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Post by Staffsoatcake on Sept 19, 2014 12:15:40 GMT
Walters could miss out v QPR after picking up injury last week,Ireland fit again after recovering from Rib injury, so could feature tomorrow.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2014 12:26:55 GMT
Is Arnie fit?
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Post by 2004 on Sept 19, 2014 12:30:50 GMT
I wonder how big Ireland's beard is now.
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Post by gezzer on Sept 19, 2014 13:09:43 GMT
I wonder how big Ireland's beard is now. This will be him at the end of the season  |
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Post by pottersrule on Sept 19, 2014 13:57:25 GMT
I wonder how big Ireland's beard is now. This will be him at the end of the season Fuckin hell,now that's a beard. |
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Post by sportsman on Sept 19, 2014 14:57:52 GMT
Great. Hope ireland does play. Just need get him back to match fit and we have a great player in my opinion. Someone who has the ability to pop up from midfield into the box.
guess who in the premier league has had the most shots off target so far. Yes, us with 52. Step forward whelan and nzonzi. Every time the ball drops to them on the edge of the box you have to duck by the corner flag. Seriously couldn't shoot their load them pair. Not their strong point. Bound to score tomorrow now.
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Sept 19, 2014 15:01:54 GMT
For any team needing goals Ireland. Is not the answer
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Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2014 15:09:37 GMT
Problem with his foot. He will be checked tomorrow. (From MH press conference) |
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Post by FullerMagic on Sept 19, 2014 15:13:47 GMT
Looks like the only debates are going to be over one of the wingers, and the potential absence of Walters and Arnie could give Assaidi a free run?
.....and who from Diouf/Ireland/Bojan plays behind Crouch?
You'd think it'd almost certainly be Diouf if we try and re-create the Man City template?
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Post by metalhead on Sept 19, 2014 15:23:16 GMT
Arnie really needs to play. He's been dropped for two games now, he's got the message. Unless he's injured he needs to start tomorrow.
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Post by sportsman on Sept 19, 2014 15:25:39 GMT
For any team needing goals Ireland. Is not the answer And whelan and nzonzi are? I know which one I'd back. |
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Post by redwhite on Sept 19, 2014 16:06:18 GMT
Great. Hope ireland does play. Just need get him back to match fit and we have a great player in my opinion. Someone who has the ability to pop up from midfield into the box. guess who in the premier league has had the most shots off target so far. Yes, us with 52. Step forward whelan and nzonzi. Every time the ball drops to them on the edge of the box you have to duck by the corner flag. Seriously couldn't shoot their load them pair. Not their strong point. Bound to score tomorrow now. Not sure ireland will solve that issue. Surely you'd be gunning for Charlie Adam to start if you were worried about shots from the edge of the box? |
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Post by adi on Sept 19, 2014 16:24:15 GMT
For any team needing goals Ireland. Is not the answer He is for me. But so is Adam. |
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Post by sportsman on Sept 19, 2014 16:24:21 GMT
Great. Hope ireland does play. Just need get him back to match fit and we have a great player in my opinion. Someone who has the ability to pop up from midfield into the box. guess who in the premier league has had the most shots off target so far. Yes, us with 52. Step forward whelan and nzonzi. Every time the ball drops to them on the edge of the box you have to duck by the corner flag. Seriously couldn't shoot their load them pair. Not their strong point. Bound to score tomorrow now. Not sure ireland will solve that issue. Surely you'd be gunning for Charlie Adam to start if you were worried about shots from the edge of the box? but I'd also worry about him staying on the pitch. Ireland does like to get in the box. Offers something different. Links play and keeps us moving. Get the feeling hughes does as well. |
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Post by corkstokie on Sept 19, 2014 16:36:12 GMT
Charlie is good at what he does - shoot and foul - Ireland is much more of a threat
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Post by jezzascfc on Sept 19, 2014 16:36:49 GMT
I tihkn we need to recreate, as close as possible, the front four that worked so well together at the back end of last season. Just put Victor in place of Wingy - so we have Moses and Arnie wide, and Ireland behind Crouch, with Diouf and Ossie ready to come on against tiring legs after an hour.
I hope Arnie is fit and has got the message from two games on the bench that he can't just coast along. He is a major talent, but even good players must work hard.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Sept 19, 2014 16:43:36 GMT
If Adam didn't get on last week, it's almost inconceivable that he will start this week. If Ireland is anywhere near fit you'd imagine he'll be straight back in. He loves him.
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Post by scfcmacca on Sept 19, 2014 17:03:45 GMT
Met Ireland last week at work said he was back in training and was hopping to feature again soon. Also said he's enjoying his football again and loves stoke, to be fair he wasn't going to say anything else was he?. Hope he starts tomorrow with Moses, arnie and diouf. Now that's a powerful attacking 4 with whelan and nzonzi sitting behind them to control the play.
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Post by davejohnno1 on Sept 20, 2014 7:10:31 GMT
Walters is never injured.
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Post by davejohnno1 on Sept 20, 2014 7:14:59 GMT
Looks like the only debates are going to be over one of the wingers, and the potential absence of Walters and Arnie could give Assaidi a free run? .....and who from Diouf/Ireland/Bojan plays behind Crouch? You'd think it'd almost certainly be Diouf if we try and re-create the Man City template?
