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Post by crapslinger on Oct 23, 2014 21:38:55 GMT
He was not airing his views on this message board he was in fact talking to the media , not sure they have the same impact nationally what a weapon you are You calling someone a weapon I surely am you are a weapon of the highest calibre as quite a few will on here will quantify.
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Post by coates on Oct 23, 2014 21:45:26 GMT
The p word is such a volatile subject on here.
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Post by johnnysoul60 on Oct 23, 2014 22:18:03 GMT
It's the game that is a mess , was away and watched on TV , at the time thought bang out of order but the bloke grabbed his shirt and 90% go over then , in many ways their pen was as bad , That bloke could also have stayed on his feet . Until there is consistent punishment not much will change
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Post by Pugsley on Oct 23, 2014 23:06:27 GMT
Pulis and his pygmy started this nonsense and it is now ingrained into Ryan. Pulis did nothing to discourage it during his time here. After it affected the team, Hughes sorted it out in one half time of a game. Something Pulis did everything to avoid doing in 7 years here. Sorry, this is one thing attached to our Tony that you simply cannot deny or attach to someone else. Remember, this is the same Tony Pulis that ordered his team to play on the pitch in the zone's Chelsea would, in the run up to the game so the pitch would cut up and disrupt their game. This is the same Tony Pulis who gave Rory Delap and Ryan Shotton towels stitched into their tops to wipe balls with. This is the same Tony Pulis that used to cut the grass longer or shorter depending on the opposition. This is the same Tony Pulis that used to get his teams to bang it long for yardage for long throw ins. I have nothing against gamesmanship in order to gain an advantage. All is fair in love and war. I have a massive problem against hypocritical bastards that try every trick in the book themselves yet moan like drains when others try it. Cheating is cheating whether it is a dive, going down easy or stitching a towel into a top to dry a football. There is not one jot of difference. Anything in order to gain an advantage is cheating to one degree or another. As far as i'm concerned, he can take his opinions and stick them where the sun don't shine. He's not our manager any more and what he has said here has done nothing but go against our club. Let go mate FFS Tony Pulis isn't letting it go is he? A pop at a Stoke player and a pop at the manager. No need to do it at all and totally out of order. It's as plain as day he's massively aggrieved at getting the sack from us. He's done a lot for our club but he's not loved. I wonder why.
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Post by ayem on Oct 24, 2014 0:12:47 GMT
The NBA started fining players for flopping recently and it did reduce occurrences. The league's are very different, and the impact is greater in football, but no professional wants to be labeled a cheater, and no person likes losing money.
The game should be determined by the play, players, and coaches to an extent. I don't like seeing an outcome determined by a ref.
That said, many players will continue to use the tactic ( looking at you Robben)to win a game. Maybe officially labelling them what they are, cheaters, could be a deterrent.
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Post by retired1 on Oct 24, 2014 0:35:42 GMT
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Post by tazi on Oct 24, 2014 2:22:43 GMT
He touches the shirt of Moses in a deliberate fashion and lets it go quickly as if he has touched a piece of red hot coal, at least that's how it looks on the video replay. Ta da.
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Post by tazi on Oct 24, 2014 2:23:55 GMT
He grabs the shirt of Moses in a deliberate fashion and lets it go quickly as if he has touched a piece of red hot coal, at least that's how it looks on the video replay. Ta da. That's better.
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Post by wearestoke80 on Oct 24, 2014 7:07:17 GMT
Tony Pulis isn't letting it go is he? A pop at a Stoke player and a pop at the manager. No need to do it at all and totally out of order. It's as plain as day he's massively aggrieved at getting the sack from us. He's done a lot for our club but he's not loved. I wonder why. Tony pulis is a Stoke legend so you're talking dogshit
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Post by crapslinger on Oct 24, 2014 7:18:31 GMT
Tony Pulis isn't letting it go is he? A pop at a Stoke player and a pop at the manager. No need to do it at all and totally out of order. It's as plain as day he's massively aggrieved at getting the sack from us. He's done a lot for our club but he's not loved. I wonder why. Tony pulis is a Stoke legend so you're talking dogshit Legend's do not come back to undermine present players or managers, he chose to say what he said to the media it was done for a reason, it sounds like bitter sour grapes to me from a former manager.
