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Post by sheikhmomo on Oct 23, 2014 13:31:22 GMT
Pulis was the master of gamesmanship, pushing the rules of the game to within an inch of breaking point. If Moses did that and went down after a whiff of a tug of his shirt, for Pulis to comment on this - no doubt egged on by a journalist after a cheap filler story - then more the fool him. Given it's his former club I thought he'd demonstrate a little more class and not pass comment. I have to say a lot of that is bollocks. Pulis has always spoken out against diving and by and large has managed teams, including us. where it has not been a problem.
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Post by jonnynico on Oct 23, 2014 13:57:03 GMT
Pulis has got fuck all to do with us now so he can just fuck off and mind his own business as far as i'm concerned, like the rest of them.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 23, 2014 14:01:22 GMT
Pulis has got fuck all to do with us now so he can just fuck off and mind his own business as far as i'm concerned, like the rest of them. so if he's asked a direct question by a journalist about a hot fooballing topic in the media he should just say "Sorry i can't answer as no-one apart from those involved with Stoke or Swansea should be allowed to comment i'm afraid"? get a grip!
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Post by crapslinger on Oct 23, 2014 14:05:50 GMT
Watch the video replay lawrie, there's no way that should have been a penalty. I don't expect people will agree with me on here but I bet the vast majority of neutral fans would. This is a Stoke City message board for Stoke City supporters in the main, not for neutral or Vale fans to spout shit get thesen on the a Vale message board where you can discuss your bullshit ideas with like minded jealous half wits.
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Post by crapslinger on Oct 23, 2014 14:09:05 GMT
Pulis was the master of gamesmanship, pushing the rules of the game to within an inch of breaking point. If Moses did that and went down after a whiff of a tug of his shirt, for Pulis to comment on this - no doubt egged on by a journalist after a cheap filler story - then more the fool him. Given it's his former club I thought he'd demonstrate a little more class and not pass comment. I have to say a lot of that is bollocks. Pulis has always spoken out against diving and by and large has managed teams, including us. where it has not been a problem. However slapping nut on your own players was a problem, not sure which would be classed as a more serious trait.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 23, 2014 14:09:59 GMT
I have to say a lot of that is bollocks. Pulis has always spoken out against diving and by and large has managed teams, including us. where it has not been a problem. However slapping nut on your own players was a problem, not sure which would be classed as a more serious trait. Beattie went down far too easily though
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Post by Deleted on Oct 23, 2014 14:11:52 GMT
Tony Pulis. The master of bending the rules.
You can thank this hypocrite for the shadow that is now cast on our captain and team for shirt pulling and grappling in the area at set plays.
The irony.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Oct 23, 2014 14:15:14 GMT
I have to say a lot of that is bollocks. Pulis has always spoken out against diving and by and large has managed teams, including us. where it has not been a problem. However slapping nut on your own players was a problem, not sure which would be classed as a more serious trait. Was it really a 'problem' or was it a one off incident? And what relevance has it to this? You daft fucking wankstain
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Post by Kjones9 on Oct 23, 2014 14:16:54 GMT
He said he wanted to ban cheats. Moses didn't cheat .
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Post by sheikhmomo on Oct 23, 2014 14:17:22 GMT
Tony Pulis. The master of bending the rules. You can thank this hypocrite for the shadow that is now cast on our captain and team for shirt pulling and grappling in the area at set plays. The irony. Yer daft wankstain
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Post by crapslinger on Oct 23, 2014 14:21:40 GMT
However slapping nut on your own players was a problem, not sure which would be classed as a more serious trait. Was it really a 'problem' or was it a one off incident? And what relevance has it to this? You daft fucking wankstain Is assaulting a work college not considered a problem if committed by your messiah ?, try it at work test your theory out and come back with the result
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Post by sheikhmomo on Oct 23, 2014 14:31:27 GMT
Was it really a 'problem' or was it a one off incident? And what relevance has it to this? You daft fucking wankstain Is assaulting a work college not considered a problem if committed by your messiah ?, try it at work test your theory out and come back with the result A problem suggests re-occurrence and repetition of a behaviour or an issue, it's certainly what it means in the context of diving. You're just plucking individual incidents out of the air to reinforce your wanstainery and make yourself look silly.
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Post by crapslinger on Oct 23, 2014 14:37:17 GMT
Is assaulting a work college not considered a problem if committed by your messiah ?, try it at work test your theory out and come back with the result A problem suggests re-occurrence and repetition of a behaviour or an issue, it's certainly what it means in the context of diving. You're just plucking individual incidents out of the air to reinforce your wanstainery and make yourself look silly. Then maybe repeat and persistent divers should be the one's to be punished, in the case of Liverpool last season they had three serial divers no outcry by the media no calls for retrospective action I wonder why, a player on loan to us allegedly dives and all fucking hell is let loose again I wonder why, and what the fuck has any of this has to do with an unemployed ex football manager.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Oct 23, 2014 14:44:21 GMT
A problem suggests re-occurrence and repetition of a behaviour or an issue, it's certainly what it means in the context of diving. You're just plucking individual incidents out of the air to reinforce your wanstainery and make yourself look silly. Then maybe repeat and persistent divers should be the one's to be punished, in the case of Liverpool last season they had three serial divers no outcry by the media no calls for retrospective action I wonder why, a player on loan to us allegedly dives and all fucking hell is let loose again I wonder why, and what the fuck has any of this has to do with an unemployed ex football manager. I'd imagine it was in response to a question by a Welsh journalist and is 100% in line with what he said when he was an employed football manager at Stoke City.
