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Post by foxysgloves on Oct 7, 2014 17:08:54 GMT
Travelling at that speed I doubt even the Lord could have got away so my guess is yes. I'm sure I read somewhere that he is a serial god botherer. Have to say he seems a mass of contradictions Virtually all my memories of him, bar the promotion game, are all non footy!! Didn't him and his wife do some travel book or website? That worked out well obviously.
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Post by hoopty on Oct 7, 2014 18:03:21 GMT
Travelling at that speed I doubt even the Lord could have got away so my guess is yes. I'm sure I read somewhere that he is a serial god botherer. Have to say he seems a mass of contradictions Seems the judicial system thinks he's more into bothering his ex-wife than God.
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Post by potterglen on Oct 7, 2014 19:29:44 GMT
I actually feel sorry for the guy. Met him once, top bloke. Sounds like he's been fucked over by his ex-wife, money grabbing etc. Of course hes a top bloke, he only stalkes his estrange wife (who is successful in her own right), drives at 140mph down a 'A' road while pissing away say.... £200k a year for 20ish years and now claiming benefits from the tax payer. Yeah, top bloke.
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Post by block27row27 on Oct 7, 2014 19:45:00 GMT
I actually feel sorry for the guy. Met him once, top bloke. Sounds like he's been fucked over by his ex-wife, money grabbing etc. Of course hes a top bloke, he only stalkes his estrange wife (who is successful in her own right), drives at 140mph down a 'A' road while pissing away say.... £200k a year for 20ish years and now claiming benefits from the tax payer. Yeah, top bloke. She may very well be successful in her own right, however I'm almost certain that she would have rinsed him clean for all he is worth. Moving on to my next point, he was travelling at such a speed so he wasn't late picking up his daughters, who his wife had moved miles from their father, which is never good for a child. Don't get me wrong, it seems like he's been a twat, but I have extreme sympathy for him due to the emotional trauma he's gone through - it makes you do strange things.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 7, 2014 20:26:20 GMT
Of course hes a top bloke, he only stalkes his estrange wife (who is successful in her own right), drives at 140mph down a 'A' road while pissing away say.... £200k a year for 20ish years and now claiming benefits from the tax payer. Yeah, top bloke. She may very well be successful in her own right, however I'm almost certain that she would have rinsed him clean for all he is worth. Moving on to my next point, he was travelling at such a speed so he wasn't late picking up his daughters, who his wife had moved miles from their father, which is never good for a child. Don't get me wrong, it seems like he's been a twat, but I have extreme sympathy for him due to the emotional trauma he's gone through - it makes you do strange things. Maybe he should have left the house earlier like everybody else instead of going a crazy speed and putting everyone else in danger who was on the same stretch of road. What if he had smashed into one of you're family members, not sure you would be so sympathetic.
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Post by hoopty on Oct 7, 2014 22:20:59 GMT
She may very well be successful in her own right, however I'm almost certain that she would have rinsed him clean for all he is worth. Moving on to my next point, he was travelling at such a speed so he wasn't late picking up his daughters, who his wife had moved miles from their father, which is never good for a child. Don't get me wrong, it seems like he's been a twat, but I have extreme sympathy for him due to the emotional trauma he's gone through - it makes you do strange things. Maybe he should have left the house earlier like everybody else instead of going a crazy speed and putting everyone else in danger who was on the same stretch of road. What if he had smashed into one of you're family members, not sure you would be so sympathetic. Loving your own kids is one thing. Recklessly endangering the lives of others is altogether another. Whether he's been hosed by a wife or hangers on is not the point even if it were true. He's had earnings and a lifestyle most of us can only dream of and he's now relying on state benefits. The mess he's in is his responsibility and his alone.
