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Post by jpm64 on Oct 22, 2014 17:40:27 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Oct 22, 2014 17:46:11 GMT
How can they love Nazis, they've just done a lovely calypso song in a cod Jamaican accent. Nothing remotely racist or offensive about that! Besides, Farage has been honing his manifesto image for the minorities vote.  |
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Post by jpm64 on Oct 22, 2014 17:48:42 GMT
How can they love Nazis, they've just done a lovely calypso song in a cod Jamaican accent. Nothing remotely racist or offensive about that! Besides, Farage has been honing his manifesto image for the minorities vote. Of course how silly of me  Interesting to note they seem quite happy/desperate to accept handouts/funding from the EU they detest so much  |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 22, 2014 18:13:16 GMT
To be fair to them, we'd all take free cash!
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Post by jpm64 on Oct 22, 2014 18:16:04 GMT
To be fair to them, we'd all take free cash! True although I think most people would draw the line at jumping in to bed with Holocaust deniers to get it.... Not our Nige though |
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Post by ukcstokie on Oct 22, 2014 23:11:42 GMT
Obviously UKIP have been forced into this alliance aren't very happy about it. "Mr Nuttall, speaking from Brussels, said the nature of the European Parliament, with the need for parties to join larger cross-national groups to get a better hearing, meant having to "cooperate with people you wouldn't necessarily cooperate with in the UK". He added: "That's the nature of European politics. It's not like the UK. Unfortunately it's realpolitik out here."" Being in an alliance doesn't mean you agree with everything - see our current collation government for example. It's good to see the EU supporting democracy: "Ms Grigule said she left EFDD as she disagreed with Mr Farage's overpowering leadership and the mistreatment of the group by parliamentary authorities." www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/nigel-farage-defends-outspoken-polish-mep-as-having-saved-ukip-9808806.html Glad to see JPM that you answered my points on the other thread. |
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Post by jpm64 on Oct 23, 2014 7:44:43 GMT
Obviously UKIP have been forced in to this alliance aren't very happy about it. "Mr Nuttall, speaking from Brussels, said the nature of the European Parliament, with the need for parties to join larger cross-national groups to get a better hearing, meant having to "cooperate with people you wouldn't necessarily cooperate with in the UK". He added: "That's the nature of European politics. It's not like the UK. Unfortunately it's realpolitik out here."" Being in an alliance doesn't mean you agree with everything - see our current collation government for example. It's good to see the EU supporting democracy: "Ms Grigule said she left EFDD as she disagreed with Mr Farage's overpowering leadership and the mistreatment of the group by parliamentary authorities." www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/nigel-farage-defends-outspoken-polish-mep-as-having-saved-ukip-9808806.html Glad to see JPM that you answered my points on the other thread. Wow I honestly didn't think even you would try and defend UKIP over this !! Seems I'm wrong and that you are fine with them having alliances with Neo Nazi Holocaust denying racists Please explain why you feel they were forced in to this ?? As for answering your points on the other thread I think this sordid little agreement by UKIP in order to grab EU cash more than does that !!! |
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Post by salopstick on Oct 23, 2014 7:54:41 GMT
I bet fraise is itching for a return
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Post by mcf on Oct 23, 2014 8:03:17 GMT
To be fair to them, we'd all take free cash! you might take it but then surely you would plough it into the NHS. |
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Post by salopstick on Oct 23, 2014 8:19:12 GMT
Obviously UKIP have been forced in to this alliance aren't very happy about it. "Mr Nuttall, speaking from Brussels, said the nature of the European Parliament, with the need for parties to join larger cross-national groups to get a better hearing, meant having to "cooperate with people you wouldn't necessarily cooperate with in the UK". He added: "That's the nature of European politics. It's not like the UK. Unfortunately it's realpolitik out here."" Being in an alliance doesn't mean you agree with everything - see our current collation government for example. It's good to see the EU supporting democracy: "Ms Grigule said she left EFDD as she disagreed with Mr Farage's overpowering leadership and the mistreatment of the group by parliamentary authorities." www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/nigel-farage-defends-outspoken-polish-mep-as-having-saved-ukip-9808806.html Glad to see JPM that you answered my points on the other thread. Wow I honestly didn't think even you would try and defend UKIP over this !! Seems I'm wrong and that you are fine with them having alliances with Neo Nazi Holocaust denying racists Please explain why you feel they were forced in to this ?? As for answering your points on the other thread I think this sordid little agreement by UKIP in order to grab EU cash more than does that !!! looking beyond the alliance, it shows the corruption of the EU Parliment where the leader gets fined 10 days allowance. wtf i thought the allowance was an allowance for expenditure not wages in a different phrase, and why do alliance groups get extra funding the renumeration for the EU parliment is immoral they are all coining it in Caroline Lucas cost taxpayers £300,000 per year for 10 years as a euro MP the sooner we have a proper debate and referendum on letting the british electorate choose on membership the better. loads of great points for staying in, but too many negatives that require our choice |
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Post by jpm64 on Oct 23, 2014 8:31:30 GMT
