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Post by ukcstokie on Oct 22, 2014 10:39:44 GMT
www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-29693346Just HTF is that racist? Because he sings with a Jamaican accent? He's not taking the piss is he? If he sang with an Australian accent would that be racist? This is the very shit which is the problem - people deliberately taking things the wrong way so that they can play the racism card.
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Post by jpm64 on Oct 22, 2014 10:47:09 GMT
www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-29693346Just HTF is that racist? Because he sings with a Jamaican accent? He's not taking the piss is he? If he sang with an Australian accent would that be racist? This is the very shit which is the problem - people deliberately taking things the wrong way so that they can play the racism card. Why didn't he go the whole hog and " Black up" too What a complete load of cringe worthy shit from that wanker Read
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Post by ukcstokie on Oct 22, 2014 11:01:40 GMT
You may not agree with the views - but HTF is it racist?
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Post by salopstick on Oct 22, 2014 11:03:03 GMT
its been withdrawn
UKIP are adapting their strategies depending where they are, trying to be tory down south and labour up north.
i expect both labour and tory to go all offensive in the run up. i still maintain they would be better served as an anti eu lobby group, forcing the main parties to look at eu issues
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Post by jpm64 on Oct 22, 2014 11:05:36 GMT
You may not agree with the views - but HTF is it racist? Is that a serious question ??
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Post by ukcstokie on Oct 22, 2014 11:08:33 GMT
You may not agree with the views - but HTF is it racist? Is that a serious question ?? Yes. It's not taking the piss. He's singing a Calypso song with a Jamaican accent (like when people sing rap or C&W with an American accent). Please tell.
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Post by bathstoke on Oct 22, 2014 11:10:00 GMT
Blokes got no insight. Sanctioned Relax, but failed to ban himself!?! "Here, let me help you with that speck in your eye..."
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Post by jpm64 on Oct 22, 2014 11:16:08 GMT
Is that a serious question ?? Yes. It's not taking the piss. He's singing a Calypso song with a Jamaican accent (like when people sing rap or C&W with an American accent). Please tell. Lyrics include.... open the borders let them all come in, illegal immigrants in every town I suppose you'd like to see the Black and White Minstrels to make a comeback too ?
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Post by bathstoke on Oct 22, 2014 11:16:42 GMT
Is that a serious question ?? Yes. It's not taking the piss. He's singing a Calypso song with a Jamaican accent (like when people sing rap or C&W with an American accent). Please tell. There's a difference between imitation & aping!!!
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Post by ukcstokie on Oct 22, 2014 11:21:23 GMT
Yes. It's not taking the piss. He's singing a Calypso song with a Jamaican accent (like when people sing rap or C&W with an American accent). Please tell. Lyrics include.... open the borders let them all come in, illegal immigrants in every town I suppose you'd like to see the Black and White Minstrels to make a comeback too ? So you have no problem with illegal immigrants then? Are there not illegal immigrants across the UK? Just what the fuck has the "Black and White Minstrel Show" got to do with this. I suppose you're shouting racist whenever you hear a white person doing the pseudo American black accent while rapping then?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 22, 2014 11:25:54 GMT
I believe the proceeds of this record we're going to go to charity but this has now been stopped which is a great shame. It's another example of how determined and ridiculous this pro PC lobbyist group is to stamp on anything they do not agree with. They try and tell everyone how we should think , what we should believe and what political party is acceptable and what is not. There is however millions of people out there who will never conform to such undermining indoctrination no matter how forceful or extreme it is. By the time the next election comes around I expect all the main political parties will be sympathetic to the ideology that coming out of Europe is the best thing for this country in the long term and to drastically curb immigration from all corners of the globe. Whether this process is a good idea or not is anyone's guess as the implications and complications of it all too numerous to identify. What is clear however , is that the British people have had enough of the diluted form of nationalistic pride we all once had and the standards that once made this sovereign state stand out from the crowd. The over crowding in our cities , the falling standards in education , the cost of the health service , the unprecedented rise in terrorist threats will all add strength to where the electorate goes from here and only a myopic fool would argue against it. I am seriously beginning to believe that our membership in Europe is soon to be ended permanently and we will be forced into going it alone. Cameron is at the crossroads and he is about to make that decision.