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Post by block27row27 on Oct 8, 2014 8:18:13 GMT
Maybe he should have left the house earlier like everybody else instead of going a crazy speed and putting everyone else in danger who was on the same stretch of road. What if he had smashed into one of you're family members, not sure you would be so sympathetic. Loving your own kids is one thing. Recklessly endangering the lives of others is altogether another. Whether he's been hosed by a wife or hangers on is not the point even if it were true. He's had earnings and a lifestyle most of us can only dream of and he's now relying on state benefits. The mess he's in is his responsibility and his alone. You can say that about everyone on the dole
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2014 8:49:39 GMT
Loving your own kids is one thing. Recklessly endangering the lives of others is altogether another. Whether he's been hosed by a wife or hangers on is not the point even if it were true. He's had earnings and a lifestyle most of us can only dream of and he's now relying on state benefits. The mess he's in is his responsibility and his alone. You can say that about everyone on the dole no you can't!!! what a ridiculous statement to make! so someone who's worked for 10-12 hours a day up to 6 days a week for 20 years to put food in their kids mouths and is laid off from a factory closing down is now exactly the same as a Pro footballer earning tens of thousands for about 15 hours a week work who has been given every opportunity to live a long and happy life (financially) with no worries about how to put the food on the table or pay the mortgage and has completely screwed it up himself??? let's not pretend that he's not still driving around in a car worth about £50k while claiming money off you and me..let's just ignore that and say he's the same as everyone else on the dole eh? staggering! yeah we're all the same aren't we??!!
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Post by stokeramblers on Oct 8, 2014 8:57:11 GMT
Loving your own kids is one thing. Recklessly endangering the lives of others is altogether another. Whether he's been hosed by a wife or hangers on is not the point even if it were true. He's had earnings and a lifestyle most of us can only dream of and he's now relying on state benefits. The mess he's in is his responsibility and his alone. You can say that about everyone on the dole That's nonsense mate. Utter nonsense.
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Post by block27row27 on Oct 8, 2014 8:57:55 GMT
You can say that about everyone on the dole no you can't!!! what a ridiculous statement to make! so someone who's worked for 10-12 hours a day up to 6 days a week for 20 years to put food in their kids mouths and is laid off from a factory closing down is now exactly the same as a Pro footballer earning tens of thousands for about 15 hours a week work who has been given every opportunity to live a long and happy life (financially) with no worries about how to put the food on the table or pay the mortgage and has completely screwed it up himself??? let's not pretend that he's not still driving around in a car worth about £50k while claiming money off you and me..let's just ignore that and say he's the same as everyone else on the dole eh? staggering! yeah we're all the same aren't we??!! I think you misunderstood my comment, obviously his situation is a lot different to the everyday person. The point I was making is that he had said that he's got nobody to blame but himself. Now what I was trying to say that nobody other than themselves are to blame when living off state benefits. Somewhere down the line, they've screwed up in some way - knowingly or unknowingly - either by not getting the necessary qualifications to help find another job or simply by not having contingency plans in place. Lack of forward thinking in a lot of ways. However, I do have sympathy with people who can't find a job, living off net to nothing is a pain.
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Post by stokeramblers on Oct 8, 2014 9:10:46 GMT
no you can't!!! what a ridiculous statement to make! so someone who's worked for 10-12 hours a day up to 6 days a week for 20 years to put food in their kids mouths and is laid off from a factory closing down is now exactly the same as a Pro footballer earning tens of thousands for about 15 hours a week work who has been given every opportunity to live a long and happy life (financially) with no worries about how to put the food on the table or pay the mortgage and has completely screwed it up himself??? let's not pretend that he's not still driving around in a car worth about £50k while claiming money off you and me..let's just ignore that and say he's the same as everyone else on the dole eh? staggering! yeah we're all the same aren't we??!! Now what I was trying to say that nobody other than themselves are to blame when living off state benefits. Somewhere down the line, they've screwed up in some way - knowingly or unknowingly - either by not getting the necessary qualifications to help find another job or simply by not having contingency plans in place. Lack of forward thinking in a lot of ways. I still think that's quite offensive to quite a few fellow Stokies who've lost their jobs. You can have a bucket full of qualifications but if they're in your line of work and the place where you and 1000s of other people work suddenly closes down... What then.. you and shitloads of other people all highly qualified but with nowhere to use those qualifications. Where do they all find work then...? 1000s of people scrabbling over a few jobs at Bet365 or a handful of warehouse jobs..
