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Post by sheikhmomo on Sept 20, 2014 14:46:11 GMT
And say it as it is. Very poor today.
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Post by Sergeant Muttley on Sept 20, 2014 14:49:48 GMT
And say it as it is. Very poor today. Agreed momo it was his worst game for us for a very long time and he was very very lucky not to concede a penalty but he has plenty in the bank . |
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Post by mrpickles on Sept 20, 2014 15:23:30 GMT
And say it as it is. Very poor today. He certainly was mate. Had a right stinker today |
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Post by liathroid on Sept 20, 2014 15:28:44 GMT
done his tackling well ,but at corners fuck me ,hes got to get a grip of himself  |
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Post by stokie25 on Sept 20, 2014 15:34:09 GMT
Very lucky boy today not to have a booking for his incessant holding of Caulker, although the footage on TV seemed to focus on it more than any other player (and it was happening to Crouch a fair bit) it is still an unnecessary booking waiting to happen. Ryan is a good enough defender not to have to maul players away from the ball.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2014 15:43:13 GMT
In my opinion Shawcross is the worst offender for grappling in the box and it's something that Hughes needs to have a word with him about.
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Post by burberrybassist on Sept 20, 2014 15:48:09 GMT
I think there needs to be serious changes in the way we coach our players defensively. We have been making very poor decisions since before the season started in that area of the pitch and there doesn't look to be half the confidence, communication or cohesion that we know our players are capable of.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2014 15:50:17 GMT
No no no, fucking Wilson again!
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Post by boskampsflaps on Sept 20, 2014 15:53:18 GMT
In my opinion Shawcross is the worst offender for grappling in the box and it's something that Hughes needs to have a word with him about. I think he needs to keep doing it. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2014 15:57:58 GMT
No no no, fucking Wilson again! Should have seen the danger. Crouch was totally unmarked. |
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Post by retired1 on Sept 20, 2014 16:26:15 GMT
done his tackling well ,but at corners fuck me ,hes got to get a grip of himself It's difficult to get a grip of yourself when you spend all your time gripping the opposition. |
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Post by kerouac on Sept 20, 2014 16:29:38 GMT
If he'd have been concentrating on his man instead of trying to fucking maul him he might have jumped better and not left him clear.....he was poor today and his his distribution was wank.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2014 16:31:03 GMT
Today proved that he is not the man for England! They will probably highlight the holding on M.O.D.
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Post by stokie25 on Sept 20, 2014 16:34:10 GMT
Today proved that he is not the man for England! They will probably highlight the holding on M.O.D. As the game ended the commentators were suggesting that the holding 'debate' needed addressing in terms of penalising players. You just know they meant Ryan and not every other defender who does it week in and week out. Doesn't negate the fact that Ryan, as Captain, shouldn't exercise more control though! |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2014 16:36:14 GMT
In my opinion Shawcross is the worst offender for grappling in the box and it's something that Hughes needs to have a word with him about. I think he needs to keep doing it. Yeah good idea Flaps. Then perhaps we can give away more soft as fuck goals like their first today. |
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Post by borat on Sept 20, 2014 16:38:45 GMT
Apart from his holding (which he always does anyway) and his rash challenge, what did he do today that was so wank?
