMT
The book not selling well? Watched an earlier showing this afternoon and your quite right there is a bit of emphasis on promoting the book.However it was worth watching in my opinion. Mama's book will never sell that well because he is too nice.If he had been a Vinnie Jones type then they would sell like hot cakes |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 20, 2014 16:39:32 GMT
Legend. If some of our modern day "superstars" showed a tenth of his heart and desire their game would be all the better for it. Absoliute gentleman as well, not sure how any Stoke fan could say a bad word about him to be fair, cost us nowt and sweated blood for the club when called upon..... Really?? I just don't agree, sorry. He was a very limited player who nonetheless had an important job to do due to the manager's tactics. He was part of a team that bought us success so praise and respect is due, but 'legend'??? Not in my eyes. Not so sure I ever saw him sweat blood either...Apologies I'll remember to take everything everyone says or types literally going forward....  |
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Post by jeycov on Nov 20, 2014 17:30:05 GMT
Very moving interview - good luck to him in his new venture
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Post by pottersrule on Nov 20, 2014 18:57:39 GMT
Very moving interview - good luck to him in his new venture Those injuries obviously had a profound affect on him,and was sad to see recalling them still reduced him to tears. |
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Post by swipers on Nov 20, 2014 19:55:29 GMT
Is it on again as I missed it? Had a look through planner and on demand but can't see it anywhere obvious?
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Post by swipers on Nov 20, 2014 19:56:15 GMT
Found it.... Barclays Premier League World
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Post by davejohnno1 on Nov 20, 2014 20:07:11 GMT
Legend. If some of our modern day "superstars" showed a tenth of his heart and desire their game would be all the better for it. Absoliute gentleman as well, not sure how any Stoke fan could say a bad word about him to be fair, cost us nowt and sweated blood for the club when called upon..... Really?? I just don't agree, sorry. He was a very limited player who nonetheless had an important job to do due to the manager's tactics. He was part of a team that bought us success so praise and respect is due, but 'legend'??? Not in my eyes. Not so sure I ever saw him sweat blood either... To varying degrees, every player that was involved in getting us back to the top flight and then helping us to stay there in that first season, are legends, including Mama! |
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Post by Claus_SCFC on Nov 21, 2014 6:14:42 GMT
Seems to be such a nice guy, doesn't he?
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Post by pez75 on Nov 21, 2014 14:53:19 GMT
Really?? I just don't agree, sorry. He was a very limited player who nonetheless had an important job to do due to the manager's tactics. He was part of a team that bought us success so praise and respect is due, but 'legend'??? Not in my eyes. Not so sure I ever saw him sweat blood either... To varying degrees, every player that was involved in getting us back to the top flight and then helping us to stay there in that first season, are legends, including Mama! Who? Pericard? Sweeney? Sonko? Kitson? No chance. I understand your overall sentiment, but the word 'legend' is used all too freely in footy nowadays. Mama will be remembered fondly by this current generation of Stokies, but those that call him a legend do not know what the word means IMO. |
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Post by pez75 on Nov 21, 2014 14:56:55 GMT
Really?? I just don't agree, sorry. He was a very limited player who nonetheless had an important job to do due to the manager's tactics. He was part of a team that bought us success so praise and respect is due, but 'legend'??? Not in my eyes. Not so sure I ever saw him sweat blood either...Apologies I'll remember to take everything everyone says or types literally going forward.... Meh. I meant it the same way you did. Do you really think he put in any more effort or commitment than the other players? With the odd possible exception I doubt it - Pulis would never have stood for it. We were known for little else in them days. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2014 15:52:19 GMT
Apologies I'll remember to take everything everyone says or types literally going forward.... Meh. I meant it the same way you did. Do you really think he put in any more effort or commitment than the other players? With the odd possible exception I doubt it - Pulis would never have stood for it. We were known for little else in them days. Played through the pain barrier on several occasions for the club, I actually think he did yes. Not saying the other players weren't committed, but where some would possibly err on the side of caution when injured Sidibe would be out there..... |
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Post by pez75 on Nov 21, 2014 16:57:04 GMT
Meh. I meant it the same way you did. Do you really think he put in any more effort or commitment than the other players? With the odd possible exception I doubt it - Pulis would never have stood for it. We were known for little else in them days. Played through the pain barrier on several occasions for the club, I actually think he did yes. Not saying the other players weren't committed, but where some would possibly err on the side of caution when injured Sidibe would be out there..... Not looking for a tennis match argument here, I just dont remember it that way myself. The majority of our players in the team in those days were Championship/lower Prem standard and along with TP's organisation/tactics had to give everything to compete. Sidibe was no exception, but neither was he some above and beyond hero. I don't remember him playing despite carrying any specific injuries? I do remember the two bad injuries he got, but the the club/TP stood by him and treated him better than most players would expect. |
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Post by thestatusquo on Nov 21, 2014 17:08:40 GMT
Mama was pivotal to our eventual promotion but too but him in the legend class is a bit of a stretch. That would put him in the same class as Mathews and Banks who are legends.
