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Bojan
Oct 26, 2014 22:55:08 GMT
Post by boskampsflaps on Oct 26, 2014 22:55:08 GMT
Given our very poor goals tally, I think it is time to try something else 4-4-2, or 4 4 1 1 is probably worth a go because what we are doing right now is a blunt instrument People keep banging on about Man City, and whilst it was wonderful, it is the exception at present Crouch, Diouf, Bojan - don't really care which two, just try it Just get rid of this concept of an attacking midfielder - we can not do it Ireland is crap at it and Adam hit and miss at best Yet again on the weekend we had one bloke isolated whilst the rest just watched from afar I disagree with you that Ireland is shit at it, he was one of our better players last season in our good run of form, but it would be good to see us at least try a different set up, I still think it would have to be Crouch and one other because sometimes you need to hit it long and mix it up, no one else is able to do it like he can.
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Bojan
Oct 26, 2014 23:00:33 GMT
Post by Olgrligm on Oct 26, 2014 23:00:33 GMT
Is anybody really surprised by Bojan? It was going to take him a while to get acclimatised and he was either going to be very peripheral or phenomenal. It was a low risk gamble.
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Bojan
Oct 26, 2014 23:02:51 GMT
Post by Pugsley on Oct 26, 2014 23:02:51 GMT
Bojan is the biggest disappointment for me this season, I thought, foolishly as it happens, he was going to be great. Still time yet, if he keep his toys in his pram and knuckles down.
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Post by wearepremierleague on Oct 26, 2014 23:09:32 GMT
Don't think Bojan could play up front on his own, I see him more as a David Silva type player. The problem this year so far is Hughes doesn't have a clue what his best team is. Last year when we were playing well, the team basically picked itself, this year we haven't played the same team two weeks in a row I don't think. He needs to play his most talented team and play them for a few weeks in a row, even if originally it does not work. Arnautovic is clearly bette than Walters, give him a run of games. Bojan is a more talented player than Ireland, get him in. How is he ever going to get used to the league without playing? To be fair to him, he's played what 4 times this season, against villa, where everyone was shit, against Hull where I thought he did well And little cameos against Leicester and Sunderland where again everyone was shit. Injuries have been a major factor in not being able to play the same team week after week, Bojan has, so far, showed nothing, why should he suddenly get in the team in front of someone we know can be a good player for us, same with Arnie, when they show a bit of form, probably from the bench, then they deserve to be playing, just because they MAY end up being a better player? Currently they aren't showing it, everyone else being shit isn't a good excuse, if others are playing shit surely its your chance to show that you're the better player. Ok, let's not give him another chance. The goals are flooding in anyway.
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Bojan
Oct 26, 2014 23:11:25 GMT
Post by sufolkstokie on Oct 26, 2014 23:11:25 GMT
Given our very poor goals tally, I think it is time to try something else 4-4-2, or 4 4 1 1 is probably worth a go because what we are doing right now is a blunt instrument People keep banging on about Man City, and whilst it was wonderful, it is the exception at present Crouch, Diouf, Bojan - don't really care which two, just try it Just get rid of this concept of an attacking midfielder - we can not do it Ireland is crap at it and Adam hit and miss at best Yet again on the weekend we had one bloke isolated whilst the rest just watched from afar I disagree with you that Ireland is shit at it, he was one of our better players last season in our good run of form, but it would be good to see us at least try a different set up, I still think it would have to be Crouch and one other because sometimes you need to hit it long and mix it up, no one else is able to do it like he can. Last season - yes. But everyone keeps harping about last season. This season he sadly looks poor. As does Arnie. With a bigger team, it should and must be about the here and now, not what has gone Even Sparky came out and stated what Bojan does in training makes the rest look at him in awe (or words to that effect) = so........
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Bojan
Oct 26, 2014 23:15:32 GMT
Post by boskampsflaps on Oct 26, 2014 23:15:32 GMT
Injuries have been a major factor in not being able to play the same team week after week, Bojan has, so far, showed nothing, why should he suddenly get in the team in front of someone we know can be a good player for us, same with Arnie, when they show a bit of form, probably from the bench, then they deserve to be playing, just because they MAY end up being a better player? Currently they aren't showing it, everyone else being shit isn't a good excuse, if others are playing shit surely its your chance to show that you're the better player. Ok, let's not give him another chance. The goals are flooding in anyway. Yes, thats definitely what I was saying.
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Bojan
Oct 26, 2014 23:17:35 GMT
Post by boskampsflaps on Oct 26, 2014 23:17:35 GMT
I disagree with you that Ireland is shit at it, he was one of our better players last season in our good run of form, but it would be good to see us at least try a different set up, I still think it would have to be Crouch and one other because sometimes you need to hit it long and mix it up, no one else is able to do it like he can. Last season - yes. But everyone keeps harping about last season. This season he sadly looks poor. As does Arnie. With a bigger team, it should and must be about the here and now, not what has gone Even Sparky came out and stated what Bojan does in training makes the rest look at him in awe (or words to that effect) = so........ And what he does on the pitch makes them look at him and think fuck am I passing it to him , I'm not against him getting a chance but it would be off the bench for me, if he shows he should be trusted with a start then fair enough, Cameron managed it.
