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Post by upthefud on Oct 19, 2014 19:29:32 GMT
We kick up a stink when opposition players dive so we can't be ignore our own doing it even if it turned the game in our favour. He cheated the Swansea fans who paid good money to come to Stoke today.
I'm not saying Bony should get away with it either obviously.
I love Moses but all professional fouls should come with a one game ban
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Oct 19, 2014 19:31:19 GMT
He didn't gone one after a blatant foul on him v Newcastle so you would have to give him one back for that
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Post by Sergeant Muttley on Oct 19, 2014 19:32:49 GMT
Have alook at the BBC website and i think you might change your mind on the pen mate.Rangel had hold of Moses shirt at the time.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 19, 2014 19:33:44 GMT
We kick up a stink when opposition players dive so we can't be ignore our own doing it even if it turned the game in our favour. He cheated the Swansea fans who paid good money to come to Stoke today. I'm not saying Bony should get away with it either obviously. I love Moses but all professional fouls should come with a one game ban If football is to become a sport again and not just a TV-cash riddled business, I totally agree. Will never happen though. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 19, 2014 19:34:06 GMT
Clear penalty. Shirt pulling is a foul and a yellow card offence.  |
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Post by wuzza on Oct 19, 2014 19:35:12 GMT
Various neutrals on the radio have expressed the opinion that it was indeed a penalty .... so I wouldnt be too quick to castigate Moses.
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Post by Paul Spencer on Oct 19, 2014 19:35:26 GMT
We kick up a stink when opposition players dive so we can't be ignore our own doing it even if it turned the game in our favour. He cheated the Swansea fans who paid good money to come to Stoke today. I'm not saying Bony should get away with it either obviously. I love Moses but all professional fouls should come with a one game ban
Nah, we win as a club, therefore we cheat as a club ... we should do the right thing and hold our collective hands up and ask the Premier League to deduct points from us and award them to Swansea instead.
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Post by stokiesteve on Oct 19, 2014 19:35:29 GMT
Is that shot the actually penalty though?
If it is, I completely agree onlooker.
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Post by roberthuth4 on Oct 19, 2014 19:35:46 GMT
Didnt think it was a penno personally but ban. Fuck sake, you must be on a wind up
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Post by chiefdelilah on Oct 19, 2014 19:35:57 GMT
It was a penalty.
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Post by Kjones9 on Oct 19, 2014 19:37:03 GMT
D-.
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Post by sarniastokie on Oct 19, 2014 19:37:50 GMT
Arsenal would be unable to put out a team if diving carried a one game ban.
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Post by lawrieleslie on Oct 19, 2014 19:38:47 GMT
I hate cheating as well. Problem is that Moses has come from fashionable Chesea via the Bindippers where cheating, diving, conning and surrounding the ref is the norm and actually encouraged pArticularly by Brenda. We need to gently somehow ween him into the Stoke way of football. Look on the bright side .......the peno could be the difference between us being also rans and a EUFA cup place come May.
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Post by mightyone on Oct 19, 2014 19:38:59 GMT
Nice one. Please send the picture to a certain Mr Monk !!
I at first thought it wasn't a penalty but just shows with a second look how wrong we can all be.
Thanks for the photo.
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Post by upthefud on Oct 19, 2014 19:39:04 GMT
Obviously it's all irrelevant because it'll never happen.
Will you all be this placid at Southampton if a similar incident goes against us?
I seem to remember we took Sterlings diving in good spirits at the Brit last year?
Diving is cheating regardless of who you play for. If denying a goal scoring opportunity is a red then diving to con a pen should be viewed the same way IMHO
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Post by bayernoatcake on Oct 19, 2014 19:40:23 GMT
Looked like a massive dive live.
I still haven't found my button where if my shirt gets tugged, my knees buckle.....
But I've been saying our players need to dive more and they do. In this day and age, that today is enough for a penalty. I aren't convinced it's one but here we are!
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Post by chiefdelilah on Oct 19, 2014 19:42:08 GMT
A shirt tug is a foul.
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Post by upthefud on Oct 19, 2014 19:42:49 GMT
Have alook at the BBC website and i think you might change your mind on the pen mate.Rangel had hold of Moses shirt at the time. I'll see it on MOTD tonight mate, but you can't pretend that it's enough to make you fall over. I love Moses but I can't defend him here. Just imagine Dyer did that against us and we lost 2-1. How would you feel? |
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Post by stokesaint1 on Oct 19, 2014 19:42:59 GMT
Looked like a penalty at the time and still think it was after seeing on the box. The referee was only yards away and had no hesitation in giving it, he had to get something right today, perhaps that was it, cos he got little else right. I'd give the ref three out of ten today, whistle mad.
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Post by Squeekster on Oct 19, 2014 19:45:12 GMT
Looked like a massive dive live. I still haven't found my button where if my shirt gets tugged, my knees buckle..... But I've been saying our players need to dive more and they do. In this day and age, that today is enough for a penalty. I aren't convinced it's one but here we are! Correct mate if you can't beat em join em! Unfortunately that's how it is! |
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Post by Sergeant Muttley on Oct 19, 2014 19:46:03 GMT
Have alook at the BBC website and i think you might change your mind on the pen mate.Rangel had hold of Moses shirt at the time. I'll see it on MOTD tonight mate, but you can't pretend that it's enough to make you fall over. I love Moses but I can't defend him here. Just imagine Dyer did that against us and we lost 2-1. How would you feel? At the time i thought it was a dive and i couldn't understand why he gone down in live play but having seen that picture i can now understand why he did.I'm not saying its right but how many times have we been on the receiving end of such decisions? |
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Post by march4 on Oct 19, 2014 19:46:41 GMT
Listening to 5live after the game, they felt ours was more of a penalty than Swansea's.
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Post by jeycov on Oct 19, 2014 19:47:15 GMT
A certain manager fined his players for diving!
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Post by bayernoatcake on Oct 19, 2014 19:50:05 GMT
A certain manager fined his players for diving! Yet they still it....well Adam!  |
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Post by Jamo on the wing on Oct 19, 2014 19:53:07 GMT
What about Bony, presumably he should be facing retribution too then for falling over despite being stronger than an ox.
They're either both penalties or neither are.
I'll be honest and say I'm not sure anymore.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 19, 2014 19:53:22 GMT
Clear penalty. Shirt pulling is a foul and a yellow card offence. Picture says it all, if you pull a players shirt, it's a foul. |
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Post by upthefud on Oct 19, 2014 19:53:26 GMT
For all those justifying it:
WE GO 1-0 UP AWAY AT THE LIBERTY, NATHAN DYER DOES EXACTLY WHAT MOSES DOES AND WE LOSE 2-1
How do we react?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 19, 2014 19:53:31 GMT
If it happened against us we would be livid and calling Moses everything under the sun. Monk is a hypocrite though and has forgotten about Chico Flores.
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Post by estrangedsonoffaye on Oct 19, 2014 19:53:38 GMT
In my opinion, neither were penalties. Bony was giving as good as he got before letting himself be pushed over and Moses had his shirt pulled before throwing himself to the ground. As I said, both were soft, but according to the letter of the law it could be said that they were both fouls.
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Post by lancer on Oct 19, 2014 19:53:59 GMT
Looked like a penalty at the time and still think it was after seeing on the box. The referee was only yards away and had no hesitation in giving it, he had to get something right today, perhaps that was it, cos he got little else right. I'd give the ref three out of ten today, whistle mad. Bloody hell, 3 out of 10 for the ref! Is he your Dad?  |
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