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Post by atbreakofday on Oct 15, 2014 18:45:24 GMT
Play Wilson there and huth centre back. Wilson played midfield under hughes prior to huths injury.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2014 18:55:21 GMT
Play Wilson there and huth centre back. Wilson played midfield under hughes prior to huths injury. Not very well in the end. Sidwell or Cameron are the only options as it stand. Not disappointed with either to be fair.
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Post by cobhamstokey on Oct 15, 2014 19:21:48 GMT
For me I'd like to see Muni then Geoff
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Post by boskampsflaps on Oct 15, 2014 19:43:13 GMT
Is he a defencive midfielder? Nope don't think he is but compared to rolling out Palacios and sidwell I'd have him in every time Fair enough, personally I'd rather not take the risk on someone thats a long way off being a Prem standard player.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Oct 15, 2014 19:44:13 GMT
Play Wilson there and huth centre back. Wilson played midfield under hughes prior to huths injury. Wilson's an awful midfielder, I think even Wilson himself has given up on that pipe dream
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Post by davejohnno1 on Oct 15, 2014 20:00:12 GMT
In a home game against Swansea mobility is the key.
There would be no place for Adam in my midfield on Sunday and I would opt for Muniesa if Whelan is out.
Muniesa, N'zonzi, Ireland for me with Sidwell and Adam on the bench.
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Post by Olgrligm on Oct 15, 2014 20:11:53 GMT
1) The thought of a Stoke team without Whelan at present is frightening. He's our best midfielder by miles and holds the team together.
2) The amateur dramatics over Sidwell based on one acceptable but unremarkable performance and a foul that was given against him when he won the ball are pathetic. Give him a run of games to see what he can do.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Oct 15, 2014 20:15:35 GMT
In a home game against Swansea mobility is the key. There would be no place for Adam in my midfield on Sunday and I would opt for Muniesa if Whelan is out. Muniesa, N'zonzi, Ireland for me with Sidwell and Adam on the bench. After scoring 1 goal in 3 home games I'd have Adam as a shoe in dave. I certainly don't think you could drop him for offensive reasons, defensive reasons maybe. Without him against Sunderland it would have been a borderline embarrassing performance offensively as well as the actual embarrassing performance defensively.
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Post by march4 on Oct 15, 2014 20:22:31 GMT
In a home game against Swansea mobility is the key. There would be no place for Adam in my midfield on Sunday and I would opt for Muniesa if Whelan is out. Muniesa, N'zonzi, Ireland for me with Sidwell and Adam on the bench. After scoring 1 goal in 3 home games I'd have Adam as a shoe in dave. I certainly don't think you could drop him for offensive reasons, defensive reasons maybe. Without him against Sunderland it would have been a borderline embarrassing performance offensively as well as the actual embarrassing performance defensively. I think Adam will play (if fit). If he and N'Zonzi are 2 of our midfield 3, I wonder who the 3rd could be. Would LMH bring Ireland back (if fit) and go for a really attacking outlook?
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Post by robstokie on Oct 15, 2014 20:37:01 GMT
Lets just hope this isn't too serious, we need this like a hole in the head atm. Whelan has arguably been one of our better performers this season, offering excellent protection to our slightly shaky back 4 and, with our attacking threat blunted by a series of injuries, the last thing we need is our most dependable holding player out of action for an extended period.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Oct 15, 2014 21:07:53 GMT
After scoring 1 goal in 3 home games I'd have Adam as a shoe in dave. I certainly don't think you could drop him for offensive reasons, defensive reasons maybe. Without him against Sunderland it would have been a borderline embarrassing performance offensively as well as the actual embarrassing performance defensively. I think Adam will play (if fit). If he and N'Zonzi are 2 of our midfield 3, I wonder who the 3rd could be. Would LMH bring Ireland back (if fit) and go for a really attacking outlook? I hope not, we'd get ripped apart.
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Post by davejohnno1 on Oct 15, 2014 21:21:11 GMT
In a home game against Swansea mobility is the key. There would be no place for Adam in my midfield on Sunday and I would opt for Muniesa if Whelan is out. Muniesa, N'zonzi, Ireland for me with Sidwell and Adam on the bench. After scoring 1 goal in 3 home games I'd have Adam as a shoe in dave. I certainly don't think you could drop him for offensive reasons, defensive reasons maybe. Without him against Sunderland it would have been a borderline embarrassing performance offensively as well as the actual embarrassing performance defensively. Time will tell. If Whelan is out I reckon Hughes will go for Sidwell and Adam will play as well. If he does that I predict a defeat especially if Wilson and Oussama "blind alley" Assaidi join them in the starting 11. I have no real issue with Adam starting in all honesty and his goal threat always puts him in the reckoning. I'm not confident ahead of Sunday in all honesty regardless of who we play in midfield.
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Post by Paul Spencer on Oct 15, 2014 21:53:39 GMT
I know people don't like it but I wouldn't be surprised if Hughes puts Wilson in there.
It gives him the excuse to finally move Wilson out of defence and bring Rob back and then ultimately drop Wilson completely.
Personally I'd like to see Muniesa in though.
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Post by jezzascfc on Oct 15, 2014 21:56:00 GMT
I think Hughes will go with Sidwell, an experienced campaigner, who will do an okay job. I do worry more about our wings, if MBD and Vic are not available and Arnie and Ossie do not shine.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Oct 15, 2014 21:56:39 GMT
I know people don't like it but I wouldn't be surprised if Hughes puts Wilson in there. It gives him the excuse to finally move Wilson out of defence and bring Rob back and then ultimately drop Wilson completely. Personally I'd like to see Muniesa in though. Do you think he's looking for an excuse, if he needs one he has had plenty going off how people see his performances on here.
