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Post by adi on Nov 1, 2014 20:16:28 GMT
He is a cert to start. Cannot wait. Saying that SJW deserves another start too.
It's fantastic to see players trying (I'm fucking talking to you Arnie)
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Post by liamo on Nov 1, 2014 20:16:40 GMT
I thought he played well there's a real directness to his game. Though he did back out 2-3 challenges where his speed would probably mean that he'd win the ball easily. He needs to go out and have a few drunken fights with Charlie Adam + Glen Whelan to toughen him up and get a few battle scars. Though the really cynical side of me says he should've brought the man down for West Ham's first and taken a booking, I'd bet my last pound that Adam or Whelan would've done. Few drinks with Charlie Adam and an Irishman? Need to toughen him up not kill him  |
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Post by mywaydesolzan on Nov 1, 2014 20:17:51 GMT
He did play very well but not my MOM Walters/Moses the thing with Bojan is he seems to have a lot of the ball and 70% of the time doesn't do a great deal with it,undoubted talent but needs to up his percentage and he also needs to up his work rate it lacks a bit for the prem. Hughes mentioned he has got him working on his strength so he's only going to get better. By saying "he seems to have a lot of the ball and 70% of the time doesn't do a great deal with it" what on earth do you mean. He ran the game today, I can't remember one lost pass. He made space, demanded the ball, moved it and made space again. He made himself available and tracked back all day long. Which percentage and work rate is it that he lacks for this league exactly? And Moses was superb 1st half. But cost us dearly second. |
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Post by stokester1989 on Nov 1, 2014 20:17:57 GMT
yes he played well ,but sometimes seems to loose the ball to easily i dont think he lost it easily i just think he lacks strengh and gets pushed about too easily but theres not alot he can do about that. i watched him closely today and was impressed with his movement after every pass, he made some really good runs |
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Post by turtlefox on Nov 1, 2014 20:20:22 GMT
Not true. Second half they were far better than us in midfield. That's why we lost the game. We lost? Fuck. I meant lost as in not winning it, which is what we should have done. As I said, we lost the midfield battle. |
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Post by Squeekster on Nov 1, 2014 20:20:40 GMT
He did play very well but not my MOM Walters/Moses the thing with Bojan is he seems to have a lot of the ball and 70% of the time doesn't do a great deal with it,undoubted talent but needs to up his percentage and he also needs to up his work rate it lacks a bit for the prem. Hughes mentioned he has got him working on his strength so he's only going to get better. By saying "he seems to have a lot of the ball and 70% of the time doesn't do a great deal with it" what on earth do you mean. He ran the game today, I can't remember one lost pass. He made space, demanded the ball, moved it and made space again. He made himself available and tracked back all day long. Which percentage and work rate is it that he lacks for this league exactly? Plenty of times today he does that step over and runs down a blind alley second half in the area he did 2,3 step overs and didn't know what to do and we got a fortunate corner, don't think he ran the game as i have said he had a good game and is deffo heading in the right direction but don't think he was MOM or ran the game but played well. |
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Post by ayem on Nov 1, 2014 20:21:56 GMT
Moses and bojan work well together. Moses almost demands two defenders to mark him allowing bojan to be more creative in the middle. Regardless of other starters, these two need to play.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2014 20:23:02 GMT
You are right. We were superb today and if we had put our chances away we would have won the game quite comfortably Not true. Second half they were far better than us in midfield. That's why we lost the game. No disrespect but we didn't lose |
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Post by turtlefox on Nov 1, 2014 20:26:30 GMT
Not true. Second half they were far better than us in midfield. That's why we lost the game. No disrespect but we didn't lose It feels like it though doesn't it. |
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Post by Squeekster on Nov 1, 2014 20:28:05 GMT
No disrespect but we didn't lose It feels like it though doesn't it. It did at the time mate but that's football. |
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Post by ayem on Nov 1, 2014 20:30:06 GMT
I'm also very happy we have bojan for awhile. I look forward to him making a home out of stoke and being seen as a world class threat in the years to come.
Optimistic I know, but I thought he was a purchase forthefuture and seeing him play well today is a huge step for Stoke going forward.
At the start of the season he looked intimidated by defenses,and today he made strides in understanding his style of play translates to the premier league.