Wow I honestly didn't think even you would try and defend UKIP over this !! Seems I'm wrong and that you are fine with them having alliances with Neo Nazi Holocaust denying racists Please explain why you feel they were forced in to this ?? As for answering your points on the other thread I think this sordid little agreement by UKIP in order to grab EU cash more than does that !!! looking beyond the alliance, it shows the corruption of the EU Parliment where the leader gets fined 10 days allowance. wtf i thought the allowance was an allowance for expenditure not wages in a different phrase, and why do alliance groups get extra funding the renumeration for the EU parliment is immoral they are all coining it in Caroline Lucas cost taxpayers £300,000 per year for 10 years as a euro MP the sooner we have a proper debate and referendum on letting the british electorate choose on membership the better. loads of great points for staying in, but too many negatives that require our choice Why are you "Looking beyond the alliance " when that is clearly what this thread is about ? "Nigel Farage dubbed his newest European Parliament group recruit a saviour despite the Polish MEP Robert Iwaszkiewicz having made a flippant remark about Hitler and domestic violence." Doesn't sound like Nigel feels they were " forced " in to alliance ukcstokie!!! |
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Post by salopstick on Oct 23, 2014 9:18:48 GMT
looking beyond the alliance, it shows the corruption of the EU Parliment where the leader gets fined 10 days allowance. wtf i thought the allowance was an allowance for expenditure not wages in a different phrase, and why do alliance groups get extra funding the renumeration for the EU parliment is immoral they are all coining it in Caroline Lucas cost taxpayers £300,000 per year for 10 years as a euro MP the sooner we have a proper debate and referendum on letting the british electorate choose on membership the better. loads of great points for staying in, but too many negatives that require our choice Why are you "Looking beyond the alliance " when that is clearly what this thread is about ? "Nigel Farage dubbed his newest European Parliament group recruit a saviour despite the Polish MEP Robert Iwaszkiewicz having made a flippant remark about Hitler and domestic violence." Doesn't sound like Nigel feels they were " forced " in to alliance ukcstokie!!! its been done for money so you have to look beyond the alliance. the link YOU provided says its all about the money or did you miss the last 4 words of YOUR links headline |
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Post by ukcstokie on Oct 23, 2014 9:25:01 GMT
Obviously UKIP have been forced in to this alliance aren't very happy about it. "Mr Nuttall, speaking from Brussels, said the nature of the European Parliament, with the need for parties to join larger cross-national groups to get a better hearing, meant having to "cooperate with people you wouldn't necessarily cooperate with in the UK". He added: "That's the nature of European politics. It's not like the UK. Unfortunately it's realpolitik out here."" Being in an alliance doesn't mean you agree with everything - see our current collation government for example. It's good to see the EU supporting democracy: "Ms Grigule said she left EFDD as she disagreed with Mr Farage's overpowering leadership and the mistreatment of the group by parliamentary authorities." www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/nigel-farage-defends-outspoken-polish-mep-as-having-saved-ukip-9808806.html Glad to see JPM that you answered my points on the other thread. Wow I honestly didn't think even you would try and defend UKIP over this !! Seems I'm wrong and that you are fine with them having alliances with Neo Nazi Holocaust denying racists Please explain why you feel they were forced in to this ?? As for answering your points on the other thread I think this sordid little agreement by UKIP in order to grab EU cash more than does that !!! So do you think Osborne, Cameron et al agree with the policies of the center-left Lib-Dems? Do you even think they like them? The current coalition can barely tolerate each other - and I suspect that this is exactly the case here. This is an alliance of necessity. They have been forced into this so they can keep their recognised political grouping - not as the Guardian (and yourself) says - just for the money.The grouping allows them to speak in parliament. You can see by the quotes from Paul Nuttall that they're not comfortable with this - even if many of the allegations have been denied (shame the Guardian couldn't find time to mention that eh?). "Farage accused Martin Schulz, the president of the European parliament, of acting as the head of a “banana republic”. He said that pressure was placed on Grigule to stand down if she wanted to lead a parliamentary delegation to Kazakhstan." Democracy in action? The whole sorry EU is riddled with anti-democratic processes and seedy pocket filling - but I guess you're happy with that? PS I'm not a member of UKIP. I like some of what they stand for. I object to the way that the media and the left try and paint them as racists - when they clearly are not. I also object to the whole undemocratic nature of the European Federalist project. The amount of money those in service in Europe get (and having worked and lived in Brussels and observed first hand - like the schoolgirl hookers lined up for the EU dignitaries, the limousines rolling round the city - with the police stopping the rest of the people so they don't get held up), the troughs of money, the fact that the people of this country have never been consulted on this project. But no, let just label them as racists because they're fed up of the open door policy perpetuated by Labour (to increase their vote) and the Tories (to keep wages down for their pals in the city). |
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Post by jpm64 on Oct 23, 2014 10:14:04 GMT