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Post by sufolkstokie on Oct 26, 2014 23:20:14 GMT
Last season - yes. But everyone keeps harping about last season. This season he sadly looks poor. As does Arnie. With a bigger team, it should and must be about the here and now, not what has gone Even Sparky came out and stated what Bojan does in training makes the rest look at him in awe (or words to that effect) = so........ And what he does on the pitch makes them look at him and think fuck am I passing it to him , I'm not against him getting a chance but it would be off the bench for me, if he shows he should be trusted with a start then fair enough, Cameron managed it. I have no idea if he is any good or not fella. What is obvious is it aint working up front right now, so something needs to change
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Bojan
Oct 26, 2014 23:23:55 GMT
Post by boskampsflaps on Oct 26, 2014 23:23:55 GMT
And what he does on the pitch makes them look at him and think fuck am I passing it to him , I'm not against him getting a chance but it would be off the bench for me, if he shows he should be trusted with a start then fair enough, Cameron managed it. I have no idea if he is any good or not fella. What is obvious is it aint working up front right now, so something needs to change I agree but Bojan wouldn't be the one I'd call on to change it, I think its the system more than the players, with the new players we got in and the injuries we have the system we're using atm doesn't suit them, Diouf for example, as we all know, isn't a winger and needs to be played up front, that would be my first change.
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Post by sting on Oct 27, 2014 0:06:17 GMT
Agree we need to change things. Yesterday we didn't create anything. Here's the thing. We watched Diouf for a season and maybe longer. He scored plenty in Germany. We knew how he played. Surely it wasn't as a winger! We know how Bojan plays. There are 150 top flight games to see! We know what Arnie can do. We now know what Moses can do. Sparky's job is to make those 4 work. They are the best 4 players technically we have. Why do we contunue to build a team around Crouch? 8 goals, 9 games. I'd like to see Moses right. Arnie left, Diouf and Bojan interchanging up front. Pace, power and unpredictability. Stick Nzonzi and Sidwell behind and we'll be fine with Sidwell pushing on. Bojan needs to be given game time. For me he was the best player against Hull and he hasn't had much game time since.
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Oct 27, 2014 0:10:25 GMT
He plays in the hole with a guard dog looking after him or he plays no where. Just like Mahoney did for Hudson for those of you old enough to remember.
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Bojan
Oct 27, 2014 0:20:59 GMT
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Post by sting on Oct 27, 2014 0:20:59 GMT
I am. Who is your dog?
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Bojan
Oct 27, 2014 0:31:55 GMT
Post by Huddysleftfoot on Oct 27, 2014 0:31:55 GMT
Well maybe Sparky was putting the jigsaw together when he went for Cattermole...perhaps? Only other current option would be Whelan don't you think?
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Bojan
Oct 27, 2014 3:12:22 GMT
Post by riccyfuller93 on Oct 27, 2014 3:12:22 GMT
Don't think Bojan could play up front on his own, I see him more as a David Silva type player. The problem this year so far is Hughes doesn't have a clue what his best team is. Last year when we were playing well, the team basically picked itself, this year we haven't played the same team two weeks in a row I don't think. He needs to play his most talented team and play them for a few weeks in a row, even if originally it does not work. Arnautovic is clearly bette than Walters, give him a run of games. Bojan is a more talented player than Ireland, get him in. How is he ever going to get used to the league without playing? To be fair to him, he's played what 4 times this season, against villa, where everyone was shit, against Hull where I thought he did well And little cameos against Leicester and Sunderland where again everyone was shit. Injuries have been a major factor in not being able to play the same team week after week, Bojan has, so far, showed nothing, why should he suddenly get in the team in front of someone we know can be a good player for us, same with Arnie, when they show a bit of form, probably from the bench, then they deserve to be playing, just because they MAY end up being a better player? Currently they aren't showing it, everyone else being shit isn't a good excuse, if others are playing shit surely its your chance to show that you're the better player. Bojan has hardly been given a chance.
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Bojan
Oct 27, 2014 10:52:23 GMT
Post by PerCyfilth ....Captains Log on Oct 27, 2014 10:52:23 GMT
In pre season he scored a few cracking goals and i would give him a shot in the "hole" as we are STILL not scoring enough.
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Bojan
Oct 27, 2014 11:14:15 GMT
Post by superscfc on Oct 27, 2014 11:14:15 GMT
Never thought we'd miss Odemwingie so much when we signed him.
Bojan needs minutes, start him in the cup!