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Post by boskampsflaps on Sept 20, 2014 16:42:15 GMT
I think he needs to keep doing it. Yeah good idea Flaps. Then perhaps we can give away more soft as fuck goals like their first today. We'd be giving more away if he didn't, he wasn't strong enough for the first goal if he was they wouldn't have scored, how many penos has he given away doing it, its worth the risk. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2014 16:55:33 GMT
Someone needs to teach him how to defend properly once again
plainly, he seems to have forgotten
Hes our captain -our leader - our rock
BUT grappling with the opponent having not the least interest in the football or , where it is - belongs in Seria A - not the premier league
piss poor he should have to even think about doing it
and it'll cost us - sooner or later
as I said on another thread -they ALL want their arses kicking for one thing or another after today - this was Ryans
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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2014 16:56:49 GMT
Yeah good idea Flaps. Then perhaps we can give away more soft as fuck goals like their first today. We'd be giving more away if he didn't, he wasn't strong enough for the first goal if he was they wouldn't have scored, how many penos has he given away doing it, its worth the risk. I don't understand what you're saying. We concede shit loads from set pieces and have done for a while now. The reason why we conceded their first today was because Ryan was to pre-occupied with holding and grappling with Caulker than actually doing his job of staying goal side and beating him in the air. He isn't the only defender at it,but in my opinion it stops them from concentrating on what they should be doing and that showed today. |
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Post by boskampsflaps on Sept 20, 2014 17:02:18 GMT
We'd be giving more away if he didn't, he wasn't strong enough for the first goal if he was they wouldn't have scored, how many penos has he given away doing it, its worth the risk. I don't understand what you're saying. We concede shit loads from set pieces and have done for a while now. The reason why we conceded their first today was because Ryan was to pre-occupied with holding and grappling with Caulker than actually doing his job of staying goal side and beating him in the air. He isn't the only defender at it,but in my opinion it stops them from concentrating on what they should be doing and that showed today. If he'd had held him off properly he wouldn't have had the run on him, as you say he should have been goal side too. Conceding a lot of corners etc has got nothing to do with his holding, hes been doing that since he got here. |
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Post by Olgrligm on Sept 20, 2014 18:36:38 GMT
He made a mistake today and it cost us a goal.
Fortunately, his mistakes only come around once a season.
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Post by Kjones9 on Sept 20, 2014 18:51:14 GMT
Every footballer makes mistakes once in a while.
Who'd a thunk it.
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Post by dutchstokie on Sept 20, 2014 18:53:07 GMT
There are far worse culprits for holding attackers in the box in The Premiership than Shawcross
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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2014 18:58:00 GMT
I don't understand what you're saying. We concede shit loads from set pieces and have done for a while now. The reason why we conceded their first today was because Ryan was to pre-occupied with holding and grappling with Caulker than actually doing his job of staying goal side and beating him in the air. He isn't the only defender at it,but in my opinion it stops them from concentrating on what they should be doing and that showed today. If he'd had held him off properly he wouldn't have had the run on him, as you say he should have been goal side too. Conceding a lot of corners etc has got nothing to do with his holding, hes been doing that since he got here. There's holding you're opponent off and then there's blatant cheating by grabbing hold of him at every corner or free kick. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2014 18:58:23 GMT
There are far worse culprits for holding attackers in the box in The Premiership than Shawcross Name them. |
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Post by mrcoke on Sept 20, 2014 19:01:39 GMT
After today's performance I think Ryan is going to be a marked man. Opponents will be screaming at the ref and he is in danger of being sent off in future matches.
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Post by that's our Ric on Sept 20, 2014 19:06:57 GMT
There are far worse culprits for holding attackers in the box in The Premiership than Shawcross Disagree I think Shawcross possibly is the worst for it, and one reason why he has such a terrible reputation outside S-O-T ! Looked absolutely ridiculous on the BT coverage today, and a penalty waiting to happen Sort it out Ryan |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2014 19:07:14 GMT
After today's performance I think Ryan is going to be a marked man. Opponents will be screaming at the ref and he is in danger of being sent off in future matches. I do believe that it will be highlighted to a point that referees will be forced to take action. It goes on all over the premiership and eventually,like diving,refs will start taking action. Trouble is the only action the ref will be able to take is to award a penalty to the opposition. Shawcross does himself no favours at all,and it's not needed because he is good enough not to do it. |
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Post by march4 on Sept 20, 2014 19:09:30 GMT
Which player in the Prem gets held most at corners - answer Peter Crouch
How many penalties does Crouchy get??
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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2014 19:16:31 GMT
Which player in the Prem gets held most at corners - answer Peter Crouch How many penalties does Crouchy get?? Crouch doesn't get anywhere near the amount of fouls given for him that he should. I think refs just think he is unfoulable(is that even a word?)because he is so big and awkward? On a side note he was superb today. |
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