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Post by Deleted on Oct 25, 2014 16:36:33 GMT
Anyone who went / watched?
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Post by dutchstokie on Oct 25, 2014 16:42:10 GMT
I'll probably get my head chewed off but Im not bothered......but I thought he had a solid game
He put his foot in on numerous occasions and tried to play the ball forward when possible
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Post by stokiejoe on Oct 25, 2014 16:42:39 GMT
Thought he did well, he can intercept and pass. What we needed first half was someone with a bit of speed to pass to. We improved once Diouf came on and injected a bit of pace. Not the best of games for anyone but Adam in particular went from man of the match last week to one of the poorest this.
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Post by metalhead on Oct 25, 2014 16:44:35 GMT
I'm a big Cameron fan but was disappointed today. He looked great when he was in position but at least two or three times he was caught badly out of position.
We know he can do better.
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Post by stokemanusa on Oct 25, 2014 16:54:40 GMT
I thought he was so,so. Some good passes and interceptions as usual. Had a goal saving nick from pelle in our box and my main criticism was him being over adventurous in the first 30 mins. He passed well and looked for the ball to get it going. Nzonzi and him had to stay back and neither of them wanted to at first. We looked better with more pace from diouf instantly allowing Nzonzi to drift and Geoff to sitback. Our starting lineup pinned us too much on our back foot. Soon as we changed we were able to get chances. The Bardsley pass to diouf couldn't of happened first half we had no pace or creative movement from Walters or Adam on their line.
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Post by Olgrligm on Oct 25, 2014 17:11:18 GMT
I thought he was alright. Midfield is the hardest position to watch over a stream, but he did a decent job of making a few important interceptions and getting his foot in. He still has an odd tendency to hit every pass as if he wants it to go 50 yards, even if his target is only two yards away. No real complaints though.
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Post by fca47 on Oct 25, 2014 17:13:03 GMT
Think our main problem is we only have one true DM and that's Glen.
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Post by metalhead on Oct 25, 2014 17:17:56 GMT
I thought he was so,so. Some good passes and interceptions as usual. Had a goal saving nick from pelle in our box and my main criticism was him being over adventurous in the first 30 mins. He passed well and looked for the ball to get it going. Nzonzi and him had to stay back and neither of them wanted to at first. We looked better with more pace from diouf instantly allowing Nzonzi to drift and Geoff to sitback. Our starting lineup pinned us too much on our back foot. Soon as we changed we were able to get chances. The Bardsley pass to diouf couldn't of happened first half we had no pace or creative movement from Walters or Adam on their line. My feelings exactly. He drifted a bit. Had me shouting at the tv |
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Post by stokemanusa on Oct 25, 2014 17:18:28 GMT
Think our main problem is we only have one true DM and that's Glen. I think Geoff can become a DM that changes gears and gets us going. Our main problem is injuries and chances on goal. We looked fine second half when we had a threat on each wing. First half Adams blown leg was hurting us. Knowning that now, I'd think nzozni and geoff did okay. |
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Post by stokemanusa on Oct 25, 2014 17:23:57 GMT
I thought he was so,so. Some good passes and interceptions as usual. Had a goal saving nick from pelle in our box and my main criticism was him being over adventurous in the first 30 mins. He passed well and looked for the ball to get it going. Nzonzi and him had to stay back and neither of them wanted to at first. We looked better with more pace from diouf instantly allowing Nzonzi to drift and Geoff to sitback. Our starting lineup pinned us too much on our back foot. Soon as we changed we were able to get chances. The Bardsley pass to diouf couldn't of happened first half we had no pace or creative movement from Walters or Adam on their line. My feelings exactly. He drifted a bit. Had me shouting at the tv Their movement is amazing its better than Chelsea's. They are a goood side. Tbh Adams free kicks cost us that lucky goal ricochet did bego they didn't score on the press but had lots of looks. |
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Post by march4 on Oct 25, 2014 17:33:59 GMT
Average
We missed Whelan
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Post by Pugsley on Oct 25, 2014 17:37:37 GMT
Nothing like giving the bloke a chance....
