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Post by The Stubborn Optimist on Nov 3, 2014 11:50:06 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Nov 3, 2014 12:08:11 GMT
Don't get me wrong cus I actually quite like Crystal Palace FC, and they do generate a decent atmosphere in one small part of the Holmesdale, but they're a pretty edgeless club aren't they. There's nothing wrong with that of course but it really can't ever compare to being at a place like Ninian Park when the home supporters are ten feet away from you screaming like madmen. It's all well and good singing and clapping lots but without being able to instill that small fear in the opposition that today might be the day they die it's very much in vain.
Our atmosphere is generally mediocre now and for journalists to still rate it so highly isn't a compliment to us, it's an insult to the rest of the league. We have a much higher peak than most other clubs and I still think that despite our atmosphere being generally wank now we will always maintain just a little something that intimidates referees into giving us more than our fair share of decisions at home, but I think seeing us being ranked so consistently highly in these sorts of things is actually quite depressing.
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Post by Jamo on the wing on Nov 3, 2014 12:10:30 GMT
To be honest I can't recall the last time I went to a game with a really good, proper atmosphere whether at home or away.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Nov 3, 2014 12:19:19 GMT
To be honest I can't recall the last time I went to a game with a really good, proper atmosphere whether at home or away. The Danny Rose berating was the last one I could remember thinking 'fuck me that's loud' |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 3, 2014 12:21:10 GMT
To be honest I can't recall the last time I went to a game with a really good, proper atmosphere whether at home or away. Yesterday was the loudest we've been all Season, and that was because we had something to shout about from the XI on the pitch! Long gone are atmospheres of the early days back in The Prem. They'll never return. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 3, 2014 12:22:59 GMT
Spurs at home last year turned so poisonous that their manager started making tactical adjustments to deal with it. Even though it's so generally poor now, I doubt there's more than a handful of clubs in the country who are capable of generating an atmosphere so hostile that the opposition literally has to factor it into their decision making. It's a shame we need a specific set of circumstances to produce that sort of response but at least we're still capable.
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Post by Jamo on the wing on Nov 3, 2014 12:54:32 GMT
To be honest I can't recall the last time I went to a game with a really good, proper atmosphere whether at home or away. The Danny Rose berating was the last one I could remember thinking 'fuck me that's loud' That's probably right, mate. Even then it's about being hard done to rather than a good atmosphere with banter between fans and the like. It does seem those days have all but gone sadly. |
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Post by lordb on Nov 3, 2014 12:56:14 GMT
Don't get me wrong cus I actually quite like Crystal Palace FC, and they do generate a decent atmosphere in one small part of the Holmesdale, but they're a pretty edgeless club aren't they. There's nothing wrong with that of course but it really can't ever compare to being at a place like Ninian Park when the home supporters are ten feet away from you screaming like madmen. It's all well and good singing and clapping lots but without being able to instill that small fear in the opposition that today might be the day they die it's very much in vain. Our atmosphere is generally mediocre now and for journalists to still rate it so highly isn't a compliment to us, it's an insult to the rest of the league. We have a much higher peak than most other clubs and I still think that despite our atmosphere being generally wank now we will always maintain just a little something that intimidates referees into giving us more than our fair share of decisions at home, but I think seeing us being ranked so consistently highly in these sorts of things is actually quite depressing. I agree with this,our atmospher is mostly ok & sometimes very good. And yet we still have one of the very best atmospheres in England. speaks volumes for how the Premier League pricing structure (& other factors) has sucked the life out of our stadiums. We are so far behind the Bundesliga now. very sad. |
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Post by passtheoatcakes on Nov 3, 2014 13:32:51 GMT
Improve the crowd atmosphere? Reduce the ticket prices, introduce safe standing and get the young teens and twenty some-things back in numbers, not rocket science really. In other words, follow the German model.