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Post by RAF on Oct 24, 2014 7:23:25 GMT
Yes I remember Pulis being apoplectic every time Fuller threw himself on the floor. Oh actually no I don't.
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Post by wearestoke80 on Oct 24, 2014 7:44:02 GMT
Tony pulis is a Stoke legend so you're talking dogshit Legend's do not come back to undermine present players or managers, he chose to say what he said to the media it was done for a reason, it sounds like bitter sour grapes to me from a former manager. he was asked a question about diving and he answered it with his honest opinion. You're just using looking for excuses to hate one of the clubs best ever managers
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Post by stokiejoe on Oct 24, 2014 7:55:29 GMT
He has a point but I would prefer a video review there and then. Too late after the match to change the result, particularly with sendings off and penalties.
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Post by elystokie on Oct 24, 2014 8:09:26 GMT
Yes I remember Pulis being apoplectic every time Fuller threw himself on the floor. Oh actually no I don't. H Exactly. Not to mention the fact that part of his tactic when he was in charge of us involved ole Johnny Rubberlegs going down easier than a two bob whore in order to win free kicks in dangerous situations, don't suppose he'll be referencing that any time soon. On a side note it's most amusing to see Geoff removing any doubt whatsoever (not that I personally had any) that he's a WUM.
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Post by Pugsley on Oct 24, 2014 8:20:11 GMT
Tony Pulis isn't letting it go is he? A pop at a Stoke player and a pop at the manager. No need to do it at all and totally out of order. It's as plain as day he's massively aggrieved at getting the sack from us. He's done a lot for our club but he's not loved. I wonder why. Tony pulis is a Stoke legend so you're talking dogshit
Am I really.
There is not one thing in my post that is incorrect, not one.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Oct 24, 2014 8:25:03 GMT
Yer fucking daft wankstains.
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Post by Kjones9 on Oct 24, 2014 8:31:04 GMT
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Post by Pugsley on Oct 24, 2014 8:31:15 GMT
Yer fucking daft wankstains.
Bollocks, poison starting to drip.....
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Post by geoff321 on Oct 24, 2014 8:33:25 GMT
I thought earlier on this thread Pugs you were agreeing with Pulis?
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Post by Pugsley on Oct 24, 2014 8:50:26 GMT
I thought earlier on this thread Pugs you were agreeing with Pulis?
I have sympathy with his views on this but I take exception to him slagging off our players and manager, especially when our club rescued him TWICE from the managerial scrap heap.
He is a SCFC legend but he's not loved.
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Post by Kjones9 on Oct 24, 2014 8:54:22 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Oct 24, 2014 9:09:31 GMT
Asked about it then goes on his usual rant about punishing divers, inferring that moses is a cheat etc.... talking absolute bollocks which will have an adverse impact on the career of a current stoke player. Sorry, who is ungrateful? yeah, played for chelsea and Liverpool...but ALL the prospective future managers of him are going to be put off by what Pulis has said aren't they? nice to see you're talking an equal amount of bollocks as that you're accusing Pulis of mate.
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Post by foster on Oct 24, 2014 9:47:51 GMT
Asked about it then goes on his usual rant about punishing divers, inferring that moses is a cheat etc.... talking absolute bollocks which will have an adverse impact on the career of a current stoke player. Sorry, who is ungrateful? yeah, played for chelsea and Liverpool...but ALL the prospective future managers of him are going to be put off by what Pulis has said aren't they? nice to see you're talking an equal amount of bollocks as that you're accusing Pulis of mate. Adverse impact on Moses career? I hope so. Maybe Chelsea will want rid and we can get him on the cheap. Cheers Tone.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 24, 2014 10:01:56 GMT
Managers are on shaky ground when they comment on these incidents. I wonder if it was more, or less, of a shirt tug than this incident? "Kenny Dalglish has been around long enough to know that a decision or two can go against you. So it was extraordinary to hear him talk as though he was on the verge of going to war against Premier League referees. The penalty that Jon Walters won and scored was harsh but at least debatable, and therefore hardly worthy of the Scotsman's burning anger.
