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Post by Lakeland Potter on Oct 24, 2014 15:28:02 GMT
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Post by thestatusquo on Oct 24, 2014 15:29:56 GMT
He really should be making a public apology though !
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Oct 24, 2014 15:31:26 GMT
He really should be making a public apology though ! Maybe - but if he's grovelled to Victor, that's a result!  |
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Post by adamsson on Oct 24, 2014 15:32:43 GMT
fair enough now just make your apology in public
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Post by turtlefox on Oct 24, 2014 15:36:33 GMT
Fair play Hartson. We all get a little worked up for a while over things that seem at the time like an injustice. Especially if it involves something that we care about. Takes a big man to say that he was wrong. I don't believe that the BBC have twisted his arm in this either. I don't think that he is that sort of a bloke.
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Post by Jamo on the wing on Oct 24, 2014 15:37:00 GMT
Blimey!
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Post by Gods on Oct 24, 2014 15:37:23 GMT
Why in public?
If an apology is real it should be delivered direct and personally to the individual you are apologising too.
Otherwise it is little more than a media orchestrated pantomime.
"An apology brought to you in association with Bet365, the BBC, Swansea City FC and the Barclays Premier League" Cut to a man talking to a microphone rather than the person to whom he is supposed to be apologising.
It's not how apologies work, in fact it would be a nonsense.
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Post by bathstoke on Oct 24, 2014 15:38:58 GMT
He didn't really have a choice. He was out of order & if he wants more work with the BBC...
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Post by Deleted on Oct 24, 2014 15:39:10 GMT
fair enough now just make your apology in public and then go to the Brit and make a speech in front of the home crowd.....then go to the UN and apologise for any possible political unrest he may have stirred up...then take out a full page in every national media outlet to beg for the public's forgiveness and announce his withdrawal from society???? jesus...he apologised to the person he'd offended, job done! finshed! over! done! now can we move on before it all becomes even more pathetic than it already is? |
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Post by ukcstokie on Oct 24, 2014 15:39:49 GMT
Why in public? If an apology is real it should be delivered direct and personally to the person you are apologising too. Otherwise it is little more than a media orchestrated pantomime. "An apology brought to you in association with Bet365, the BBC and the Barclays Premier League" It would be a nonsense Why does he need to apologise in public? Because he made the accusation in public. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 24, 2014 15:40:42 GMT
Why in public? If an apology is real it should be delivered direct and personally to the person you are apologising too. Otherwise it is little more than a media orchestrated pantomime. "An apology brought to you in association with Bet365, the BBC and the Barclays Premier League" It would be a nonsense Quite right. If Hartson had made a public apology, we would be saying "Yes ok Hartson, but it's Moses you should be apologising to". |
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Post by Malcolm Clarke on Oct 24, 2014 15:43:58 GMT
The Club have made the fact that it has happened public, so it all amounts to the same thing doesn't it ? I'm not sure what making it "in public" could now mean.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 24, 2014 15:54:06 GMT
That's very noble of him.......... still a fat ginger Welsh cunt though  |
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Post by brumstokie on Oct 24, 2014 15:54:31 GMT
It's seems as though the Club are dealing with this in the correct way - including saying virtually nothing about Monk waiting to see what the FA do about him.
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Post by turtlefox on Oct 24, 2014 15:55:34 GMT
The Club have made the fact that it has happened public, so it all amounts to the same thing doesn't it ? I'm not sure what making it "in public" could now mean. Very well said. A public apology would have meant less than saying it in person. |
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Post by Pugsley on Oct 24, 2014 16:00:17 GMT
Why in public? If an apology is real it should be delivered direct and personally to the person you are apologising too. Otherwise it is little more than a media orchestrated pantomime. "An apology brought to you in association with Bet365, the BBC and the Barclays Premier League" It would be a nonsense Why does he need to apologise in public? Because he made the accusation in public. And Stoke have made it public. What is up with people, do you think he should be flogged? Takes a big man to do what he has done - picked up the phone and talked to Victor direct. Fair play, move on. |
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Post by lawrieleslie on Oct 24, 2014 16:01:30 GMT
Love the last paragraph......"the matter is now closed as far as the Club, Moses, Hartson and the BBC are concerned. "............Monk you are still in the firing line but will the FA charge him with improper conduct and bringing the game into disrepute?
