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Post by tazi on Sept 14, 2014 15:35:42 GMT
If one scores a superb volley does that make one gifted then?. You obviously haven't watched it then. It wasn't A superb volley it was superb VOLLEY'S. Manchester United, Chelsea, Barcelona, Bayern Munich. Doesn't scream mediocre to me. He's here. |
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Post by tazi on Sept 14, 2014 15:37:12 GMT
If one scores a superb volley does that make one gifted then?. He's scored loads of them mate. Scissor kick vs Man City. Volley for Wales. Semi final volley vs Oldham. All utter stunners. His CWC final goal wasn't a volley but it was a beautiful finish from a right angle. Crouch has scored a few in his tine too so would Crouch be classed as gifted?. |
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Post by Kjones9 on Sept 14, 2014 15:38:18 GMT
He's scored loads of them mate. Scissor kick vs Man City. Volley for Wales. Semi final volley vs Oldham. All utter stunners. His CWC final goal wasn't a volley but it was a beautiful finish from a right angle. Crouch has scored a few in his tine too so would Crouch be classed as gifted?. Well obviously. Like I said, not a fucking clue. |
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Post by chiefdelilah on Sept 14, 2014 15:38:55 GMT
I am not sure why you would post any of that? The former Manchester Utd, Chelsea, Barcelona, Bayern Munich, etc. etc. striker playing 606 top flight games and 72 internationals, winning 13 trophies (possibly more) and voted PFA player of the year, was 'not the most gifted of players'???? Yet you recall he knew how to get results playing for Man Utd when they played lesser teams??? Then you claim as a manger he isn't able to beat lesser teams??? I'm sure he managed on many occasions when manager of Blackburn, Man City and Fulham to beat 'leseer teams', but at Stoke alone, he has overseen victories over the likes of Aston Villa, Fulham, WBA, Crystal Palace, Sunderland, West Ham, Hull and Newcastle. Are you a little confused as to the meaning 'gifted'. So, I guess by your meaning of the word gifted then you would put him in the same bracket as an Eric Cantana or even a Ricardo Fuller?. I class gifted players as players that can do the unexpected. Like adjusting your body in mid air to clatter a scissor kick in off the bar? Or reacting in a fraction of a second to strike one precisely over the keeper in the last minute? Don't think you have to be able to run past five defenders to be classed as gifted Taz. |
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Post by chiefdelilah on Sept 14, 2014 15:39:05 GMT
He's scored loads of them mate. Scissor kick vs Man City. Volley for Wales. Semi final volley vs Oldham. All utter stunners. His CWC final goal wasn't a volley but it was a beautiful finish from a right angle. Crouch has scored a few in his tine too so would Crouch be classed as gifted?. Yes. |
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Post by tazi on Sept 14, 2014 15:39:33 GMT
Crouch has scored a few in his tine too so would Crouch be classed as gifted?. Well obviously. Like I said, not a fucking clue. Given the reasons as to the meaning of gifted. Not a fcuking clue, but rich don't ya think coming from you?. |
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Post by tazi on Sept 14, 2014 15:41:21 GMT
Are you a little confused as to the meaning 'gifted'. So, I guess by your meaning of the word gifted then you would put him in the same bracket as an Eric Cantana or even a Ricardo Fuller?. I class gifted players as players that can do the unexpected. Like adjusting your body in mid air to clatter a scissor kick in off the bar? Or reacting in a fraction of a second to strike one precisely over the keeper in the last minute? Don't think you have to be able to run past five defenders to be classed as gifted Taz. Did you not see Mama's goal v Fulham I think it was, that must surely make him gifted too or his assist for Fuller v Arsenal. |
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Post by Kjones9 on Sept 14, 2014 15:42:43 GMT
Well obviously. Like I said, not a fucking clue. Given the reasons as to the meaning of gifted. Not a fcuking clue, but rich don't ya think coming from you?. All I need to say is over 300 premier league appearances and 42 england caps. You're a sad, sad cretin. |
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Post by chiefdelilah on Sept 14, 2014 15:42:46 GMT
Like adjusting your body in mid air to clatter a scissor kick in off the bar? Or reacting in a fraction of a second to strike one precisely over the keeper in the last minute? Don't think you have to be able to run past five defenders to be classed as gifted Taz. Did you not see Mama's goal v Fulham I think it was, that must surely make him gifted too or his assist for Fuller v Arsenal. You're being silly now. If you do something regularly then it's fair to say you've shown you're gifted, no? |
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Post by tazi on Sept 14, 2014 15:43:50 GMT
Given the reasons as to the meaning of gifted. Not a fcuking clue, but rich don't ya think coming from you?. All I need to say is over 300 premier league appearances and 42 england caps. You're a sad, sad cretin. Oh dear a cretin calling someone a cretin. Get over yourself. |
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Post by Kjones9 on Sept 14, 2014 15:45:48 GMT
All I need to say is over 300 premier league appearances and 42 england caps. You're a sad, sad cretin. Oh dear a cretin calling someone a cretin. Get over yourself. How old are you? I'm betting too old to be acting the cock on a internet message board. |
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Post by tazi on Sept 14, 2014 15:47:57 GMT
Given the reasons as to the meaning of gifted. Not a fcuking clue, but rich don't ya think coming from you?. All I need to say is over 300 premier league appearances and 42 england caps. You're a sad, sad cretin. I don't mind someone calling me a sad sad cretin because to get called it by someone who claims that Mark Hughes has 42 England caps makes it even more funnier. |
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Post by tazi on Sept 14, 2014 15:51:35 GMT