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Post by Paul Spencer on Oct 15, 2014 22:03:36 GMT
I know people don't like it but I wouldn't be surprised if Hughes puts Wilson in there. It gives him the excuse to finally move Wilson out of defence and bring Rob back and then ultimately drop Wilson completely. Personally I'd like to see Muniesa in though. Do you think he's looking for an excuse, if he needs one he has had plenty going off how people see his performances on here. Yeah possibly - I'm suggesting it might be a convenient opportunity for him to take advantage of a situation which allows him to be a little diplomatic. At the end of the day plenty of people have been criticising his performances but he's still been starting.
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Post by thedeadlyshart on Oct 15, 2014 22:15:40 GMT
I think it will be nzonzi with Adam in steven's normal role. Sidwell has been shit, and I'd rather see Cameron or palacios playing for us. The only midfield place I think muniesa would possibly play is on the left. crikey I don't know if you are right or wrong about Sidwell but if we really should give up on him after 1 start in 2 months when he signed as a high wage good-to-go player then this transfer really can be put down as a massive cock up! im unimpressed with him, but that doesn't mean the window as a whole was a massive cock up. From what I've seen he looks like a player that belongs on a team in the championship. Some signings don't work out, he's only played in a few games, but he's already gotten more minutes than the likes of other cm's we've signed and moved on like ness, arismendi, and edu. I hear the he's a "proven prem player" comments, but the window between veteran and has been is really short in football. Doesn't mean my evaluation of him is right, I was wrong about odemwingie for example, but he came in and contributed from the get go. Sidwell hasn't looked like an improvement on palacios, and I'd rather not see either trying to control the middle of the pitch. Adam (with zonz at cdm) or Cameron for me.
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Post by ayem on Oct 15, 2014 22:16:49 GMT
I'm glad we have options really. Hughes and co. did a great job in off-season, and our ability to choose from players with premier experience is great. Sidwell is no Whelan, and Cameron may not be fit. But either allow us to keep playing at a high level.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Oct 15, 2014 22:18:27 GMT
Do you think he's looking for an excuse, if he needs one he has had plenty going off how people see his performances on here. Yeah possibly - I'm suggesting it might be a convenient opportunity for him to take advantage of a situation which allows him to be a little diplomatic. At the end of the day plenty of people have been criticising his performances but he's still been starting. Thats what I'm getting at tbh, I get the feeling Hughes doesn't see it as others do on here, some of the "mistakes" aren't as b&w as some make them out to be.
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Post by Paul Spencer on Oct 15, 2014 22:28:42 GMT
Yeah possibly - I'm suggesting it might be a convenient opportunity for him to take advantage of a situation which allows him to be a little diplomatic. At the end of the day plenty of people have been criticising his performances but he's still been starting. Thats what I'm getting at tbh, I get the feeling Hughes doesn't see it as others do on here, some of the "mistakes" aren't as b&w as some make them out to be. Ah got yer - I guess we'll see on Sunday. Personally I'd like to see Rob come back in.
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Post by Bombus on Oct 16, 2014 0:06:54 GMT
He'll go with Sidwell. He's the only one you could trust to be disciplined enough to hold that roll. Agreed. I'm confident that he'll do just fine!!
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Post by stokemanusa on Oct 16, 2014 4:59:58 GMT
Nzonzi at cdm infront of back four with adam to start and geoff to finish. We might actually see a goal from midfield this season now! Fingers crossed.
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Post by mrpickles on Oct 16, 2014 6:01:14 GMT
Nzonzi at cdm infront of back four with adam to start and geoff to finish. We might actually see a goal from midfield this season now! Fingers crossed. Spot on..... ..... Sigurdsson will have a fucking field day
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Post by cheekymatt71 on Oct 16, 2014 11:16:38 GMT
yeah Im coming round to the idea of Nzonzi being the holding midfielder. His box-to-box exploits are great until he gets to the final third of the pitch and tries to shoot.
If he focuses on breaking up the play and shielding the back 4, he can still get lots of possession and start our attacks off.
Hes never going to be the Yaya Toure type player that we all hoped for.
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Post by Jamo on the wing on Oct 16, 2014 11:22:14 GMT
I know people don't like it but I wouldn't be surprised if Hughes puts Wilson in there. It gives him the excuse to finally move Wilson out of defence and bring Rob back and then ultimately drop Wilson completely. Personally I'd like to see Muniesa in though. I'm hoping a very poor 3-1 defeat will give him sufficient reason to shake it up a bit, Paul.
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Post by Pugsley on Oct 16, 2014 11:28:55 GMT
I know people don't like it but I wouldn't be surprised if Hughes puts Wilson in there. It gives him the excuse to finally move Wilson out of defence and bring Rob back and then ultimately drop Wilson completely. Personally I'd like to see Muniesa in though.
What if he has a barn storming game?
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Post by superstokiejon on Oct 16, 2014 11:33:55 GMT
If it is Wilson, he'll have to be better than his previous offerings from the middle of the park.
Who would you go for Pugsley?
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Post by Pugsley on Oct 16, 2014 11:40:49 GMT
If it is Wilson, he'll have to be better than his previous offerings from the middle of the park. Who would you go for Pugsley?
Fuck knows, there is case for and against 4 players. I think he will go with Sidwell.
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Post by superstokiejon on Oct 16, 2014 11:43:04 GMT
I do too - I think it's probably the one that'll create the least disruption.
I really hope Huth will be back and gets back to his best straight away.
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Post by jeycov on Oct 16, 2014 12:34:19 GMT
Do we have an official update on how serious the injury is?
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