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Post by Olgrligm on Nov 21, 2014 17:09:23 GMT
Played through the pain barrier on several occasions for the club, I actually think he did yes. Not saying the other players weren't committed, but where some would possibly err on the side of caution when injured Sidibe would be out there..... Not looking for a tennis match argument here, I just dont remember it that way myself. The majority of our players in the team in those days were Championship/lower Prem standard and along with TP's organisation/tactics had to give everything to compete. Sidibe was no exception, but neither was he some above and beyond hero. I don't remember him playing despite carrying any specific injuries? I do remember the two bad injuries he got, but the the club/TP stood by him and treated him better than most players would expect. During the second Prem season, the combined idiocy of Beattie and Kitson meant that we had Mama playing virtually every game for quite a while despite clearly being a mile off being fit, which eventually resulted in him doing his Achilles again. |
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Post by davejohnno1 on Nov 21, 2014 17:37:50 GMT
To varying degrees, every player that was involved in getting us back to the top flight and then helping us to stay there in that first season, are legends, including Mama! Who? Pericard? Sweeney? Sonko? Kitson? No chance. I understand your overall sentiment, but the word 'legend' is used all too freely in footy nowadays. Mama will be remembered fondly by this current generation of Stokies, but those that call him a legend do not know what the word means IMO. Pericard, Sweeney and sonko played either no part or no positive part of either our promotion or survival. Others, such as mama will be fondly remembered and in years to come will be given great receptions by supporters who never saw them play. For those players, that makes them, in varying degrees, legends. People will talk for years to come about mama's goal v villa and without looking people will think there must have been 100,000 people in attendance that day. Mama is a legend in his own right and an important player in the history of our club. |
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Post by wuzza on Nov 21, 2014 18:23:26 GMT
Apart from the various arguments about his playing ability (and he was a lot better than some gave him credit for) is it wrong or 'uncool' just to recognise he was a very decent human being who represented our club magnificently when coming into contact with us supporters and who adopted a humble and enthusiastic approach to his profession?
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Post by foxysgloves on Nov 21, 2014 18:29:30 GMT
Who? Pericard? Sweeney? Sonko? Kitson? No chance. I understand your overall sentiment, but the word 'legend' is used all too freely in footy nowadays. Mama will be remembered fondly by this current generation of Stokies, but those that call him a legend do not know what the word means IMO. Pericard, Sweeney and sonko played either no part or no positive part of either our promotion or survival. Others, such as mama will be fondly remembered and in years to come will be given great receptions by supporters who never saw them play. For those players, that makes them, in varying degrees, legends. People will talk for years to come about mama's goal v villa and without looking people will think there must have been 100,000 people in attendance that day. Mama is a legend in his own right and an important player in the history of our club. Well said. We had long enough without genuine heroes.....now we have plenty of serious candidates it pisses me right off when we play them down. Mama Sidibe deserves every bit of praise and recognition he gets. |
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Post by Pugsley on Nov 21, 2014 18:30:55 GMT
Apart from the various arguments about his playing ability (and he was a lot better than some gave him credit for) is it wrong or 'uncool' just to recognise he was a very decent human being who represented our club magnificently when coming into contact with us supporters and who adopted a humble and enthusiastic approach to his profession? I questioned his ability and selection on many occasions. What can't be questioned was his effort, commitment and what a top bloke he is. |
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