Oh dear a cretin calling someone a cretin. Get over yourself. How old are you? I'm betting too old to be acting the cock on a internet message board. You certainly are betting 'see what I did there?'' a bit too old, Mark Hughes has 42 England caps.......Has he had e'm off e'bay you think?. |
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Post by Kjones9 on Sept 14, 2014 15:52:13 GMT
All I need to say is over 300 premier league appearances and 42 england caps. You're a sad, sad cretin. I don't mind someone calling me a sad sad cretin because to get called it by someone who claims that Mark Hughes has 42 England caps makes it even more funnier. You really are a childish simpleton. With social skills like that no wonder you've signed back up (again!!). I suppose the bentilee high life's hard for you to keep up with. |
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Post by tazi on Sept 14, 2014 15:53:16 GMT
Did you not see Mama's goal v Fulham I think it was, that must surely make him gifted too or his assist for Fuller v Arsenal. You're being silly now. If you do something regularly then it's fair to say you've shown you're gifted, no? I guess one didn't really see it from all angles the point you were trying to make. |
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Post by tazi on Sept 14, 2014 15:54:40 GMT
I don't mind someone calling me a sad sad cretin because to get called it by someone who claims that Mark Hughes has 42 England caps makes it even more funnier. You really are a childish simpleton. With social skills like that no wonder you've signed back up (again!!). I suppose the bentilee high life's hard for you to keep up with. Ha ha ha I got called a sad sad cretin by someone who claims Mark Hughes has 42 England caps. |
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Post by tazi on Sept 14, 2014 15:59:01 GMT
I don't mind someone calling me a sad sad cretin because to get called it by someone who claims that Mark Hughes has 42 England caps makes it even more funnier. You really are a childish simpleton. With social skills like that no wonder you've signed back up (again!!). I suppose the bentilee high life's hard for you to keep up with. To then get called a childish simpleton after getting abused/accused of being a sad sad cretin really does take some doing. |
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Post by chiefdelilah on Sept 14, 2014 16:08:53 GMT
You're being silly now. If you do something regularly then it's fair to say you've shown you're gifted, no? I guess one didn't really see it from all angles the point you were trying to make. You've lost me now Taz. I'll leave you with a reiteration of my point. There is an absolute stack of evidence that suggests that at his peak Mark Hughes was a world class centre forward. That is all. |
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Post by tazi on Sept 14, 2014 16:15:54 GMT
I guess one didn't really see it from all angles the point you were trying to make. You've lost me now Taz. I'll leave you with a reiteration of my point. There is an absolute stack of evidence that suggests that at his peak Mark Hughes was a world class centre forward. That is all. I've seen supposed Mediocre players score great volleys 'not that Mark Hughes was' and neither in my opinion would I say he was gifted as a player either. I class gifted as exciting, someone that gets bums off seats as soon as the ball is on it's way to them. I never meant to rubbish Mark Hughes's abilities as a player and neither do I believe it came across as that but apologise if it did. He was a good player who knew his abilities as a player and the ammount of hard work it took to keep him there. |
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Post by tazi on Sept 14, 2014 16:20:10 GMT
Sorry, I also class gifted as the same as natural.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2014 16:26:57 GMT
All I need to say is over 300 premier league appearances and 42 england caps. You're a sad, sad cretin. I don't mind someone calling me a sad sad cretin because to get called it by someone who claims that Mark Hughes has 42 England caps makes it even more funnier. I think he's referring to Peter Crouch....  |
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Post by tazi on Sept 14, 2014 16:30:57 GMT
I don't mind someone calling me a sad sad cretin because to get called it by someone who claims that Mark Hughes has 42 England caps makes it even more funnier. I think he's referring to Peter Crouch.... As his typed words of 'Mark Hughes' would testify that he did indeed mean Peter Crouch. Mind you though I have been known to be wrong on several occasions. |
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Post by Kjones9 on Sept 14, 2014 16:34:47 GMT
I think he's referring to Peter Crouch.... As his typed words of 'Mark Hughes' would testify that he did indeed mean Peter Crouch. Mind you though I have been known to be wrong on several occasions. As I didn't even type mark Hughes and you had asked me if Peter crouch was gifted, it's fair to say that my analysis of you is spot on. |
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Post by tazi on Sept 14, 2014 16:42:01 GMT
As his typed words of 'Mark Hughes' would testify that he did indeed mean Peter Crouch. Mind you though I have been known to be wrong on several occasions. As I didn't even type mark Hughes and you had asked me if Peter crouch was gifted, it's fair to say that my analysis of you is spot on. I wasn't aware that I'd asked yourself if YOU thought Crouch was gifted, Infact I didn't. |
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Post by spitshaw on Sept 14, 2014 19:23:44 GMT
Get a room gaylords and be quiet
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Post by Kjones9 on Sept 14, 2014 19:44:06 GMT
Get a room gaylords and be quiet I am quiet, I'm typing. Also stop being so homophobic, it's not the 80's anymore. |
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Post by slother on Sept 14, 2014 20:05:54 GMT
There's some stupid bloody revisionism and hindsight talking going on here. Up until their goal it looked it was simply a matter of time until we took the lead. After the goal we lost our heads a bit, it went a bit Crouch-hoofy as they defended their lead and our crossing left a lot to be desired. Just one of those games really. Fergeddaboudit.
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