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Post by Gaz on Nov 3, 2014 13:59:55 GMT
The Danny Rose berating was the last one I could remember thinking 'fuck me that's loud' That should be the official yardstick for measurement of an atmosphere  |
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Post by surreystokie on Nov 3, 2014 14:08:27 GMT
Talk about turning a positive into a negative! When I read it, first thing this morning, I was dead pleased. Of course I realised that the Brit atmosphere has decreased, but who am I to argue that the other clubs (bar Palace)have a better crowd response, when I only go there once a season?!
I'm willing to believe that others are poorer, being surprised only by that of Newcastle United, though the Ashley effect there would cause any supporter severe depression. But then I recalled how the NE clubs, if incredible regarding attendance, (Sunderland seems to average over 40,000 despite this being their third season of playing rubbish,) are the first to boo the team off, if displeased with them, and I'm proud that we never do that.
This is the time, more than ever, with our luck at a low, that the team needs encouragement. SO let's have some more positivity.
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Post by metalhead on Nov 3, 2014 14:40:50 GMT
To be honest I can't recall the last time I went to a game with a really good, proper atmosphere whether at home or away. Yesterday was the loudest we've been all Season, and that was because we had something to shout about from the XI on the pitch! Long gone are atmospheres of the early days back in The Prem. They'll never return. I still maintain hope. |
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Post by sportsman on Nov 3, 2014 14:44:10 GMT
I always thought the 'oh when the reds' sung by all four stands once the first ball had been kicked was brilliant, set the tone, and sometimes scared the shit out of the opposing players. The one on youtube against blackburn during the game this time,was the best ever.
Even the two stands at the side stood up and sang.
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Post by justlookin on Nov 3, 2014 14:47:25 GMT
Talk about turning a positive into a negative! When I read it, first thing this morning, I was dead pleased. Of course I realised that the Brit atmosphere has decreased, but who am I to argue that the other clubs (bar Palace)have a better crowd response, when I only go there once a season?! I'm willing to believe that others are poorer, being surprised only by that of Newcastle United, though the Ashley effect there would cause any supporter severe depression. But then I recalled how the NE clubs, if incredible regarding attendance, (Sunderland seems to average over 40,000 despite this being their third season of playing rubbish,) are the first to boo the team off, if displeased with them, and I'm proud that we never do that. This is the time, more than ever, with our luck at a low, that the team needs encouragement. SO let's have some more positivity. You say we don't boo but this season when things haven't gone our way, a few fans have booed the lads off. I've noticed it gets a few more everytime. Don't boo the lads, and I don't care if you think that you deserve to boo as you've paid your money. |
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Post by lawrieleslie on Nov 3, 2014 15:11:31 GMT
There was an article on BBC football website on Sunday. Murinho was lambasting the chelsea fans for the complete lack of atmosphere at Stamford bridge. One of the supporters council answered him saying it was due to the cost of tickets, £45-£75, that was keeping fans away and those that could afford it were basically toffs and tourists who wouldn't have a clue about raising the decibels. He has a point IMO and are we suffering the same?