We must have some of the worst, know nothing supporters in football.
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Post by stokemanusa on Oct 25, 2014 17:39:54 GMT
We missed whelan's defensive positioning. I wish we had him So geoff and Nzonzi could counter and challenge near our box instead of the wrecking ball that was Mr. Charlie Adam today. |
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Post by stokemanusa on Oct 25, 2014 17:42:19 GMT
Nothing like giving the bloke a chance.... We must have some of the worst, know nothing supporters in football. Next he'll say Adam has bags of pace while Keeping on about Assaidi being slow and having none.. lol |
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Post by Squeekster on Oct 25, 2014 17:42:49 GMT
Played well.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Oct 25, 2014 17:43:33 GMT
Poor, like the rest, out of position to often, and got over run by a superior midfield, I think he'd be better off playing N'Zonzi's position.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Oct 25, 2014 17:44:08 GMT
Nothing like giving the bloke a chance.... We must have some of the worst, know nothing supporters in football. You can give him a chance and still have an opinion on how he played. |
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Post by thedeadlyshart on Oct 25, 2014 17:45:03 GMT
I thought he was pretty bad. Not our worst player today, but not far off. His marking was as bad as anything at rb last season, which wasn't awful as some on here would suggest, but he clearly worries about the ball more than the player he should be picking up.
They were unlucky to have not scored when he allowed his man to run free on a throw in.
Early on it looked like he forgot the other team was the one wearing stripes.
He lost possession on throw-ins, and offered little on offense.
There were many times where I felt our other players chose not to play the ball to him, and that is really a good indicator of a shit performance in midfield.
He improved when we went to a two man midfield, which was weird. However, that improvement could have been down to the introduction of diouf and Arnie whom both offered more quality than Adam and walters, allowing geoff to sit back, try nick the ball, and make one pass to start a counter.
Geoff does intercept the ball, win headers, and can shove people around though, so I'd go with him again midweek; but Whelan surely gets his place back when his leg heals. If Geoff can't improve on this, then sidwell, then maybe give Wilson another look in midfield while Whelan is out, assuming big bob Huth still has legs.
Geoff can play a few positions well-enough, but none as good as the players ahead of him.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Oct 25, 2014 17:49:10 GMT
I thought he was pretty bad. Not our worst player today, but not far off. His marking was as bad as anything at rb last season, which wasn't awful as some on here would suggest, but he clearly worries about the ball more than the player he should be picking up. They were unlucky to have not scored when he allowed his man to run free on a throw in. Early on it looked like he forgot the other team was the one wearing stripes. He lost possession on throw-ins, and offered little on offense. There were many times where I felt our other players chose not to play the ball to him, and that is really a good indicator of a shit performance in midfield. He improved when we went to a two man midfield, which was weird. However, that improvement could have been down to the introduction of diouf and Arnie whom both offered more quality than Adam and walters, allowing geoff to sit back, try nick the ball, and make one pass to start a counter. Geoff does intercept the ball, win headers, and can shove people around though, so I'd go with him again midweek; but Whelan surely gets his place back when his leg heals. If Geoff can't improve on this, then sidwell, then maybe give Wilson another look in midfield while Whelan is out, assuming big bob Huth still has legs. Geoff can play a few positions well-enough, but none as good as the players ahead of him. I know you said maybe but Wilson should never be tried in midfield ever again. |
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Post by Pugsley on Oct 25, 2014 17:51:57 GMT
Played exceptional for 20 minutes = proves fuck all.
Played average for 90 = conclusive proof he's wank in that role.