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Whelan-NzonziWalters/Arnie/Assaidi -Diouf/Bojan/Ireland- MosesCrouchWhy try to create the Man City formula? QPR are shit. It is also worth noting that even at Man City we didn't play truly well until Walters was replaced by Odemwingie. Until half time, we were resolute. Nothing more than that and the best we would have got had we continued playing like that was a 0-0. For me, we need to win today so that means no Walters or certainly not in the same team as Crouch. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2014 7:24:20 GMT
If Adam didn't get on last week, it's almost inconceivable that he will start this week. If Ireland is anywhere near fit you'd imagine he'll be straight back in. He loves him. It could be a lot worse Sheik. He could be madly in love with Walters instead. |
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Post by davejohnno1 on Sept 20, 2014 7:42:05 GMT
If Adam didn't get on last week, it's almost inconceivable that he will start this week. If Ireland is anywhere near fit you'd imagine he'll be straight back in. He loves him. It could be a lot worse Sheik. He could be madly in love with Walters instead. If Walters starts today there is a case to say he is. I find it inconceivable, given the players we have available, that Walters would start 3 consecutive games in the same 11 as Crouch. |
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Post by partickpotter on Sept 20, 2014 7:47:16 GMT
It could be a lot worse Sheik. He could be madly in love with Walters instead. If Walters starts today there is a case to say he is. I find it inconceivable, given the players we have available, that Walters would start 3 consecutive games in the same 11 as Crouch. Agreed. Even 2 consecutive games was strange. Forwards that don't score goals is a peculiar modern football approach - not one I am comfortable with. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2014 8:00:55 GMT
It could be a lot worse Sheik. He could be madly in love with Walters instead. If Walters starts today there is a case to say he is. I find it inconceivable, given the players we have available, that Walters would start 3 consecutive games in the same 11 as Crouch. 1 consecutive game is enough for me Johnno  |
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Post by stokemark on Sept 20, 2014 9:02:54 GMT
It funny
I have no particular love for Stephen Ireland nor dislike of John Walters but the fact is that Ireland was a key player in our end of season 'revival' last year. John Walters has also been key in certain types of game, in particular the top clubs away from home but rarely / never gets played in his best position (ie just behind the main striker) due to Crouch occupying the main role and therefore together being too immobile.
Ireland has been at his best at home when occupying a similar position thus I see both remain important cogs in the Stoke City wheel. Ireland was criticised for his poor showing at home to Villa but his rib injury was picked up relatively early on in that game when Villa 'did a job' on him.
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Post by lordb on Sept 20, 2014 9:15:54 GMT
Looks like the only debates are going to be over one of the wingers, and the potential absence of Walters and Arnie could give Assaidi a free run? .....and who from Diouf/Ireland/Bojan plays behind Crouch? You'd think it'd almost certainly be Diouf if we try and re-create the Man City template?
Begovic
Bardsley-Shawcross-Wilson-Pieters
Whelan-NzonziWalters/Arnie/Assaidi -Diouf/Bojan/Ireland- MosesCrouchWhy try to create the Man City formula? QPR are shit. It is also worth noting that even at Man City we didn't play truly well until Walters was replaced by Odemwingie. Until half time, we were resolute. Nothing more than that and the best we would have got had we continued playing like that was a 0-0. For me, we need to win today so that means no Walters or certainly not in the same team as Crouch. Walters instead of Crouch would be fine on occasion I would say. Generally away I like the idea of pace so Diouf,Moses,Assaidi would be great but QPR are a side we will not be playing on the break so much so Crouch should play today. |
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Post by davejohnno1 on Sept 20, 2014 9:35:24 GMT
Why try to create the Man City formula? QPR are shit. It is also worth noting that even at Man City we didn't play truly well until Walters was replaced by Odemwingie. Until half time, we were resolute. Nothing more than that and the best we would have got had we continued playing like that was a 0-0. For me, we need to win today so that means no Walters or certainly not in the same team as Crouch. Walters instead of Crouch would be fine on occasion I would say. Generally away I like the idea of pace so Diouf,Moses,Assaidi would be great but QPR are a side we will not be playing on the break so much so Crouch should play today. So would I. Crouch OR Walters is fine but never both together. Whatever qualities each of them have they are all totally negated when they play in the same team. I said it last season and I stand by it now...if Walters and Crouch, are regular starters together, our battle will be one that takes place at the wrong end of the table. |
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Post by sheikhmomo on Sept 20, 2014 9:50:03 GMT
Crouch and Diouf up front today surely?
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Post by sheikhmomo on Sept 20, 2014 9:51:15 GMT
If Adam didn't get on last week, it's almost inconceivable that he will start this week. If Ireland is anywhere near fit you'd imagine he'll be straight back in. He loves him. It could be a lot worse Sheik. He could be madly in love with Walters instead. All managers have their 'boner players' sid and it's rarely a positive thing. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2014 10:10:50 GMT
Looks like the only debates are going to be over one of the wingers, and the potential absence of Walters and Arnie could give Assaidi a free run? .....and who from Diouf/Ireland/Bojan plays behind Crouch? You'd think it'd almost certainly be Diouf if we try and re-create the Man City template?
Begovic
Bardsley-Shawcross-Wilson-Pieters
Whelan-NzonziWalters/Arnie/Assaidi -Diouf/Bojan/Ireland- MosesCrouchWhy try to create the Man City formula? QPR are shit. It is also worth noting that even at Man City we didn't play truly well until Walters was replaced by Odemwingie. Until half time, we were resolute. Nothing more than that and the best we would have got had we continued playing like that was a 0-0. For me, we need to win today so that means no Walters or certainly not in the same team as Crouch. Playing on the counter seems to be working for many away teams this season. QPR will see this as a must win and will be coming at us so sit back, defend well then hit them on the break with pace. Rio Ferdinand and Clint Hill could really struggle with the pace of Moses and Diouf. |
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