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Post by block27row27 on Oct 8, 2014 9:26:24 GMT
Now what I was trying to say that nobody other than themselves are to blame when living off state benefits. Somewhere down the line, they've screwed up in some way - knowingly or unknowingly - either by not getting the necessary qualifications to help find another job or simply by not having contingency plans in place. Lack of forward thinking in a lot of ways. I still think that's quite offensive to quite a few fellow Stokies who've lost their jobs. You can have a bucket full of qualifications but if they're in your line of work and the place where you and 1000s of other people work suddenly closes down... What then.. you and shitloads of other people all highly qualified but with nowhere to use those qualifications. Where do they all find work then...? 1000s of people scrabbling over a few jobs at Bet365 or a handful of warehouse jobs.. I don't mean to be offensive in any way, I wish anybody all the luck in the world in finding a job. My dad is in a similar position, made redundant last year and hasn't managed to find a job yet. Most of the time, pipped to it by a younger candidate. It's just my opinion, sorry if I caused any grief.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2014 10:29:35 GMT
no you can't!!! what a ridiculous statement to make! so someone who's worked for 10-12 hours a day up to 6 days a week for 20 years to put food in their kids mouths and is laid off from a factory closing down is now exactly the same as a Pro footballer earning tens of thousands for about 15 hours a week work who has been given every opportunity to live a long and happy life (financially) with no worries about how to put the food on the table or pay the mortgage and has completely screwed it up himself??? let's not pretend that he's not still driving around in a car worth about £50k while claiming money off you and me..let's just ignore that and say he's the same as everyone else on the dole eh? staggering! yeah we're all the same aren't we??!! I think you misunderstood my comment, obviously his situation is a lot different to the everyday person. The point I was making is that he had said that he's got nobody to blame but himself. Now what I was trying to say that nobody other than themselves are to blame when living off state benefits. Somewhere down the line, they've screwed up in some way - knowingly or unknowingly - either by not getting the necessary qualifications to help find another job or simply by not having contingency plans in place. Lack of forward thinking in a lot of ways. However, I do have sympathy with people who can't find a job, living off net to nothing is a pain. i have GCSEs, A-levels and a degree....i was assistant manager of a department in the insurance industry for 12 years. we got bought out, the new company relocated to Yorkshire and offered no relocation package for employees and if they couldn't relocate they were laid off. i spent hours and hours every single day looking for jobs (sent my CV to every single factory in the telford and stafford areas, rang every supermarket even for shelf stacking roles, rang every pub for part time work) and was told i was too experienced/over qualified for the jobs they were offering or the roles weren't available (because the employers will pay less for students doing part time work and for school leavers wanting a job). i ended up finally finding a job temping on minimum wage with a company but it took me over 3 months to find that and i did that for over a year until i finally landed the role i'm now in. if you genuinely think that people out there on the dole are in that situation because it's their own fault somewhere down the line then you're deluded about the state of the economy and consequently the state of employment for thousands and thousands of people out there. you can be qualified to the hilt, extremely experienced in your role and it counts for nothing nowadays in the employment market as most employers (due to the economy) aren't looking for skilled or experienced workers, they're simply looking for whoever is the cheapest to employ because they have no other choice as most industries have suffered massively over the last few years in financial terms. you may want to start living in the real world that the rest of us have to sometime!
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Post by redstriper on Oct 8, 2014 10:47:53 GMT
He's still a young fit bloke with a profile and connections so I doubt he would have any trouble finding a job.
Maybe he's put his profession down as "goalkeeper" and told them he wont get out of bed for less than 2000 a week. Any sympathy I have for his plight is severely tempered by the fact that he thinks its ok to sponge off the rest of us despite having a 50k car and a 50k lawyer.