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Post by mywaydesolzan on Nov 1, 2014 20:35:06 GMT
By saying "he seems to have a lot of the ball and 70% of the time doesn't do a great deal with it" what on earth do you mean. He ran the game today, I can't remember one lost pass. He made space, demanded the ball, moved it and made space again. He made himself available and tracked back all day long. Which percentage and work rate is it that he lacks for this league exactly? Plenty of times today he does that step over and runs down a blind alley second half in the area he did 2,3 step overs and didn't know what to do and we got a fortunate corner, don't think he ran the game as i have said he had a good game and is deffo heading in the right direction but don't think he was MOM or ran the game but played well. He didn't know what to do because he had no support. Did well to get the corner. We can both agree that he is heading in the right direction for us at least, out of interest who did you see controlling the midfield? |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2014 20:36:19 GMT
I meant lost as in not winning it, which is what we should have done. As I said, we lost the midfield battle. we dominated the midfield battle, hence we had 60% possession and created 7-8 clear goalscoring chances. Our failure to take more of our chances, and once again losing concentration at the back at crucial times, is what cost us |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2014 20:36:39 GMT
He is a cert to start. Cannot wait. Saying that SJW deserves another start too. It's fantastic to see players trying (I'm fucking talking to you Arnie) Spot on if Arnie only had half of SJW work rate he would be some player for us. |
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Post by Squeekster on Nov 1, 2014 20:42:50 GMT
Plenty of times today he does that step over and runs down a blind alley second half in the area he did 2,3 step overs and didn't know what to do and we got a fortunate corner, don't think he ran the game as i have said he had a good game and is deffo heading in the right direction but don't think he was MOM or ran the game but played well. He didn't know what to do because he had no support. Did well to get the corner. We can both agree that he is heading in the right direction for us at least, out of interest who did you see controlling the midfield? Don't think I've seen any one player control our midfield for a long time mate. |
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Post by adi on Nov 1, 2014 20:44:23 GMT
I meant lost as in not winning it, which is what we should have done. As I said, we lost the midfield battle. we dominated the midfield battle, hence we had 60% possession and created 7-8 clear goalscoring chances. Our failure to take more of our chances, and once again losing concentration at the back at crucial times, is what cost us Correctamundo |
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Post by mywaydesolzan on Nov 1, 2014 20:53:45 GMT
He didn't know what to do because he had no support. Did well to get the corner. We can both agree that he is heading in the right direction for us at least, out of interest who did you see controlling the midfield? Don't think I've seen any one player control our midfield for a long time mate. Well for me Bojan did today, assisted by Nzonzi but he ran the show. |
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Post by Squeekster on Nov 1, 2014 20:58:29 GMT
Don't think I've seen any one player control our midfield for a long time mate. Well for me Bojan did today, assisted by Nzonzi but he ran the show. Not for me mate he played well but then as a whole so did all. |
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Post by riccyfuller93 on Nov 1, 2014 21:01:26 GMT
has to start next game, we can't crush his confidence now.
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Post by turtlefox on Nov 1, 2014 21:06:14 GMT
I meant lost as in not winning it, which is what we should have done. As I said, we lost the midfield battle. we dominated the midfield battle, hence we had 60% possession and created 7-8 clear goalscoring chances. Our failure to take more of our chances, and once again losing concentration at the back at crucial times, is what cost us Stats only make sense when you haven't got what you deserved and 7-8 clear goalscoring opportunities ? some chances but not that clear. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2014 21:26:30 GMT
He struggled to get a foot hold in the team after a good preseason. Been wank when on the pitch this season....only recently showing signs of the player we wish he was...........are you saying that, based on what we have all seen previously, that everyone is wrong to question him as a first team regular? ....... or maybe we need to see more of what we have have just seen to be a regular? .... like what Hughes said as well.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2014 21:58:01 GMT
we dominated the midfield battle, hence we had 60% possession and created 7-8 clear goalscoring chances. Our failure to take more of our chances, and once again losing concentration at the back at crucial times, is what cost us Stats only make sense when you haven't got what you deserved and 7-8 clear goalscoring opportunities ? some chances but not that clear. Bollocks. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2014 22:00:32 GMT
He is a cert to start. Cannot wait. Saying that SJW deserves another start too. It's fantastic to see players trying (I'm fucking talking to you Arnie) Spot on if Arnie only had half of SJW work rate he would be some player for us. He'd actually be some player for someone else. He certainly wouldn't be here and if he was it wouldn't be for the 2.5M we paid for him. Sorry. Carry on.  |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2014 22:15:11 GMT
No disrespect but we didn't lose It feels like it though doesn't it. Walking out of the ground it did feel like a defeat but that was only because we played really well and didn't get what we deserved. |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Nov 1, 2014 22:17:08 GMT
Very encouraging from the wee man!
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Post by riponstokie on Nov 1, 2014 22:19:34 GMT
Just seen this on youtube sorry if already posted...
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Post by coates on Nov 2, 2014 3:37:42 GMT
Iam very optimistic regarding bojan, hopefully he can have a great future at the club.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 2, 2014 7:44:41 GMT
The look on his face when he was taken off ( wrongly in my opinion ) was utter relief that he'd put in a really good shift, and seemed delighted with the deserved applause he received, well done lad, lets have some more....
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Post by Deleted on Nov 2, 2014 8:26:23 GMT
Let's not forget we've got him on a long term contract as well, so if he can do what Muniesa did over his first season by building his strength up he could be a hell of a player for us over the next couple of years.
New country, new culture, low on confidence, used to being at a huge club like Barcelona, all these things probably mean we have to be more patient than usual, but we're only 10 games in and an the signs are very encouraging based on the last couple of games...
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Post by ormegirl on Nov 2, 2014 8:43:47 GMT
Bojan early season was getting bumped off the ball with ease, yesterday he stood up to tackles and dished it out as well.
Love the idea of him having a boy's chat to Messrs Adam & Whelan to teach him some more tough & rough tricks.
No boy's chat with Shawcross,obviously, as the Master of The Dark Arts (Daily Mail's phrase not mine) could only teach him Hugging ...........not too effective when you're only pint-sized.
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