But full respect to Hartson. Pity Wenger and his Welsh ewe couldn't have shown the same humility to Ryan four years ago. It would have prevented a lot of bad blood between fans, clubs and media.
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Post by robboleek on Oct 24, 2014 16:02:20 GMT
Thing is he didn't even have the 'heat of the moment' excuse that Monk could have exercised right after the match...... He had a good few hours to have a think about it and still said the wrong fucking thing !!
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Post by spitthedog on Oct 24, 2014 16:06:36 GMT
I like the fact that he went directly to the player, that shows good practice in my book.
Has had the balls to deal with it head on.
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Post by lawrieleslie on Oct 24, 2014 16:07:52 GMT
Thing is he didn't even have the 'heat of the moment' excuse that Monk could have exercised right after the match...... He had a good few hours to have a think about it and still said the wrong fucking thing !! "heat of the moment" could have been Monks way out of this mess after he had those photos of Rangel grabbing Moses shirt shoved in his face on Sunday night/Monday morning. But he has chosen not to so FA should now throw the book at him. |
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Post by sheikhmomo on Oct 24, 2014 16:08:51 GMT
John Cross ?@johncrossmirror · 21m21 minutes ago
@johnhartson10 I think you're very gracious and honourable to do that. I also feel you were entitled to your opinion.
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Post by Gods on Oct 24, 2014 16:10:08 GMT
Why in public? If an apology is real it should be delivered direct and personally to the person you are apologising too. Otherwise it is little more than a media orchestrated pantomime. "An apology brought to you in association with Bet365, the BBC and the Barclays Premier League" It would be a nonsense Why does he need to apologise in public? Because he made the accusation in public. With respect its easy to apologise to a microphone and its utterly meaningless. To do it properly you need to talk to the victim and feel the pain. It sounds like he did that. I could understand an argument which said he should have done it face to face and not over the telephone, but come on folks, we need some perspective, no one died here. |
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Post by boskampsflaps on Oct 24, 2014 16:24:48 GMT
He really should be making a public apology though ! Should he eck, he's allowed an opinion and is employed to give one, maybe due to his allegiances he should have toned them down a little but I don't have a problem with what he said. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 24, 2014 16:25:04 GMT
I was fuming sunday night and thought he was well out of order. It was like fanzone had taken over the punditry. Just a ranting Swansea City supporter. That said,fair play to the bloke. I'm sure he dosnt deserve some of the hatred he's been having on here and other social media. The bloke almost died to cancer and shared it publicly. Up untill last weekend he's always spoken highly of Stoke .
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Post by Paul Spencer on Oct 24, 2014 16:40:29 GMT
Fair play to Peter Coates and the club for pursuing this.
I don't know whether it will make any difference but when we (inevitably) try to sign Victor permanently, maybe this sort of protection from the club shown here might go some way to convincing him we're a decent outfit.
If he and the club feel the matter is now closed, then that really should be the end if it, I think.
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Post by tazi on Oct 24, 2014 16:47:25 GMT
He must surely have felt that it wasn't right whilst having his rant and he's only apologized in an attempt to protect any future media work that there may be. Burning bridges and all that.
Personally, fcuk his hollow apology, means fcuk all.
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Post by FullerMagic on Oct 24, 2014 16:48:48 GMT
John Cross ?@johncrossmirror · 21m21 minutes ago @johnhartson10 I think you're very gracious and honourable to do that. I also feel you were entitled to your opinion. About what you'd expect from that Arsenal-obsessed drone. Wonder what his opinion of this was? |
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Post by swampySCFC on Oct 24, 2014 17:59:03 GMT
Fair do's to Hartson. He's got the balls to speak up ( unless it's the result of Coates' complaint)
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Post by wizzardofdribble on Oct 24, 2014 18:11:14 GMT
Well, well, well, so much for "It's a waste of time complaining it never achieves anything" defeatism spouted on here a few days ago.
I received a reply from the BBC re; my complaint today 'John Hartson has been made aware of the depth of feeling regarding his comments about Victor Moses by the BBC production team etc etc' in other words apologise or you can forget punditry for a living.
Hartson has apologised because he's been told to not because he wanted to.
Well done to all the Stokies who complained to the BBC instead of just coming on here whingeing.
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Post by coates on Oct 24, 2014 18:16:33 GMT
Fair play to him.
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