By dropping to the Potteries turf so readily after his shirt had been tugged by Jamie Carragher, Walters gave himself the chance to outshine all the big-name marksmen on show."“Kenny will be as biased about Liverpool as I am about Stoke, it’s always going to be the case.
“I respect his opinion but I don’t know about the penalties, I’ll have to look at them again.”
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Post by Mr_DaftBurger on Oct 24, 2014 10:24:36 GMT
The game should be determined by the play, players, and coaches to an extent. I don't like seeing an outcome determined by a ref. That said, many players will continue to use the tactic ( looking at you Robben)to win a game. Maybe officially labelling them what they are, cheaters, could be a deterrent. Hughes said post match that they had a meting pre-season and it was agreed penalties would not be given unless the player was impeded as he was directly going for the ball. So the manager and refs sort of agreed that the wresting would continue. Oliver seems to have decided that he would make a stand and of course, in choosing Ryan, he will have received a lot of support, and forget the paranoia, for standing up against someone who has continually been identified as a serial offender. As to panels sitting in judgement. This has been discussed and the managers and clubs have decided against it. It's done in Scotland so why not here? BECAUSE THEY DON'T WANT IT! They want to cheat and get advantages whenever they can. It's how their mindset is. The holier than thou brigade may not like it but but we have a player schooled at Chelsea and Liverpool and he felt the tug, obviously, and went down to give US an advantage, for a fucking change! It's footbal in 2014 and nothing will change. Saying that, diving has been going on for decades. as has been identified Franny 'bog roll' Lee a prime example. They're all a bunch of Hypocrites. Oh and Pulis is now just another media whore!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 24, 2014 10:27:03 GMT
How much did Pulis fine Etherington for going down easy with little or no contact against West Ham in the FA Cup quarter final?
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Post by sheikhmomo on Oct 24, 2014 10:34:25 GMT
How much did Pulis fine Etherington for going down easy with little or no contact against West Ham in the FA Cup quarter final? That is the whole fucking point. Monk is a hypocrite, Hughes is a hypocrite, Pulis is a hypocrite.
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Post by chayzenbacon on Oct 24, 2014 10:48:25 GMT
How much did Pulis fine Etherington for going down easy with little or no contact against West Ham in the FA Cup quarter final? That is the whole fucking point. Monk is a hypocrite, Hughes is a hypocrite, Pulis is a hypocrite. At what point in this particular saga has Hughes been hypocritical? I'm not saying he hasn't but if he has I've missed it, whereas it is quite clear that Monk and Pulis have.
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Post by crapslinger on Oct 24, 2014 11:35:51 GMT
Legend's do not come back to undermine present players or managers, he chose to say what he said to the media it was done for a reason, it sounds like bitter sour grapes to me from a former manager. he was asked a question about diving and he answered it with his honest opinion. You're just using looking for excuses to hate one of the clubs best ever managers Tony Pulis and honest 8-|really.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Oct 24, 2014 11:57:37 GMT
That is the whole fucking point. Monk is a hypocrite, Hughes is a hypocrite, Pulis is a hypocrite. At what point in this particular saga has Hughes been hypocritical? I'm not saying he hasn't but if he has I've missed it, whereas it is quite clear that Monk and Pulis have. He's gone bananas on previous occasions and defended Moses this week. All managers will slate divers and then defend their own players, often manufacturing contact where there is none. All top level football managers are top level hypocrites, its part of the job description.
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