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Post by RAF on Oct 8, 2014 14:58:44 GMT
I think you misunderstood my comment, obviously his situation is a lot different to the everyday person. The point I was making is that he had said that he's got nobody to blame but himself. Now what I was trying to say that nobody other than themselves are to blame when living off state benefits. Somewhere down the line, they've screwed up in some way - knowingly or unknowingly - either by not getting the necessary qualifications to help find another job or simply by not having contingency plans in place. Lack of forward thinking in a lot of ways. However, I do have sympathy with people who can't find a job, living off net to nothing is a pain. i have GCSEs, A-levels and a degree....i was assistant manager of a department in the insurance industry for 12 years. we got bought out, the new company relocated to Yorkshire and offered no relocation package for employees and if they couldn't relocate they were laid off. i spent hours and hours every single day looking for jobs (sent my CV to every single factory in the telford and stafford areas, rang every supermarket even for shelf stacking roles, rang every pub for part time work) and was told i was too experienced/over qualified for the jobs they were offering or the roles weren't available (because the employers will pay less for students doing part time work and for school leavers wanting a job). i ended up finally finding a job temping on minimum wage with a company but it took me over 3 months to find that and i did that for over a year until i finally landed the role i'm now in. if you genuinely think that people out there on the dole are in that situation because it's their own fault somewhere down the line then you're deluded about the state of the economy and consequently the state of employment for thousands and thousands of people out there. you can be qualified to the hilt, extremely experienced in your role and it counts for nothing nowadays in the employment market as most employers (due to the economy) aren't looking for skilled or experienced workers, they're simply looking for whoever is the cheapest to employ because they have no other choice as most industries have suffered massively over the last few years in financial terms. you may want to start living in the real world that the rest of us have to sometime! I'll talk about 'The Real World' if you like Millsy. There are people out there on the dole because it's their own doing and they actually like it. FACT (source dole scroungers ITV) Qualifications mean shit if you don't get on with the people that matter. Headhunters don't exist for nothing. Maybe you just didn't pull up any trees? An insurance day Danny Collins if you will? H
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2014 15:23:56 GMT
i have GCSEs, A-levels and a degree....i was assistant manager of a department in the insurance industry for 12 years. we got bought out, the new company relocated to Yorkshire and offered no relocation package for employees and if they couldn't relocate they were laid off. i spent hours and hours every single day looking for jobs (sent my CV to every single factory in the telford and stafford areas, rang every supermarket even for shelf stacking roles, rang every pub for part time work) and was told i was too experienced/over qualified for the jobs they were offering or the roles weren't available (because the employers will pay less for students doing part time work and for school leavers wanting a job). i ended up finally finding a job temping on minimum wage with a company but it took me over 3 months to find that and i did that for over a year until i finally landed the role i'm now in. if you genuinely think that people out there on the dole are in that situation because it's their own fault somewhere down the line then you're deluded about the state of the economy and consequently the state of employment for thousands and thousands of people out there. you can be qualified to the hilt, extremely experienced in your role and it counts for nothing nowadays in the employment market as most employers (due to the economy) aren't looking for skilled or experienced workers, they're simply looking for whoever is the cheapest to employ because they have no other choice as most industries have suffered massively over the last few years in financial terms. you may want to start living in the real world that the rest of us have to sometime! I'll talk about 'The Real World' if you like Millsy. There are people out there on the dole because it's their own doing and they actually like it. FACT (source dole scroungers ITV) Qualifications mean shit if you don't get on with the people that matter. Headhunters don't exist for nothing. Maybe you just didn't pull up any trees? An insurance day Danny Collins if you will? H not denying for a second that there are scroungers out there RAF, of course there are but to simply say that everyone on the dole only has themselves to blame is ludicrous and insulting! and, with regards to my own situation, insurance just wasn't happening at all at the time. it was just before the whole "Global recession" kicked off and when it did the insurance industry took a proper hammering with shit loads of companies going under....people can't afford to buy houses/cars etc. so consequently there are less insurable risks for companies to take on, everyone in the industry felt it big time (plus all their applications only had tiny boxes to write things in so how the fuck am i supposed to get my standard 16 paragraphs into them??!! bastards!) besides, we all know that "Up your own arse" has never been an accepted definition of "The real world" anyway (JOKE!!!)
