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Post by owdestokie on Sept 14, 2014 21:36:48 GMT
One of the wankstains set pillars is, 'I just don't like the bloke', 'he's not a nice man', 'he drips poison' I wonder what they'll be doing when he's rowing 300 miles for dying kids in Stoke...a place he used to work in! What will you be doing wankers, when Tones on the Ostrich again? You do realise that you are attributing comments to other people that you just exaggerated and embellished all by yourself (yet again)and you are then attempting to associate them with all of the people (myself included) who think that Tony Pulis' brand of football and football management is something that Stoke City is far, far better off without? The overwhelming majority of people who concluded that his boring and negative football and his increasingly financially stupid,dreadful transfer dealings should lead to him being shown the door have never personally made any comment about Pulis as a person (even though I have some personal contact/knowledge of him) on the basis of it is irrelevant to how I and most others consider his suitability/ability to manage the football club. I like to have a laugh about things with you but a post like the one I have quoted are, Im sorry to say far more shameful than the mud you are trying to sling and make stick to everyone who does not share you rose tinted view of Pulis the manager of Stoke City. I have no doubt you will be able to point to some individuals who have indicated the things you say but we both know you are trying to associate that attitude with all who think less of Pulis the football manager that you do. I really do object to that and you trying to make capital out of the bloke doing some charity work. The triumphant last sentence of the post is a pretty good indication of where you are in the lost the plot stakes over Pulis - as if last nights idiotic thread wasn't evidence enough. For Gods sake man, snap out of it! Please don't include me in "the overwhelming majority of people (in your and a few other vocal minded people) statement. Thank you
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Post by mar1386 on Sept 14, 2014 21:41:47 GMT
Football aside (and we did play some shite....albeit Premier League shite) the man is as close to textbook hero figure as you could realistically get in footballing terms. Villa at home after his Mums' funeral. His work with Donna Louise Trust. And this horrendous experience. I get why people hated his football at times. And he could be a difficult bastard. But could you really be a Stoke fan and truly hate him? Really hate him??? Nobody hates him. It's a line that is wrongly peddled by the people that love him whenever he is questioned over his methods at Stoke, be it his tactics or transfer policy. Pulis has done more for the area than anyone on here, regardless of which side of the fence they sit on. It doesn't alter the stone cold fact that for as much as he took us forward, he was taking us backwards despite being heavily backed in the transfer market. One side of the argument can see both sides. One side can see one side. Personally i've asked a pertinent question on a number of threads asking why the bloke that supposedly loved him (Coates) sacked him and not one person has had the decency to answer, and have chosen to bypass it at all costs. The reason for that is simple. They don't want to answer it. It's easily answered - if Peter had his way TP would still be here, Denise and John call the shots.
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Post by MarkWolstanton on Sept 14, 2014 21:45:54 GMT
Does anyone hate him? I think its terrible that it has come to a point where some posters are accusing others of hating someone. Pulis was great for Stoke & Stoke were great for him. People may not have liked his methods at times but its just about opinions. Everyone is entitled to an opinion, no opinion is right or wrong. That's why we discuss and debate things, do we always need to turn it into an argument? I think if you ask any Stoke fan, they will havethe up most respect for what he did during his time here, not just for the club but for the community as well. Real sad news about what he & his family had to go through. It has nothing to do with hating anyone for the vast majority. The only hate involved was associated with the football style and philosophy of a manager who took limited and joy reduction to new depths when at the club. The Pulis hate line was invented by those who could not think of any other way to articulate why they disagreed.
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Post by owdestokie on Sept 14, 2014 21:50:20 GMT
Football aside (and we did play some shite....albeit Premier League shite) the man is as close to textbook hero figure as you could realistically get in footballing terms. Villa at home after his Mums' funeral. His work with Donna Louise Trust. And this horrendous experience. I get why people hated his football at times. And he could be a difficult bastard. But could you really be a Stoke fan and truly hate him? Really hate him??? Nobody hates him. It's a line that is wrongly peddled by the people that love him whenever he is questioned over his methods at Stoke, be it his tactics or transfer policy. Pulis has done more for the area than anyone on here, regardless of which side of the fence they sit on. It doesn't alter the stone cold fact that for as much as he took us forward, he was taking us backwards despite being heavily backed in the transfer market. One side of the argument can see both sides. One side can see one side. Personally i've asked a pertinent question on a number of threads asking why the bloke that supposedly loved him (Coates) sacked him and not one person has had the decency to answer, and have chosen to bypass it at all costs. The reason for that is simple. They don't want to answer it. I take you have inside information that "Coates" sacked him then, if not it's conjecture and accept it unless you can't understand that sometimes in Iife people mutually decide to go in different directions. I would love to have seen "Coates's" wedding invitation from a bloke he just "sacked"
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Post by Gods on Sept 14, 2014 21:50:27 GMT
Top man is Tone.
Gave us our pride back after a quarter of a century in the wilderness washing around anonymously between the old divisions 2 and 3.
It's a straight shoot out between Waddo and Tone for our finest manager of the modern era.
I think I'd stand up if he entered the room and there are few people for whom I'd do that.
