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Post by Gods on Oct 24, 2014 21:23:46 GMT
The EU need an extra couple of billion from the UK taxpayers and they need it quick smart, no longer than 3 weeks.
Seems to be because the UK economy is kicking arse with 3% growth (contributions are worked out according to performance and wealth) while other EU countries are suffering but also because we now bundle the 'black' economy in to our numbers. So for example prostitution is included in the UK numbers for the first time whereas it has been included in the German numbers since 2002.
It all seems very strange. I can't really believe it has come as quite the surprise the Government claims, surely the numbers are the numbers we supply to the EU and someone must have known it was coming.
Either way we can jump up and down all we like but we signed up to the thing and my guess is we have to just pay this fucker and find another £2 billion in cuts elsewhere.
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Post by boothenboy75 on Oct 24, 2014 21:30:52 GMT
The EU need an extra couple of billion from the UK taxpayers and they need it quick smart, no longer than 3 weeks. Seems to be because the UK economy is kicking arse with 3% growth (contributions are worked out according to performance and wealth) while other EU countries are suffering but also because we now bundle the 'black' economy in to our numbers. So for example prostitution is included in the UK numbers for the first time whereas it has been included in the German numbers since 2002. It all seems very strange. I can't really believe it has come as quite the surprise the Government claims, surely the numbers are the numbers we supply to the EU and someone must have known it was coming. Either way we can jump up and down all we like but we signed up to the thing and my guess is we have to just pay this fucker and find another £2 billion in cuts elsewhere. The sooner we sign out the better. |
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Post by starkiller on Oct 24, 2014 22:14:31 GMT
A more pressing local issue would be the £5 Billion extra it's going to cost for the pointless HS2 to actually avoid going through Stoke.
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Post by rogerjonesisgod on Oct 24, 2014 22:26:00 GMT
Fuck 'em.
Don't pay it and they might fine us £50M which we'll dispute for years and years.
Or alternatively VOTE CONSERVATIVE next May and we'll have that referendum on Europe.
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Post by basingstokie on Oct 25, 2014 5:34:00 GMT
I believe our normal contribution is 50m per day.
I assume If Barroso pushes this then we will end up exitting and,as a result he'll get nowt in future.
The problem is we don't feel like 1 state and therefore when we are asked for more our reaction is negative whereas generally on a national basis we all contribute and some benefit more than others, but it isn't so overt
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Post by britsabroad on Oct 25, 2014 6:25:25 GMT
The EU's principle aim with the UK is to transfer financial might from London to Paris and Frankfurt. They seem to think the best way is to keep us in, so i doubt they'll do anything to annoy us too much. There will be a concession and we will pay a reduced amount some time in the future when the furore has died down.
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Post by Northy on Oct 25, 2014 6:31:46 GMT
The EU need an extra couple of billion from the UK taxpayers and they need it quick smart, no longer than 3 weeks. Seems to be because the UK economy is kicking arse with 3% growth (contributions are worked out according to performance and wealth) while other EU countries are suffering but also because we now bundle the 'black' economy in to our numbers. So for example prostitution is included in the UK numbers for the first time whereas it has been included in the German numbers since 2002. It all seems very strange. I can't really believe it has come as quite the surprise the Government claims, surely the numbers are the numbers we supply to the EU and someone must have known it was coming. Either way we can jump up and down all we like but we signed up to the thing and my guess is we have to just pay this fucker and find another £2 billion in cuts elsewhere. Not quite correct, it's a reassessment of how the economy did over the last 19 years. I'm not sure what people are getting their knickers in a twist, I thought quite a few people on here wanted money taken off the rich and given to the poor  |
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Post by Billybigbollox on Oct 25, 2014 7:08:14 GMT
The EU is a socialist concept. It's all about redistribution of wealth.
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Post by jonah77 on Oct 25, 2014 7:29:43 GMT
Just refuse to pay it, what could they do to us?
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Oct 25, 2014 9:34:55 GMT
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Oct 25, 2014 9:37:28 GMT
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Post by wizzardofdribble on Oct 25, 2014 10:19:00 GMT
Forget Angela Merkel where was Malcolm Tucker when all this was going on?
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Post by Gods on Oct 25, 2014 10:23:18 GMT
The EU need an extra couple of billion from the UK taxpayers and they need it quick smart, no longer than 3 weeks. Seems to be because the UK economy is kicking arse with 3% growth (contributions are worked out according to performance and wealth) while other EU countries are suffering but also because we now bundle the 'black' economy in to our numbers. So for example prostitution is included in the UK numbers for the first time whereas it has been included in the German numbers since 2002. It all seems very strange. I can't really believe it has come as quite the surprise the Government claims, surely the numbers are the numbers we supply to the EU and someone must have known it was coming. Either way we can jump up and down all we like but we signed up to the thing and my guess is we have to just pay this fucker and find another £2 billion in cuts elsewhere. Not quite correct, it's a reassessment of how the economy did over the last 19 years. I'm not sure what people are getting their knickers in a twist, I thought quite a few people on here wanted money taken off the rich and given to the poor Good point, well made! |
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Post by wizzardofdribble on Oct 25, 2014 11:39:25 GMT
Prostitution & illegal drugs contributing £10 billion a year to the British Economy? Blimey  |
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Post by Moosehead on Oct 25, 2014 13:33:10 GMT
Prostitution & illegal drugs contributing £10 billion a year to the British Economy? Blimey So, am I reading this correctly...this 10BN black economy has been over-estimated by the government in order to make the overall economy look healthier, but as a result of having a better economy (albeit false) the UK gets a EUR 2BN bill? If thats the case, why over-egg prostitution and drugs when you know you'll be taxed for it? So if the government had said prostitution/drugs costs GBP 1BN, the UK wouldn't have this huge bill? Its been hard to see beyond the hand-wringing in the articles I've read what the bill is for. |
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Post by wizzardofdribble on Oct 25, 2014 13:49:16 GMT
UKippers won't be complaining ;-)
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Post by Northy on Oct 25, 2014 14:03:30 GMT
Yes oh dear, they can't even get the facts correct, I'm quite surprised supposedly bright people would even post a link to it |
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Oct 25, 2014 15:55:24 GMT
Yes oh dear, they can't even get the facts correct, I'm quite surprised supposedly bright people would even post a link to it Care to point out what's factually incorrect? |
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Post by Northy on Oct 25, 2014 17:09:49 GMT
Yes oh dear, they can't even get the facts correct, I'm quite surprised supposedly bright people would even post a link to it Care to point out what's factually incorrect? They quote 'because the economy had improved' and to 'the extent that David Cameron says it has', The money the EU are asking for is a rebalance for the last 19 years, not how well we are doing now. |
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Post by Northy on Oct 25, 2014 20:26:20 GMT
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Post by kidsgroveboxxy on Oct 25, 2014 22:06:33 GMT
Leagalise drugs and prostitution, tax it to fuck, problem solved!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2014 9:37:51 GMT
Prostitution & illegal drugs contributing £10 billion a year to the British Economy? Blimey Blimey, i thought id spent a lot but not that much!! |
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Post by Northy on Nov 7, 2014 13:59:57 GMT
looks like it may now have been halved.
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