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Post by RAF on Oct 8, 2014 15:32:51 GMT
I'll talk about 'The Real World' if you like Millsy. There are people out there on the dole because it's their own doing and they actually like it. FACT (source dole scroungers ITV) Qualifications mean shit if you don't get on with the people that matter. Headhunters don't exist for nothing. Maybe you just didn't pull up any trees? An insurance day Danny Collins if you will? H not denying for a second that there are scroungers out there RAF, of course there are but to simply say that everyone on the dole only has themselves to blame is ludicrous and insulting! and, with regards to my own situation, insurance just wasn't happening at all at the time. it was just before the whole "Global recession" kicked off and when it did the insurance industry took a proper hammering with shit loads of companies going under....people can't afford to buy houses/cars etc. so consequently there are less insurable risks for companies to take on, everyone in the industry felt it big time (plus all their applications only had tiny boxes to write things in so how the fuck am i supposed to get my standard 16 paragraphs into them??!! bastards!) besides, we all know that "Up your own arse" has never been an accepted definition of "The real world" anyway (JOKE!!!) ;) Millsy, as you are ace at quoting, I shall fire this back at you "if you genuinely think that people out there on the dole are in that situation because it's their own fault somewhere down the line then you're deluded about the state of the economy and consequently the state of employment for thousands and thousands of people out there" Nowhere there do you refer to majorities or minorities, I know it's easy to pick holes , but you can see how you left yourself open? Personally , and I know this is of no solace to you but for all the dead money I've spunked on insurance that I have never claimed, you could have a new lambo on the drive in your 15 bedroomed pad, had you had the foresight like? ;) H
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2014 15:44:42 GMT
not denying for a second that there are scroungers out there RAF, of course there are but to simply say that everyone on the dole only has themselves to blame is ludicrous and insulting! and, with regards to my own situation, insurance just wasn't happening at all at the time. it was just before the whole "Global recession" kicked off and when it did the insurance industry took a proper hammering with shit loads of companies going under....people can't afford to buy houses/cars etc. so consequently there are less insurable risks for companies to take on, everyone in the industry felt it big time (plus all their applications only had tiny boxes to write things in so how the fuck am i supposed to get my standard 16 paragraphs into them??!! bastards!) besides, we all know that "Up your own arse" has never been an accepted definition of "The real world" anyway (JOKE!!!) Millsy, as you are ace at quoting, I shall fire this back at you "if you genuinely think that people out there on the dole are in that situation because it's their own fault somewhere down the line then you're deluded about the state of the economy and consequently the state of employment for thousands and thousands of people out there" Nowhere there do you refer to majorities or minorities, I know it's easy to pick holes , but you can see how you left yourself open? Personally , and I know this is of no solace to you but for all the dead money I've spunked on insurance that I have never claimed, you could have a new lambo on the drive in your 15 bedroomed pad, had you had the foresight like? H no i don't see where i've left myself open at all.....i was responding to a post where he said "You could the same about everyone on the dole". even if you want to pick holes in my post (bloody pedant...as if i'd do that ) and say i was implying that there are no scroungers or layabouts so i was therefore wrong, the post that block27 made would STILL be insulting to those who weren't scroungers that i necessarily included in my sweeping statement....which was my initial point; how insulting it is to presume that if you're on the dole then you have "nobody other than themselves" to blame as he later said.
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Post by block27row27 on Oct 8, 2014 15:55:26 GMT
Millsy, as you are ace at quoting, I shall fire this back at you "if you genuinely think that people out there on the dole are in that situation because it's their own fault somewhere down the line then you're deluded about the state of the economy and consequently the state of employment for thousands and thousands of people out there" Nowhere there do you refer to majorities or minorities, I know it's easy to pick holes , but you can see how you left yourself open? Personally , and I know this is of no solace to you but for all the dead money I've spunked on insurance that I have never claimed, you could have a new lambo on the drive in your 15 bedroomed pad, had you had the foresight like? H no i don't see where i've left myself open at all.....i was responding to a post where he said "You could the same about everyone on the dole". even if you want to pick holes in my post (bloody pedant...as if i'd do that ) and say i was implying that there are no scroungers or layabouts so i was therefore wrong, the post that block27 made would STILL be insulting to those who weren't scroungers that i necessarily included in my sweeping statement....which was my initial point; how insulting it is to presume that if you're on the dole then you have "nobody other than themselves" to blame as he later said. I stand by that too, and the point I was making was on the dole for a prolonged amount of time (over a year imo)
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2014 16:00:38 GMT
