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Post by boskampsflaps on Nov 16, 2014 21:31:09 GMT
I admire your loyalty and dedication to the cause if nothing else USA. You're dedication to Geoff Cameron is close to overtaking Rossi's love and dedication to all things Tuncay! Well when you're defending players from stupid accusations like chesterfield's last week and ever since the ppor guy's first debut from the gatekeeprs of the oatcake you would. He's still here, ala as I have for Muniesa, Arnie and Crouch... But Geoff's special because of the vitriol from the irish brigade... Muniesa is my favorite player anyways ever since he came from Barca and fastly Bojan. Tired of skilled players getting stuck behind cloggers who can't dribble in our side, were getting there. Irish brigade, ehh?
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Post by boskampsflaps on Nov 16, 2014 21:32:50 GMT
Do you right fictional novels? Because I never said that lol. I'll write you a 3 blind mice novel staring you, Boskamps and benji. You'll have to make it 4, don't forget to include Hughes who dropped him like a stone the first chance he got.
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Post by stokemanusa on Nov 16, 2014 21:33:03 GMT
Well when you're defending players from stupid accusations like chesterfield's last week and ever since the ppor guy's first debut from the gatekeeprs of the oatcake you would. He's still here, ala as I have for Muniesa, Arnie and Crouch... But Geoff's special because of the vitriol from the irish brigade... Muniesa is my favorite player anyways ever since he came from Barca and fastly Bojan. Tired of skilled players getting stuck behind cloggers who can't dribble in our side, were getting there. Irish brigade, ehh? Yea, the Walters, Whelan and Wilson can do no wrong fanboys such as yourself.
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Post by stokemanusa on Nov 16, 2014 21:33:52 GMT
I'll write you a 3 blind mice novel staring you, Boskamps and benji. You'll have to make it 4, don't forget to include Hughes who dropped him like a stone the first chance he got. The same Hughes who keeps throwing him in a position he doesn't want to play... and still performs admirably for us?
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Post by chesterfieldstokie on Nov 16, 2014 21:36:01 GMT
You'll have to make it 4, don't forget to include Hughes who dropped him like a stone the first chance he got. The same Hughes who keep throwing in a position he doesn't want to play... and still performs admirably for us? Like Klinsmann did when he played him in his 'preferred position'
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Post by boskampsflaps on Nov 16, 2014 21:36:20 GMT
Yea, the Walters, Whelan and Wilson can do no wrong fanboys such as yourself. Haha, okay, when have I said they can do no wrong, of course they can, you do like to make things up.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Nov 16, 2014 21:37:30 GMT
You'll have to make it 4, don't forget to include Hughes who dropped him like a stone the first chance he got. The same Hughes who keeps throwing him in a position he doesn't want to play... and still performs admirably for us? Not through choice though is it, if it wasn't for injuries/lack of options he wouldn't be anywhere near rb.
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Post by stokemanusa on Nov 16, 2014 21:37:45 GMT
The same Hughes who keep throwing in a position he doesn't want to play... and still performs admirably for us? Like Klinsmann did when he played him in his 'preferred position' There you go again, international form. Must be caught out. If that's the case he'd be Scotland's #1...
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Post by boskampsflaps on Nov 16, 2014 21:37:50 GMT
Anyway, back to Wilson....................................
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Post by stokemanusa on Nov 16, 2014 21:39:31 GMT
The same Hughes who keeps throwing him in a position he doesn't want to play... and still performs admirably for us? Not through choice though is it, if it wasn't for injuries/lack of options he wouldn't be anywhere near rb. Same for Wilson at CB... Poor Huth.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Nov 16, 2014 21:42:54 GMT
Not through choice though is it, if it wasn't for injuries/lack of options he wouldn't be anywhere near rb. Same for Wilson at CB... Poor Huth. Not quite, Muni could always have played instead.
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Post by stokemanusa on Nov 16, 2014 21:43:53 GMT
Same for Wilson at CB... Poor Huth. Not quite, Muni could always have played instead. No Muni, "Should" play as he is better in every aspect and in his early 20's. I'll leave you with that.
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Post by Olgrligm on Nov 16, 2014 22:13:06 GMT
Q. What's more boring than a four page Marc Wilson thread?
A. A four page thread that was about Marc Wilson but turned into a thread about Geoff Cameron.
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Post by stokemanusa on Nov 16, 2014 22:21:56 GMT
Problem is we're still stuck with the fact he's a stop gap and a liability every week. 4 pages on.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Nov 16, 2014 22:34:01 GMT
(wave) (wave) (wave) (wave)
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Post by boskampsflaps on Nov 16, 2014 22:34:27 GMT
Problem is we're still stuck with the fact he's a stop gap and a liability every week. 4 pages on. He's on about Wilson not Cameron.
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Post by stokemanusa on Nov 16, 2014 22:40:08 GMT
Problem is we're still stuck with the fact he's a stop gap and a liability every week. 4 pages on. He's on about Wilson not Cameron. Both are playing in positions' they aren't natural at but one isn't pretending to want to be a starting CB. As is Wilson. We've seen his midfield debut and I've seen enough goals from his mistakes this season to be sold on spending in January by many other posters on here. You seem to be one of minority on the issue it's okay. January can't come soon enough.