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Post by lordb on Oct 22, 2014 12:42:54 GMT
Lyrics include.... open the borders let them all come in, illegal immigrants in every town I suppose you'd like to see the Black and White Minstrels to make a comeback too ? So you have no problem with illegal immigrants then? Are there not illegal immigrants across the UK? Just what the fuck has the "Black and White Minstrel Show" got to do with this. I suppose you're shouting racist whenever you hear a white person doing the pseudo American black accent while rapping then? You sure this isn't a wind up? You genuinly can't see the parrallel to the Black & White Minstral Show? wow.
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Post by ukcstokie on Oct 22, 2014 13:18:14 GMT
So you have no problem with illegal immigrants then? Are there not illegal immigrants across the UK? Just what the fuck has the "Black and White Minstrel Show" got to do with this. I suppose you're shouting racist whenever you hear a white person doing the pseudo American black accent while rapping then? You sure this isn't a wind up? You genuinly can't see the parrallel to the Black & White Minstral Show? wow. What there's no difference to dancers blacking up with comic makeup and a bloke singing a Calypso song with an accent appropriate to Calypso? Really?
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Post by ukcstokie on Oct 22, 2014 13:51:41 GMT
All the innuendo that UKIP are racist.
I guess this proves it for you:
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Post by jpm64 on Oct 22, 2014 14:34:12 GMT
All the innuendo that UKIP are racist. I guess this proves it for you: Is that supposed to convince me UKIP are not racist ?? Do you really think people are that stupid !!
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Post by ukcstokie on Oct 22, 2014 15:13:04 GMT
All the innuendo that UKIP are racist. I guess this proves it for you: Is that supposed to convince me UKIP are not racist ?? Do you really think people are that stupid !!
What - just because UKIP are multiracial party that doesn't have racist policies? I guess you're harder to convince than that.
Just because people want more control on immigration doesn't mean they are racist.
Just because a party has some members who are racist (as pretty much all parties do - Tory, Labour even Lib Dems), doesn't mean that the party is racist.
Just because you object to some non-PC language - which quite frankly isn't racist - doesn't make UKIP racist.
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Post by desman2 on Oct 22, 2014 22:25:55 GMT
Some real sensitive people on here.
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Post by adi on Oct 22, 2014 22:35:41 GMT
God UKIP are racists yes but our govt need to enforce tighter controls. Would I swap then for UKIP? Fuck no
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Post by adi on Oct 22, 2014 22:36:34 GMT
Is that supposed to convince me UKIP are not racist ?? Do you really think people are that stupid !!
What - just because UKIP are multiracial party that doesn't have racist policies? I guess you're harder to convince than that.
Just because people want more control on immigration doesn't mean they are racist.
Just because a party has some members who are racist (as pretty much all parties do - Tory, Labour even Lib Dems), doesn't mean that the party is racist.
Just because you object to some non-PC language - which quite frankly isn't racist - doesn't make UKIP racist.
Lol
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Post by ukcstokie on Oct 22, 2014 22:46:19 GMT
God UKIP are racists yes but our govt need to enforce tighter controls. Would I swap then for UKIP? Fuck no And what evidence do you have for this view? Similar to the earlier video - people shouting racist at a multi-racial UKIP gathering. But don't let the facts get in the way of the lines the other parties and most of the media have been feeding the public for the last few years.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 22, 2014 23:23:24 GMT
Yes. It's not taking the piss. He's singing a Calypso song with a Jamaican accent (like when people sing rap or C&W with an American accent). Please tell. Lyrics include.... open the borders let them all come in, illegal immigrants in every town I suppose you'd like to see the Black and White Minstrels to make a comeback too ? Well,as early as 1964 the show was attracting 21 million viewers . Given the subject matter currently available then the answer maybe surprisingly yes. Personally , as a kid I never liked it . Not because I ever associated it with racism , but because I'd never heard the word racism or liked musicals or dancing. I still don't but some people are more keen to flog the message above everything else. The publics perception on things were far different to what they are now , and was not as racist as many would have you believe. 21 million viewers is not easy to explain away ...almost half the population at the time.