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Post by MarkWolstanton on Sept 14, 2014 21:55:11 GMT
You do realise that you are attributing comments to other people that you just exaggerated and embellished all by yourself (yet again)and you are then attempting to associate them with all of the people (myself included) who think that Tony Pulis' brand of football and football management is something that Stoke City is far, far better off without? The overwhelming majority of people who concluded that his boring and negative football and his increasingly financially stupid,dreadful transfer dealings should lead to him being shown the door have never personally made any comment about Pulis as a person (even though I have some personal contact/knowledge of him) on the basis of it is irrelevant to how I and most others consider his suitability/ability to manage the football club. I like to have a laugh about things with you but a post like the one I have quoted are, Im sorry to say far more shameful than the mud you are trying to sling and make stick to everyone who does not share you rose tinted view of Pulis the manager of Stoke City. I have no doubt you will be able to point to some individuals who have indicated the things you say but we both know you are trying to associate that attitude with all who think less of Pulis the football manager that you do. I really do object to that and you trying to make capital out of the bloke doing some charity work. The triumphant last sentence of the post is a pretty good indication of where you are in the lost the plot stakes over Pulis - as if last nights idiotic thread wasn't evidence enough. For Gods sake man, snap out of it! Please don't include me in "the overwhelming majority of people (in your and a few other vocal minded people) statement. Thank you Can I include you in the tiny minority incapable of reading a post properly? It reads the "overwhelming majority of people who concluded". You have read "the overwhelming majority" and then rushed to your keyboard. Can you see the difference now? It is subtle but quite important in the context of what you (representative of the silent majority it seems)are trying to dissociate yourself from. I wasn't trying to claim any majority in terms of the overall support base views (although it is as clear as day most had indeed had enough of the shite served up). No need to thank me. I can assure you that I wasn't thinking of you when I typed it.
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Post by Davef on Sept 14, 2014 21:56:30 GMT
I could find a 1000 hate filled messages with very little effort if I could be arsed. The architects never got banned or their posts shit binned or deleted for some reason though? I have removed every post I've spotted which was abusive towards Tony Pulis and other people at the club.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2014 21:56:56 GMT
Nobody hates him. It's a line that is wrongly peddled by the people that love him whenever he is questioned over his methods at Stoke, be it his tactics or transfer policy. Pulis has done more for the area than anyone on here, regardless of which side of the fence they sit on. It doesn't alter the stone cold fact that for as much as he took us forward, he was taking us backwards despite being heavily backed in the transfer market. One side of the argument can see both sides. One side can see one side. Personally i've asked a pertinent question on a number of threads asking why the bloke that supposedly loved him (Coates) sacked him and not one person has had the decency to answer, and have chosen to bypass it at all costs. The reason for that is simple. They don't want to answer it. I take you have inside information that "Coates" sacked him then, if not it's conjecture and accept it unless you can't understand that sometimes in Iife people mutually decide to go in different directions. I would love to have seen "Coates's" wedding invitation from a bloke he just "sacked" Pulis has gone public on more than one occasion to say he understands why he was sacked and that he accepts it.
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Post by MarkWolstanton on Sept 14, 2014 21:59:33 GMT
I could find a 1000 hate filled messages with very little effort if I could be arsed. The architects never got banned or their posts shit binned or deleted for some reason though? I have removed every post I've spotted which were abusive towards Tony Pulis and other people at the club. And I will be fucked if I am going to let posts that are just outright lies sit on the message board when I see them.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2014 22:02:45 GMT
I would just like to say that when any manager offers up genuine reasons for failure in the most tragic of circumstances then we the fans should accept graciously his comments in the spirit they were made . I find the tone and manner of some comments on this thread pretty pathetic and truly childish on both sides of the fence. I think in the interests of common decency and integrity we should say no more on this particular subject and the sooner it is removed the better before we collectively do anymore damage to the image of the club. Personal tragedy should not be used as an excuse for tribal insults. Mumf Mark.....perhaps it's better if for this boards sake you do the right thing ? FFS..!
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Post by MarkWolstanton on Sept 14, 2014 22:03:18 GMT
Nobody hates him. It's a line that is wrongly peddled by the people that love him whenever he is questioned over his methods at Stoke, be it his tactics or transfer policy. Pulis has done more for the area than anyone on here, regardless of which side of the fence they sit on. It doesn't alter the stone cold fact that for as much as he took us forward, he was taking us backwards despite being heavily backed in the transfer market. One side of the argument can see both sides. One side can see one side. Personally i've asked a pertinent question on a number of threads asking why the bloke that supposedly loved him (Coates) sacked him and not one person has had the decency to answer, and have chosen to bypass it at all costs. The reason for that is simple. They don't want to answer it. I take you have inside information that "Coates" sacked him then, if not it's conjecture and accept it unless you can't understand that sometimes in Iife people mutually decide to go in different directions. I would love to have seen "Coates's" wedding invitation from a bloke he just "sacked" Is your evidence that he wasn't sacked a wedding invitation then? Do you actually think that people who get removed from senior positions then become sworn enemies of the person who replaced them? He was sacked/removed/dismissed and then replaced. Why try and pretend otherwise? What is the point?
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Post by owdestokie on Sept 14, 2014 22:05:07 GMT
Please don't include me in "the overwhelming majority of people (in your and a few other vocal minded people) statement. Thank you Can I include you in the tiny minority incapable of reading a post properly? It reads the "overwhelming majority of people who concluded". You have read "the overwhelming majority" and then rushed to your keyboard. Can you see the difference now? It is subtle but quite important in the context of what you (representative of the silent majority it seems)are trying to dissociate yourself from. I wasn't trying to claim any majority in terms of the overall support base views (although it is as clear as day most had indeed had enough of the shite served up). No need to thank me. I can assure you that I wasn't thinking of you when I typed it. Thank goodness you did not think of, or include me in your well constructed agenda driven drivel. No I didn't include you and frankly your inability to understand the post in the first place would have made it a wasted effort if I had. Regards M
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Post by MarkWolstanton on Sept 14, 2014 22:06:54 GMT
Sadly it seems best to lock this subject. It is being used by the usual suspects to cause unnecessary problems that will only suck more of us in.
Im sure we can all wish TP well in his latest charitable effort.
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