Why are you "Looking beyond the alliance " when that is clearly what this thread is about ? "Nigel Farage dubbed his newest European Parliament group recruit a saviour despite the Polish MEP Robert Iwaszkiewicz having made a flippant remark about Hitler and domestic violence." Doesn't sound like Nigel feels they were " forced " in to alliance ukcstokie!!! its been done for money so you have to look beyond the alliance. the link YOU provided says its all about the money or did you miss the last 4 words of YOUR links headline No I have not missed the fact it was done for money as my second post in this thread confirms ( Although uckstokie seems to think it is not the case ) The point is who they are prepared to jump in to bed with to secure the access to the money...... Surely you can see that ? |
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Post by jpm64 on Oct 23, 2014 10:19:30 GMT
Wow I honestly didn't think even you would try and defend UKIP over this !! Seems I'm wrong and that you are fine with them having alliances with Neo Nazi Holocaust denying racists Please explain why you feel they were forced in to this ?? As for answering your points on the other thread I think this sordid little agreement by UKIP in order to grab EU cash more than does that !!! So do you think Osborne, Cameron et al agree with the policies of the center-left Lib-Dems? Do you even think they like them? The current coalition can barely tolerate each other - and I suspect that this is exactly the case here. This is an alliance of necessity. They have been forced into this so they can keep their recognised political grouping - not as the Guardian (and yourself) says - just for the money.The grouping allows them to speak in parliament. You can see by the quotes from Paul Nuttall that they're not comfortable with this - even if many of the allegations have been denied (shame the Guardian couldn't find time to mention that eh?). "Farage accused Martin Schulz, the president of the European parliament, of acting as the head of a “banana republic”. He said that pressure was placed on Grigule to stand down if she wanted to lead a parliamentary delegation to Kazakhstan." Democracy in action? The whole sorry EU is riddled with anti-democratic processes and seedy pocket filling - but I guess you're happy with that? PS I'm not a member of UKIP. I like some of what they stand for. I object to the way that the media and the left try and paint them as racists - when they clearly are not. I also object to the whole undemocratic nature of the European Federalist project. The amount of money those in service in Europe get (and having worked and lived in Brussels and observed first hand - like the schoolgirl hookers lined up for the EU dignitaries, the limousines rolling round the city - with the police stopping the rest of the people so they don't get held up), the troughs of money, the fact that the people of this country have never been consulted on this project. But no, let just label them as racists because they're fed up of the open door policy perpetuated by Labour (to increase their vote) and the Tories (to keep wages down for their pals in the city). "The amount of money those in service in Europe get" "the troughs of money, the fact that the people of this country have never been consulted on this project." Oh the irony ! Farage and his gang are more than happy to ensure they get their share and don't care which nazi, racist, holocaust denier they welcome to get their hand on it ! |
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Post by salopstick on Oct 23, 2014 10:24:36 GMT
its been done for money so you have to look beyond the alliance. the link YOU provided says its all about the money or did you miss the last 4 words of YOUR links headline No I have not missed the fact it was done for money as my second post in this thread confirms ( Although uckstokie seems to think it is not the case ) The point is who they are prepared to jump in to bed with to secure the access to the money...... Surely you can see that ? is that the same as not investigating child abuse to keep votes? |
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Post by jpm64 on Oct 23, 2014 11:31:19 GMT
No I have not missed the fact it was done for money as my second post in this thread confirms ( Although uckstokie seems to think it is not the case ) The point is who they are prepared to jump in to bed with to secure the access to the money...... Surely you can see that ? is that the same as not investigating child abuse to keep votes? Not the same but it's as bad. If you care to remember I have happily condemned the actions of local politicians, police and social services in South Yorkshire but once again you attempt to muddy the waters by changing the subject to one you feel more comfortable with Be nice to see you condemn Farage and his racist party for cozying up to Neo-Nazi's in Europe ! |
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Post by salopstick on Oct 23, 2014 11:37:37 GMT
is that the same as not investigating child abuse to keep votes? Not the same but it's as bad. If you care to remember I have happily condemned the actions of local politicians, police and social services in South Yorkshire but once again you attempt to muddy the waters by changing the subject to one you feel more comfortable with Be nice to see you condemn Farage and his racist party for cozying up to Neo-Nazi's in Europe ! im happy to condemn him for coseying up for money i will condemn him for being part of the eu parliment, i doint buy the argument he can do more damage from with in and i will condemn him when he comes out and supports the neo nazi-s view but as it is he hasnt supported their views yet. im against the far right as i am the far left both groups equally bad but you can only condemn them by what they do, if we had guilty by associsation then everybody would be condemned for somthing |
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Post by wizzardofdribble on Oct 23, 2014 12:43:20 GMT
[/quote] Super super John Super Johny Walters |
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Post by jpm64 on Oct 29, 2014 9:39:17 GMT
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Post by wizzardofdribble on Oct 29, 2014 12:16:54 GMT
The Telegraph are sticking the boot into UKIP to help The Conservative Party though, not because they disagee with UKIP who are probably too Left Wing for The Telegraph |
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Post by raven on Nov 5, 2014 9:01:05 GMT
Lets not forget for many years the Labour party fawned over the blood stained monsters in the Kremlin
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