Stoke City supporters eh.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Oct 25, 2014 17:53:15 GMT
Played exceptional for 20 minutes = proves fuck all. Played average for 90 = conclusive proof he's wank in that role. Stoke City supporters eh. Whos said he's wank in that role? |
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Post by Pugsley on Oct 25, 2014 17:55:04 GMT
Played exceptional for 20 minutes = proves fuck all. Played average for 90 = conclusive proof he's wank in that role. Stoke City supporters eh. Whos said he's wank in that role? We all know where it's going mate. |
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Post by thedeadlyshart on Oct 25, 2014 17:55:35 GMT
I thought he was pretty bad. Not our worst player today, but not far off. His marking was as bad as anything at rb last season, which wasn't awful as some on here would suggest, but he clearly worries about the ball more than the player he should be picking up. They were unlucky to have not scored when he allowed his man to run free on a throw in. Early on it looked like he forgot the other team was the one wearing stripes. He lost possession on throw-ins, and offered little on offense. There were many times where I felt our other players chose not to play the ball to him, and that is really a good indicator of a shit performance in midfield. He improved when we went to a two man midfield, which was weird. However, that improvement could have been down to the introduction of diouf and Arnie whom both offered more quality than Adam and walters, allowing geoff to sit back, try nick the ball, and make one pass to start a counter. Geoff does intercept the ball, win headers, and can shove people around though, so I'd go with him again midweek; but Whelan surely gets his place back when his leg heals. If Geoff can't improve on this, then sidwell, then maybe give Wilson another look in midfield while Whelan is out, assuming big bob Huth still has legs. Geoff can play a few positions well-enough, but none as good as the players ahead of him. I know you said maybe but Wilson should never be tried in midfield ever again. and I believe I've said those same words before, but desperate times call for desperate measures! I'd go with palacios but I assume he's probably not even trained with the first team since we tried to send him to Qatar. |
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Post by boskampsflaps on Oct 25, 2014 17:55:47 GMT
Whos said he's wank in that role? We all know where it's going mate. So you're commenting on things that haven't actually happened then  |
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Post by boskampsflaps on Oct 25, 2014 17:56:33 GMT
I know you said maybe but Wilson should never be tried in midfield ever again. and I believe I've said those same words before, but desperate times call for desperate measures! I'd go with palacios but I assume he's probably not even trained with the first team since we tried to send him to Qatar. Cameron has only had one full game in midfield, he's allowed a few more before its desperate times. |
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Post by boskampsflaps on Oct 25, 2014 17:56:49 GMT
Whos said he's wank in that role? We all know where it's going mate. Okay, you may be right |
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Post by Pugsley on Oct 25, 2014 17:57:23 GMT
We all know where it's going mate. So you're commenting on things that haven't actually happened then Obviously. |
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Post by thedeadlyshart on Oct 25, 2014 17:58:10 GMT
and I believe I've said those same words before, but desperate times call for desperate measures! I'd go with palacios but I assume he's probably not even trained with the first team since we tried to send him to Qatar. Cameron had only had one full game in midfield, he's allowed a few more before its desperate times. i was referring more to us needing Glenn. We don't have another player that can do what he and nzonzi do, play consistently good football in midfield. |
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Post by boskampsflaps on Oct 25, 2014 18:00:15 GMT
Cameron had only had one full game in midfield, he's allowed a few more before its desperate times. i was referring more to us needing Glenn. We don't have another player that can do what he and nzonzi do, play consistently good football in midfield. No but Cameron needs time to show he can. |
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Post by stokemanusa on Oct 25, 2014 18:03:11 GMT
I know you said maybe but Wilson should never be tried in midfield ever again. and I believe I've said those same words before, but desperate times call for desperate measures! I'd go with palacios but I assume he's probably not even trained with the first team since we tried to send him to Qatar. Thats just retarded. Try playing in a midfield with Adam off his pace bombing into fools from behind giving away free kicks like a chimo giving away candy infront of poundland because of a blown leg and to top it off left in a one man midfield chasing Nzonzi who is solely looking at his feet instead of passing lanes and 3 or 4 runs infront of him. Palacios? Dear me. This board is nutzo after a loss at times. |
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