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Post by tazi on Oct 25, 2014 17:40:18 GMT
Afterall they sold their best players, brought in a new manager and were tipped by many to find themselves down there.
In comes Koeman and he's doing a great job whereas we look so pedestrian to the point where I can't believe it with the pace we've got.
Find it amazing that we look so shite.
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Post by chiefdelilah on Oct 25, 2014 17:43:03 GMT
Good scouting, had their spending spree and mostly done it well with a couple of exceptions, and sunk millions into developing young talent over the years.
Who'd a thunk it eh?
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Post by wuzza on Oct 25, 2014 17:44:41 GMT
Thats the sort of question its best not to ask !
The answers probably would make us feel rather less smug than we did at the begining of the season.
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Post by Squeekster on Oct 25, 2014 17:44:45 GMT
Give us Tadic and Pelle and we will!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 25, 2014 17:45:18 GMT
Let's see where they finish at the end of the season. Nothing would surprise me really.
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Post by Pugsley on Oct 25, 2014 17:46:47 GMT
Good scouting, had their spending spree and mostly done it well with a couple of exceptions, and sunk millions into developing young talent over the years. Who'd a thunk it eh? Exactly right mate. Years of doing the right thing off the pitch developing players and an ethos and continuing it. See Swansea last week. We've been at it for 18 months - remarkable really how well we did last season. Then again I did tell you all this 3 years ago. |
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Post by agingerstokie on Oct 25, 2014 17:47:38 GMT
I think on our day we can be easily, but that day is too little and far between. I think it's going to take a couple more seasons for us to be at our carpet footballing best
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Post by Deleted on Oct 25, 2014 17:48:23 GMT
It's because they've sold all of their best players, that were nurtured through their youth academy for peanuts, for a massive profit and reinvested a portion of that money very wisely. Whilst Southampton were doing that, we were busy chucking 3-5M at the likes of Dave Kitson and Ibrahima Sonko only to sell them for nothing a few years later.
We only have Begovic and Shawcross of real value to show for our Premiership money and selling either of those would kill us.
We're worlds apart.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Oct 25, 2014 17:50:04 GMT
Why can't we be as shit as Burnley.
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Post by stokiejoeofalsager on Oct 25, 2014 17:51:38 GMT
We can.
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Post by ParaPsych on Oct 25, 2014 17:51:41 GMT
We get this every year don't we, some similar sized club who are better than us at that moment. Most have gone by the wayside while we've plodded on. Southampton do however look the real deal.
Why can't we be like them? Well i suppose we could, but it's really really really really difficult. That's why there is only one team currently like them.
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Post by essexhammer on Oct 25, 2014 17:54:58 GMT
Because you didn't go in to administration and get your debt cleared, whilst putting your local small suppliers out of business, and being fortunate enough to drop down a couple of divisions and being able to start again, whilst also fortuitously discovering a Welsh chimpanzee called Gareth from Swindon that was very good at football and be able to sell him for a nice fat profit, and in the meantime also finding a couple of English lads that the money-spunking muppets from Merseyside took a bit of a shine to.
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Post by wuzza on Oct 25, 2014 17:57:56 GMT
All well and good criticising previous transfer policies but the truth is they served their purpose in that (against everyones expectations) we stayed in the division season after season raking in all the associated revenues.
Our problems are more short term - we have gone for quantity not quality and as a result have a squad largely full of players who can turn it on occaisionally but have no consistency whatsoever. We under invested in the summer and havent been as clever as we thought were.
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Post by towraytek on Oct 25, 2014 17:59:13 GMT
We got 'tatered today by a team that was stronger than us, quicker than us, and more skillful than us. We didnt have control of the ball for more than a few seconds. OK, at one none, we still might have nicked something, but its pretty turgid stuff we are dishing out at the moment and a long way from what we expected this season.
Ek
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Oct 25, 2014 18:01:15 GMT
Whuzza at last 100 % agree we are constantly referred to as well run when actually at the moment strategically out transfer policy over the last three years is beginning got come home to roost
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Post by Deleted on Oct 25, 2014 18:01:45 GMT
Let's see where they finish at the end of the season. Nothing would surprise me really. Well they're going to finish above us,that's a certainty. They look a really good side,as Tazi says,we look pedestrian compared to them. |
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Post by no1972 on Oct 25, 2014 18:02:06 GMT
We can be as good as Southampton or any other club.But the people at the top have to drive it and not keep changing things because the fans moan. The owner of Southampton sacked there GEO ,the owner of Southampton sold players who did not want to stay, the owner replaced a successful manager with a manager who played with flair and encourages flair,the Southampton owner also backed there manager with cash. If she had listened to the moaning fans she would of sold the club and fucked off instead of planning for the future. Our chairman as backed the club and backed a manager for 10 years(6 years in the prem has repaid all that)then when some of the so called fans said they don't like what they are watching he sacks the manager. We all thought we were going to make a bold appointment to change the style of play. No we employ a manager with no tactical no how ,did not strength the team with better players,and plays a formation that Mark Bowen tells him the Oatcake managers want. |
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Post by thedeadlyshart on Oct 25, 2014 18:02:12 GMT
Because you didn't go in to administration and get your debt cleared, whilst putting your local small suppliers out of business, and being fortunate enough to drop down a couple of divisions and being able to start again, whilst also fortuitously discovering a Welsh chimpanzee called Gareth from Swindon that was very good at football and be able to sell him for a nice fat profit, and in the meantime also finding a couple of English lads that the money-spunking muppets from Merseyside took a bit of a shine to. i bet you're having a great day. Beating citeh is the highlight of our season too  |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 25, 2014 18:02:52 GMT
Fucking hell is it the end of the season already?