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Post by tuum on Nov 17, 2014 6:22:48 GMT
Why exactly is it pathetic to hope that one player plays over another? So as to avoid incurring your wrath as the moral gatekeeper of this site, I will rephrase. I hope that Wilson has recovered from his hamstring tear sufficently to find himself occupying a position on the bench v Burnley next Saturday. I would like to see Muniesa given a run of games at centre half now because Wilson is a liability, as he was in the opening 20 minutes v Spurs, and Muniesa is a much better player. At some point, we need to find out whether Muniesa can excel in his preferred position at centre half so hopefully that point is now. If he doesn't excel, then hopefully Huth will be fit enough to be considered to be his old self and Wilson will continue to find himself fit enough to occupy a position on the bench. That would be fine, but to hope a player is out injured long term is pathetic, and thats how you've worded it, and definitely doesn't read any other way. I didn't read it that way. I read it the way the poster intended. I don't consider being out for two games is long term either.
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Post by jarhead on Nov 17, 2014 10:04:28 GMT
We all see things differently, but regarding Wilson and pace, I am with webbyyy. I've seen milk turn quicker ffs
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Post by metalhead on Nov 17, 2014 10:57:53 GMT
Problem is we're still stuck with the fact he's a stop gap and a liability every week. 4 pages on. He's on about Wilson not Cameron. Prejudiced or not, I'm still surprised you're bashing Cameron. We've all said Cameron's future is in midfield, yet he's come in twice at full back and played very well, all things considered. I also think he would do a perfectly good job at centre back instead of Wilson, however I'd still prefer to see Geoff in midfield with either N'Zonzi and Bojan or Adam and Bojan. When Whelan is back, I'd like to see Geoff given the freedom N'Zonzi is given to push up.
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Post by thebet365 on Nov 17, 2014 11:27:43 GMT
You're right you alluded over many posts but that's not the point now. You were wrong. It's called marking, He was with his man. Stride for stride. "Out of position" unlike Eric Pieters. Try again. He was out of position, hes a 29 year old footballer who has played 30 times in his career for America. Is that the number of times an exceptional player would turn out for his country? He was in position, then got brought infield tracking the man with the ball which was his man, Walters slipped into his position, the ball then goes back to our RB position which is now Walters territory, Cameron then became the spare man behind walters incase the player took walters on. It's called teamwork. If players stuck to their positions all the time football would be a very boring game to watch.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Nov 17, 2014 15:47:46 GMT
He's on about Wilson not Cameron. Prejudiced or not, I'm still surprised you're bashing Cameron. We've all said Cameron's future is in midfield, yet he's come in twice at full back and played very well, all things considered. I also think he would do a perfectly good job at centre back instead of Wilson, however I'd still prefer to see Geoff in midfield with either N'Zonzi and Bojan or Adam and Bojan. When Whelan is back, I'd like to see Geoff given the freedom N'Zonzi is given to push up. Not sure I agree he did very well to be honest but we can leave that there. I agree his future (if any at Stoke) is in the midfield, impressed when he came on against Swansea but can't say he was more than average in his other appearances there but deserves time to get used to the change, and as you say he'd be more suited to N'Zonzi's role rather than as the dm, but his chances will be limited with the amount of midfielders we have. I can see us losing one f Adam or Ireland pretty soon, probably Adam given he's not a Hughes signing.
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Post by metalhead on Nov 17, 2014 15:57:42 GMT
Prejudiced or not, I'm still surprised you're bashing Cameron. We've all said Cameron's future is in midfield, yet he's come in twice at full back and played very well, all things considered. I also think he would do a perfectly good job at centre back instead of Wilson, however I'd still prefer to see Geoff in midfield with either N'Zonzi and Bojan or Adam and Bojan. When Whelan is back, I'd like to see Geoff given the freedom N'Zonzi is given to push up. Not sure I agree he did very well to be honest but we can leave that there. I agree his future (if any at Stoke) is in the midfield, impressed when he came on against Swansea but can't say he was more than average in his other appearances there but deserves time to get used to the change, and as you say he'd be more suited to N'Zonzi's role rather than as the dm, but his chances will be limited with the amount of midfielders we have. I can see us losing one f Adam or Ireland pretty soon, probably Adam given he's not a Hughes signing. He was only given a couple of opportunities there. We've given other players time after a couple of crap performances. Geoff gets one go against Southampton and is thrown under the bus. It's pathetic how we immediately castigate our own players after one bad performance.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Nov 17, 2014 16:16:23 GMT
Not sure I agree he did very well to be honest but we can leave that there. I agree his future (if any at Stoke) is in the midfield, impressed when he came on against Swansea but can't say he was more than average in his other appearances there but deserves time to get used to the change, and as you say he'd be more suited to N'Zonzi's role rather than as the dm, but his chances will be limited with the amount of midfielders we have. I can see us losing one f Adam or Ireland pretty soon, probably Adam given he's not a Hughes signing. He was only given a couple of opportunities there. We've given other players time after a couple of crap performances. Geoff gets one go against Southampton and is thrown under the bus. It's pathetic how we immediately castigate our own players after one bad performance. As I say, he deserves more time.
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Post by technostokie on Nov 22, 2014 20:03:06 GMT
He's on about Wilson not Cameron. Both are playing in positions' they aren't natural at but one isn't pretending to want to be a starting CB. As is Wilson. We've seen his midfield debut and I've seen enough goals from his mistakes this season to be sold on spending in January by many other posters on here. You seem to be one of minority on the issue it's okay. January can't come soon enough. i have NEVER heard a more bias prick that stokemanusa he can see no-one on the pitch other that geoff cameron typical yank.
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Post by hanibal7 on Nov 23, 2014 1:36:52 GMT
wILSON IS FAR SUPERIOR AS A CENTRAL DEFENDER
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