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Post by metalhead on Nov 3, 2014 15:22:27 GMT
There was an article on BBC football website on Sunday. Murinho was lambasting the chelsea fans for the complete lack of atmosphere at Stamford bridge. One of the supporters council answered him saying it was due to the cost of tickets, £45-£75, that was keeping fans away and those that could afford it were basically toffs and tourists who wouldn't have a clue about raising the decibels. He has a point IMO and are we suffering the same? Depends. My season ticket costs next to nothing as far as I'm concerned. £344 a year, and has been for a fair while now. I know someone who pays £300 a month for a bloody car. Perhaps it's just my view of cars which is that they're large heaps of metal designed to transport mass at speed. Luxurious really isn't that big a deal and can be achieved with your own modifications  ala, I prefer Bangernomics and I do a lot of miles! I apreciate the two aren't really comparable, especially when talking about a new car... After all, one is a luxury item and the other is a BMW. |
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Post by rorymscfc on Nov 3, 2014 15:30:40 GMT
There was an article on BBC football website on Sunday. Murinho was lambasting the chelsea fans for the complete lack of atmosphere at Stamford bridge. One of the supporters council answered him saying it was due to the cost of tickets, £45-£75, that was keeping fans away and those that could afford it were basically toffs and tourists who wouldn't have a clue about raising the decibels. He has a point IMO and are we suffering the same? I don't think you can level the accusation at Stoke - Season ticket prices have been frozen for the the best part of a decade now! |
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Post by dutchstokie on Nov 3, 2014 15:31:46 GMT
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Post by lawrieleslie on Nov 3, 2014 15:35:55 GMT
There was an article on BBC football website on Sunday. Murinho was lambasting the chelsea fans for the complete lack of atmosphere at Stamford bridge. One of the supporters council answered him saying it was due to the cost of tickets, £45-£75, that was keeping fans away and those that could afford it were basically toffs and tourists who wouldn't have a clue about raising the decibels. He has a point IMO and are we suffering the same? I don't think you can level the accusation at Stoke - Season ticket prices have been frozen for the the best part of a decade now! Good point. BTW is there a southweststokies website. Tried the link on your post but it doesn't work.  |
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Post by rorymscfc on Nov 3, 2014 15:38:55 GMT
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Post by bignickhowes on Nov 3, 2014 16:20:39 GMT
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Post by metalhead on Nov 3, 2014 16:48:37 GMT
Number 2, Manchester United. Well that's bollocks. |
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Post by CalgaryPotter on Nov 3, 2014 19:32:44 GMT
A few years back there was a rendition of Ricardo Fuller, City's number 10 against Liverpool and that has to be the loudest I've heard us on tv. Commentators were all over it and they homed in on some purple faced bloke in his late 50's early 60's who was having a mental. Bloke looked like he'd been drinking solid for week and was having the time of his life  |
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Post by wearestoke80 on Nov 3, 2014 21:08:42 GMT
I thought it was a decent atmosphere on Saturday, is it just me??
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Post by lordb on Nov 3, 2014 21:15:25 GMT
It was good yeh.
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Post by Linx on Nov 3, 2014 23:57:04 GMT
I went to Villa Park with my mate to see them against Fulham a couple of seasons ago. Can you think of a more anodyne fixture? That, plus the Villa fans gritting their teeth during what they hoped was Lambert's transitional season, meant that it was like a morgue. Massive, but soulless. Like a lot of these bigger stadiums, you didn't feel attached to anything that was on the pitch, because the action was so far away. The smaller scale of the Brit does help to foster a cohesion between players and fans.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 4, 2014 10:58:00 GMT
I haven't been to the last two home games (bastatd sciatica) but the atmosphere came across very well. In an interview with Radio Stoke Steve Sidwell said it was fantastic. In general the atmosphere at football matches is not what it was but IMHO The Brit is still one of the best. OK it probably won't ever reach the heights of our first seasons in The Prem but on its day it stll competes with the best.
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Post by mrcoke on Nov 4, 2014 11:12:21 GMT
I haven't been to the last two home games (bastatd sciatica) but the atmosphere came across very well. In an interview with Radio Stoke Steve Sidwell said it was fantastic. In general the atmosphere at football matches is not what it was but IMHO The Brit is still one of the best. OK it probably won't ever reach the heights of our first seasons in The Prem but on its day it stll competes with the best. If Stoke keep playing like they did on Saturday it could get better than ever. |
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Post by zelem on Nov 4, 2014 11:12:37 GMT
Palace atmosphere is very similar to that first premier league season at the Brit, something that has never been re-created (bit of fan complacency has set in since??)
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Post by cheekymatt71 on Nov 4, 2014 11:41:25 GMT
We need safe-standing and to get all the singers together. That will a) encourage others to join in and b) to try out the odd new song because you wont be doing it by yourself.
It is no mystery that away supporters produce the best atmosphere - BECAUSE THEY ALL CONGREGATE IN THE SAME AREA.
Im convinced football is run by idiots. There are some obvious simple solutions around but clubs are so focused on TV revenue they have literally forgotten about the matchday experience for the average fan
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ala, I prefer Bangernomics and I do a lot of miles! 