That's soon gone.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 25, 2014 18:03:20 GMT
Let's see where they finish at the end of the season. Nothing would surprise me really. Well they're going to finish above us,that's a certainty. They look a really good side,as Tazi says,we look pedestrian compared to them. I'm not so sure that they will finish above us, but as I said, nothing would surprise me. Let's wait and see what happens .... |
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Post by scfcno1fan on Oct 25, 2014 18:03:24 GMT
Because you didn't go in to administration and get your debt cleared, whilst putting your local small suppliers out of business, and being fortunate enough to drop down a couple of divisions and being able to start again, whilst also fortuitously discovering a Welsh chimpanzee called Gareth from Swindon that was very good at football and be able to sell him for a nice fat profit, and in the meantime also finding a couple of English lads that the money-spunking muppets from Merseyside took a bit of a shine to. I like it  |
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Post by geoff321 on Oct 25, 2014 18:03:39 GMT
After nine games we are asking why we can't be as good as Southampton, yet numerous posters pre season were forecasting them to struggle.
The daftest thing we can do is look at the League after nine games and assume anything, they've appointed a manager with a good track record but I'm not sure they will finish above us.
When I first came on this Board WBA were being touted as the great example of how to play football.
There needs to be a lot of patience now because getting above last seasons finish will be an enormous task, but there's a long way to go yet.
We have one of the best managers in the League so we should stop envying other clubs, in my opinion.
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Post by ParaPsych on Oct 25, 2014 18:04:02 GMT
We can be as good as Southampton or any other club.But the people at the top have to drive it and not keep changing things because the fans moan. The owner of Southampton sacked there GEO ,the owner of Southampton sold players who did not want to stay, the owner replaced a successful manager with a manager who played with flair and encourages flair,the Southampton owner also backed there manager with cash. If she had listened to the moaning fans she would of sold the club and fucked off instead of planning for the future. Our chairman as backed the club and backed a manager for 10 years(6 years in the prem has repaid all that)then when some of the so called fans said they don't like what they are watching he sacks the manager. We all thought we were going to make a bold appointment to change the style of play. No we employ a manager with no tactical no how ,did not strength the team with better players,and plays a formation that Mark Bowen tells him the Oatcake managers want. Yet finished higher up the table and got more points than previously. |
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Post by Pugsley on Oct 25, 2014 18:04:51 GMT
We can be as good as Southampton or any other club.But the people at the top have to drive it and not keep changing things because the fans moan. The owner of Southampton sacked there GEO ,the owner of Southampton sold players who did not want to stay, the owner replaced a successful manager with a manager who played with flair and encourages flair,the Southampton owner also backed there manager with cash. If she had listened to the moaning fans she would of sold the club and fucked off instead of planning for the future. Our chairman as backed the club and backed a manager for 10 years(6 years in the prem has repaid all that)then when some of the so called fans said they don't like what they are watching he sacks the manager. We all thought we were going to make a bold appointment to change the style of play. No we employ a manager with no tactical no how ,did not strength the team with better players,and plays a formation that Mark Bowen tells him the Oatcake managers want. No tactical know how, didn't strengthen the team, plays formations he is told to yet still we score more goals, win more matches and get more points and finish higher than we ever have. It's a head scratcher all right. |
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Post by tazi on Oct 25, 2014 18:05:36 GMT
Give us Tadic and Pelle and we will! Why can't we find players like that?. |
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Post by no1972 on Oct 25, 2014 18:06:25 GMT
It's because they've sold all of their best players, that were nurtured through their youth academy for peanuts, for a massive profit and reinvested a portion of that money very wisely. Whilst Southampton were doing that, we were busy chucking 3-5M at the likes of Dave Kitson and Ibrahima Sonko only to sell them for nothing a few years later. We only have Begovic and Shawcross of real value to show for our Premiership money and selling either of those would kill us. We're worlds apart. Didnt the go into admin when all this was happening so they were forced down that route,plus a couple of up and down seasons.If that had happened to us it would of been back to 10000 fans. |
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Post by essexhammer on Oct 25, 2014 18:06:37 GMT
Because you didn't go in to administration and get your debt cleared, whilst putting your local small suppliers out of business, and being fortunate enough to drop down a couple of divisions and being able to start again, whilst also fortuitously discovering a Welsh chimpanzee called Gareth from Swindon that was very good at football and be able to sell him for a nice fat profit, and in the meantime also finding a couple of English lads that the money-spunking muppets from Merseyside took a bit of a shine to. i bet you're having a great day. Beating citeh is the highlight of our season too Beating the bin-dippers 3-1 a few weeks ago felt better than today if truth be told  |
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Post by chiefdelilah on Oct 25, 2014 18:07:10 GMT
Give us Tadic and Pelle and we will! Why can't we find players like that?. Maybe it's taking us time to develop a scouting system? Shopping abroad has only relatively recently become a priority... |
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Post by Pugsley on Oct 25, 2014 18:07:51 GMT
Give us Tadic and Pelle and we will! Why can't we find players like that?. Tadic 11 million Pelle 8 million Real 'finds'. Plus our chairman doesn't want to spend money. |
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Post by thedeadlyshart on Oct 25, 2014 18:09:09 GMT
i bet you're having a great day. Beating citeh is the highlight of our season too Beating the bin-dippers 3-1 a few weeks ago felt better than today if truth be told yeah, well, we beat citeh when people thought they were good. |
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