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Bojan
Oct 27, 2014 12:40:17 GMT
Post by nott1 on Oct 27, 2014 12:40:17 GMT
Give him a game on weds. I say and play two wingers too.Huth should also be there to "mark" Tadic (for life).
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Bojan
Oct 27, 2014 13:14:57 GMT
Post by metalhead on Oct 27, 2014 13:14:57 GMT
I hope Bojan does start Wednesday. Needs a chance, won't get one if it's not offered.
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Bojan
Oct 27, 2014 13:43:46 GMT
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Post by coates on Oct 27, 2014 13:43:46 GMT
Start him Wednesday lets see what he can do.
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Bojan
Oct 27, 2014 20:03:42 GMT
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Post by stokiejoeofalsager on Oct 27, 2014 20:03:42 GMT
Where are all these stories coming from? Now it's "bojan wants move back to Spain".
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Bojan
Oct 27, 2014 20:51:45 GMT
Post by ringolevio on Oct 27, 2014 20:51:45 GMT
Play Bojan What have we got to lose? (Negative goal difference) When do we want to lose it? NOW!!!
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Post by hatchett on Oct 27, 2014 21:06:46 GMT
Agree we need to change things. Yesterday we didn't create anything. Here's the thing. We watched Diouf for a season and maybe longer. He scored plenty in Germany. We knew how he played. Surely it wasn't as a winger! We know how Bojan plays. There are 150 top flight games to see! We know what Arnie can do. We now know what Moses can do. Sparky's job is to make those 4 work. They are the best 4 players technically we have. Why do we contunue to build a team around Crouch? 8 goals, 9 games. I'd like to see Moses right. Arnie left, Diouf and Bojan interchanging up front. Pace, power and unpredictability. Stick Nzonzi and Sidwell behind and we'll be fine with Sidwell pushing on. Bojan needs to be given game time. For me he was the best player against Hull and he hasn't much game time since. I'll go for that
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Bojan
Oct 27, 2014 21:23:57 GMT
Post by Deleted on Oct 27, 2014 21:23:57 GMT
Rather than debate semi informed tripe based upon well, absolutely nothing really
why not trust the managers judgment - i.e. the professional football manager that watches these players virtually every single day ?
Bojan krkic will get his chance when the time is right
probably wednesday actually
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Bojan
Oct 28, 2014 4:00:55 GMT
Post by NassauDave on Oct 28, 2014 4:00:55 GMT
See lack of goals thread........????
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Bojan
Oct 28, 2014 9:33:56 GMT
Post by huddy on Oct 28, 2014 9:33:56 GMT
There is of course a reason why Bojan is with us .He was allowed to go from Barca and Ajax.To be frank he has gone down the football ladder because he is flawed that's why we were able to sign him.Same for Arnautovic.We all get excited.Wow he was at Barcelona.Wow he was at Inter Milan.They are 'risk'
signings so don't expect too much,Generally attitude is the problem.Too much too young etc. Same for Diouf. Man Utd then where? Hope fully they come off but don't rely on them .
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Bojan
Oct 28, 2014 10:04:35 GMT
Post by mywaydesolzan on Oct 28, 2014 10:04:35 GMT
Where are all these stories coming from? Now it's "bojan wants move back to Spain". Where did you hear that?
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Bojan
Oct 28, 2014 11:24:21 GMT
Post by dirtygary69 on Oct 28, 2014 11:24:21 GMT
Whenever I've seen him he's always looked fairly happy. He certainly doesn't look like he's sulking at the moment and I have faith that Mark and the team (Copyright Chris Kamara's Perm) have explained the situation to him.
Rushing him into things and expecting instant results is possibly what killed him at Roma, Milan and Ajax. I'd like to see more of him but I trust Hughes is managing him well behind the scenes.
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Bojan
Oct 28, 2014 11:40:12 GMT
Post by thestatusquo on Oct 28, 2014 11:40:12 GMT
As a player his options must have been limited to rock up here. He's a bit of a gamble which at the moment doesn't appear to be paying off. He'll need time to adjust I guess. One the three occasions I've seen him he didn't particularly impress to be honest. But its early days and he's on a long contract to well just have to wait and see how it pans out.
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Bojan
Oct 28, 2014 11:45:14 GMT
Post by unknown182 on Oct 28, 2014 11:45:14 GMT
After watching Zamora and Austin link up so well last night you have to wonder why a Crouch/Bojan partnership has not been tried out up front. When Van Der Vart played for Spurs nearly all of his goals were set up by Crouch and i don't see why it wouldn't work the same with Bojan.
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Post by Beloved Monkfish on Oct 28, 2014 11:52:08 GMT
He's got to start tomorrow for me. I'd like to see him in the hole behind Diouf with Moses and Assaidi on the wing. However, we have got to get the ball to him quickly, none of this waiting around until he's ran off into central defence to get the ball.
If we were to go with Diouf up front and no Crouch, we can't spend all game lumping it up to him as it's clear he's not a target man. This might actually encourage us to play a bit more football.
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