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Post by jezzascfc on Oct 23, 2014 14:54:35 GMT
Pulis has always spoken up against diving, so no inconsistency there. However, he was always one to say that other managers should look after their own players and he'll look after his, and that they should not be outspoken about other club's players. Now he has no club, do those rules not apply any more?
Moses is a Stoke player and the Stoke manager should deal with him. Pulis should stay out of it, or else all he will do is create (even more) enemies of other managers ready for when he does resume his managerial career.
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Post by Pugsley on Oct 23, 2014 14:54:33 GMT
Then maybe repeat and persistent divers should be the one's to be punished, in the case of Liverpool last season they had three serial divers no outcry by the media no calls for retrospective action I wonder why, a player on loan to us allegedly dives and all fucking hell is let loose again I wonder why, and what the fuck has any of this has to do with an unemployed ex football manager. I'd imagine it was in response to a question by a Welsh journalist and is 100% in line with what he said when he was an employed football manager at Stoke City.
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Post by nott1 on Oct 23, 2014 15:00:22 GMT
Tony Pulis. The master of bending the rules. You can thank this hypocrite for the shadow that is now cast on our captain and team for shirt pulling and grappling in the area at set plays. The irony. Pulis is not responsible for our team anymore, Hughes is. Shawcross has been doing this all season, as he and every other defender does every match.
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Post by wearestoke80 on Oct 23, 2014 15:01:30 GMT
He's taken the opportunity to have a go at Hughes and a Stoke player here very clearly here. This won't go down well with Coates. There is no ambiguity about it. This is poor from Pulis and clearly an hangover from his bitterness about his exit and his successor. bullshit
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Post by wearestoke80 on Oct 23, 2014 15:13:40 GMT
The pulis haters need to get a grip
a Stoke city legend
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Post by boskampsflaps on Oct 23, 2014 15:28:44 GMT
Tony Pulis. The master of bending the rules. You can thank this hypocrite for the shadow that is now cast on our captain and team for shirt pulling and grappling in the area at set plays. The irony. Bet he's been on the phone to him every week since he left, 'don't forget to grapple Ryan lad'.
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Post by wearestoke80 on Oct 23, 2014 15:37:25 GMT
Tony Pulis. The master of bending the rules. You can thank this hypocrite for the shadow that is now cast on our captain and team for shirt pulling and grappling in the area at set plays. The irony. What a stupid post Tony pulis worked wonders for this club and all you can do is slag him off Pathetic
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Post by Mr_DaftBurger on Oct 23, 2014 15:40:23 GMT
Pulis for the Swansea job?
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Post by tcdobinghoff on Oct 23, 2014 15:54:39 GMT
Watch the video replay lawrie, there's no way that should have been a penalty. I don't expect people will agree with me on here but I bet the vast majority of neutral fans would. You are certainly correct on that point - until one of their players does the same. And that is the point - it's an opinion and will be coloured by support of the team. The shirt grab, on the other hand, is a fact and cannot be denied as such - a foul and an attempt to illegally stop the player , curious that "neutral" fans aren't very ready to recognise the original offence or to apply the word cheat to that.
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Post by geoff321 on Oct 23, 2014 16:05:52 GMT
He touches the shirt of Moses and lets it go quickly as if he has touched a piece of red hot coal, at least that's how it looks on the video replay.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 23, 2014 16:18:30 GMT
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Oct 23, 2014 16:19:18 GMT
He touches the shirt of Moses and lets it go quickly as if he has touched a piece of red hot coal, at least that's how it looks on the video replay. I don't believe that you can actually be that stupid Geoff so you must clearly be on a wind up. Look at the still photo further up this thread. Rangel has a hand full of Moses' shirt and is pulling, or pushing, with such force that his shirt is halfway up his torso. He might let it go quickly but that's more likely because he realises Moses is going down. He then does the hand holding up 'it wasn't me guv, honest' routine which is a surefire giveaway that he was actually doing something and knew he was in the shit.
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Post by geoff321 on Oct 23, 2014 16:21:45 GMT
Perhaps someone Gravy could post a link to the video replay, don't think I've seen one yet.
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Post by Pugsley on Oct 23, 2014 16:28:21 GMT
Perhaps someone Gravy could post a link to the video replay, don't think I've seen one yet. Just on SSN now. Never ever been a penalty. And don't give me the technical bollocks either.
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Oct 23, 2014 16:28:59 GMT
Perhaps someone Gravy could post a link to the video replay, don't think I've seen one yet. What difference will it make though. The still photo is conclusive proof that Rangel fouled Moses. Penalty. End of debate.
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Post by chiefdelilah on Oct 23, 2014 16:29:04 GMT
rob, 99% of refs would not have given either penalty, so that would be consistency. That's based on literally nothing Geoff. I personally believe that refs who see a shirt pull in that sort of situation from open play are going to give a penalty because it's, you know, their job to.
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