no i don't see where i've left myself open at all.....i was responding to a post where he said "You could the same about everyone on the dole". even if you want to pick holes in my post (bloody pedant...as if i'd do that ) and say i was implying that there are no scroungers or layabouts so i was therefore wrong, the post that block27 made would STILL be insulting to those who weren't scroungers that i necessarily included in my sweeping statement....which was my initial point; how insulting it is to presume that if you're on the dole then you have "nobody other than themselves" to blame as he later said. I stand by that too, and the point I was making was on the dole for a prolonged amount of time (over a year imo) 1) over a year is a very, very different thing to saying "everyone on the dole" 2) how can you possibly comment when you have no idea whatsoever of people's personal circumstances? 3) i genuinely hope for your sake that you don't get laid off or you may be in for a very big surprise if you think getting jobs is that easy out there nowadays...and i'm not just talking about getting a job you think you're entitled to or one that matches your personal wage demands etc. i'm talking about ANY job at all! strangely enough, employers just won't take you on if you're over qualified or over experienced for the roles they advertise because they need to pay you more and they're well aware you'll just up and leave of something more on your level comes along. consequently, many qualified and experience people can't even get manual labour jobs or shelf-stacking jobs etc. it's just the kind of ignorant, snobbish,detached from reality generalisation i'd only ever expect to hear from a Daily Mail reader
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Post by RAF on Oct 8, 2014 16:02:00 GMT
Millsy, as you are ace at quoting, I shall fire this back at you "if you genuinely think that people out there on the dole are in that situation because it's their own fault somewhere down the line then you're deluded about the state of the economy and consequently the state of employment for thousands and thousands of people out there" Nowhere there do you refer to majorities or minorities, I know it's easy to pick holes , but you can see how you left yourself open? Personally , and I know this is of no solace to you but for all the dead money I've spunked on insurance that I have never claimed, you could have a new lambo on the drive in your 15 bedroomed pad, had you had the foresight like? ;) H no i don't see where i've left myself open at all.....i was responding to a post where he said "You could the same about everyone on the dole". even if you want to pick holes in my post (bloody pedant...as if i'd do that ;) ) and say i was implying that there are no scroungers or layabouts so i was therefore wrong, the post that block27 made would STILL be insulting to those who weren't scroungers that i necessarily included in my sweeping statement....which was my initial point; how insulting it is to presume that if you're on the dole then you have "nobody other than themselves" to blame as he later said. That may or not be true, but then you are trusting that I care about being insulting, given my track record on here I'm thinking it's a none starter! H:)
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2014 16:04:41 GMT
no i don't see where i've left myself open at all.....i was responding to a post where he said "You could the same about everyone on the dole". even if you want to pick holes in my post (bloody pedant...as if i'd do that ) and say i was implying that there are no scroungers or layabouts so i was therefore wrong, the post that block27 made would STILL be insulting to those who weren't scroungers that i necessarily included in my sweeping statement....which was my initial point; how insulting it is to presume that if you're on the dole then you have "nobody other than themselves" to blame as he later said. That may or not be true, but then you are trusting that I care about being insulting, given my track record on here I'm thinking it's a none starter! H:) we wouldn't want you any other way RAF!
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Post by RAF on Oct 8, 2014 16:10:31 GMT
That may or not be true, but then you are trusting that I care about being insulting, given my track record on here I'm thinking it's a none starter! H:) :D we wouldn't want you any other way RAF! Exactly now fuck off you daft cunter! I've got a Tazi to catch! H :)
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Post by snaggle on Oct 21, 2014 20:53:44 GMT
I am sure he would still be married if he could have kept his flies zipped up!
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Post by The battheader chronicles on Oct 21, 2014 21:38:27 GMT
Twat but will still have paid a damn sight more in taxes than he'll ever claim
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Post by Deleted on Oct 21, 2014 22:23:34 GMT
I am sure he would still be married if he could have kept his flies zipped up! Onepost signed up today are you his misses?
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Post by metalhead on Oct 22, 2014 0:08:58 GMT
I am sure he would still be married if he could have kept his flies zipped up! Mrs/Ms Former Nash?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 22, 2014 6:05:42 GMT
Twat but will still have paid a damn sight more in taxes than he'll ever claim Fair point, I dread to think how much he's had to pay in tax.
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Post by snaggle on Oct 22, 2014 16:48:25 GMT
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Post by Clayton Wood on Jul 27, 2015 18:38:55 GMT
cleared of stalking ex-wifeFormer Manchester City goalkeeper Carlo Nash has been cleared of stalking his ex-wife.
The 41-year-old had been accused of a single count of stalking between January 2013 and August 2014.
Mr Nash, who also played for Stoke City and Preston North End, was found not guilty at Chester Crown Court after the prosecution offered no evidence.
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