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Post by desman2 on Oct 23, 2014 0:44:31 GMT
I thought there were non black people from the carribean who had that accent. Why is it that the hysterically offended always fail to see the wider picture.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 23, 2014 10:09:58 GMT
I see the bigger picture here. Just who are the people wanting to buy a song sung by Mike Reid????
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Post by starkiller on Oct 23, 2014 16:23:24 GMT
I believe the proceeds of this record we're going to go to charity but this has now been stopped which is a great shame. It's another example of how determined and ridiculous this pro PC lobbyist group is to stamp on anything they do not agree with. They try and tell everyone how we should think , what we should believe and what political party is acceptable and what is not. There is however millions of people out there who will never conform to such undermining indoctrination no matter how forceful or extreme it is. By the time the next election comes around I expect all the main political parties will be sympathetic to the ideology that coming out of Europe is the best thing for this country in the long term and to drastically curb immigration from all corners of the globe. Whether this process is a good idea or not is anyone's guess as the implications and complications of it all too numerous to identify. What is clear however , is that the British people have had enough of the diluted form of nationalistic pride we all once had and the standards that once made this sovereign state stand out from the crowd. The over crowding in our cities , the falling standards in education , the cost of the health service , the unprecedented rise in terrorist threats will all add strength to where the electorate goes from here and only a myopic fool would argue against it. I am seriously beginning to believe that our membership in Europe is soon to be ended permanently and we will be forced into going it alone. Cameron is at the crossroads and he is about to make that decision. It's called reverse psychology. And what you end up with is more extreme, nationalistic, war-supporting bigots, and a more divided people.
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Post by kbillyh on Oct 23, 2014 17:47:40 GMT
I believe the proceeds of this record we're going to go to charity but this has now been stopped which is a great shame. It's another example of how determined and ridiculous this pro PC lobbyist group is to stamp on anything they do not agree with. They try and tell everyone how we should think , what we should believe and what political party is acceptable and what is not. There is however millions of people out there who will never conform to such undermining indoctrination no matter how forceful or extreme it is. By the time the next election comes around I expect all the main political parties will be sympathetic to the ideology that coming out of Europe is the best thing for this country in the long term and to drastically curb immigration from all corners of the globe. Whether this process is a good idea or not is anyone's guess as the implications and complications of it all too numerous to identify. What is clear however , is that the British people have had enough of the diluted form of nationalistic pride we all once had and the standards that once made this sovereign state stand out from the crowd. The over crowding in our cities , the falling standards in education , the cost of the health service , the unprecedented rise in terrorist threats will all add strength to where the electorate goes from here and only a myopic fool would argue against it. I am seriously beginning to believe that our membership in Europe is soon to be ended permanently and we will be forced into going it alone. Cameron is at the crossroads and he is about to make that decision. Charity .....My arse. Fucking liars more like trying to whip you all up and succeeding. Attachment Deleted
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Oct 23, 2014 18:49:27 GMT
UKIP are racist the song is overtly racist But worse than that it's a dreadful tune written and sung by a dreadful man.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 23, 2014 19:53:20 GMT
it's not as black and white as it seems
TEST
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Post by Deleted on Oct 23, 2014 19:56:55 GMT
I thought there were non black people from the carribean who had that accent. Why is it that the hysterically offended always fail to see the wider picture. Hear Here, there is a AA guy that stands outside Sainsbury's in Hayes, Middlesex, that looks like chuuby brown, but when he speaks he has a broad carribbean accent... TEST
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Post by desman2 on Oct 23, 2014 20:58:23 GMT
I thought there were non black people from the carribean who had that accent. Why is it that the hysterically offended always fail to see the wider picture. Hear Here, there is a AA guy that stands outside Sainsbury's in Hayes, Middlesex, that looks like chuuby brown, but when he speaks he has a broad carribbean accent... TEST Because those who object only see or hear things in a stereotypical way. All they see is black people and thats why i never listen to their self righteousness
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Oct 23, 2014 21:31:24 GMT
I thought there were non black people from the carribean who had that accent. Why is it that the hysterically offended always fail to see the wider picture. Hear Here, there is a AA guy that stands outside Sainsbury's in Hayes, Middlesex, that looks like chuuby brown, but when he speaks he has a broad carribbean accent... TEST And presumably that's how they normally speak. Mike Read however, doesn't. Hence the difference.
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