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Post by trickydicky73 on Sept 16, 2014 10:04:26 GMT
Walters has to be dropped. We need pace up front to expose Ferdinand and Hill. Diouf will terrorise them and Moses will be key, too. I think we'll do them by 2 goals.
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Post by kurt on Sept 16, 2014 10:09:56 GMT
Bego
Bardsley Ryan Wilson Pieters
Whelan Nzonzi
Moses Ireland Arni
Diouf
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Post by metalhead on Sept 16, 2014 10:10:11 GMT
Walters has to be dropped. We need pace up front to expose Ferdinand and Hill. Diouf will terrorise them and Moses will be key, too. I think we'll do them by 2 goals. For sure!! Diouf in, Walters and Crouch out. I would also start with Bojan. Frontline Arnie, Bojan, Moses, Diouf,
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Post by GeneralFaye on Sept 16, 2014 10:24:11 GMT
We're deffo more suited to playing away from home now.. which is weird and a little sad tbh :/
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Post by britsabroad on Sept 16, 2014 10:31:52 GMT
Walters has to be dropped. We need pace up front to expose Ferdinand and Hill. Diouf will terrorise them and Moses will be key, too. I think we'll do them by 2 goals. This. Defenders as experienced as Ferdinand and physical as Hill will deal with punts to Crouch and Walters all day long. Quick players with good movement are needed to expose their lack of mobility.
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Post by potterpaul on Sept 16, 2014 10:38:20 GMT
why should Muniesa be fielded in our midfield ? How will he help our cause ? If you're going to drop whelan surely not to replace him with Muniesa! I haven't seen anything so far to convince me that he deserves a place in the starting XI So completely changing the midfield is the way to go then? Ireland has been injured, Muniesa has never featured for us in midfield and Adam is not a first choice at the moment, not that I don't think he should get a run out against QPR. But, what the hell have Whelan and N'Zonzi done wrong? You can't just drop these two at the moment and expect the triumvirate you've picked to fire on all cylinders from the off. At home yes. We need more drive from midfield to undo the opposition defence. My choice of midfield will never happen so there's no need to get your knickers in a twist. Against QPR away and other away games I'm quite happy with Nzonzi and Whelan, they do a decent enough job.
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Post by jimmygscfc on Sept 16, 2014 10:43:42 GMT
On this 'Team v QPR' thread I must have missed where you mentioned playing Muniesa, Adam and Ireland at home. Whether my knickers are actually in a twist I'm not alone it seems.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Sept 16, 2014 11:23:40 GMT
Personally I'd play with the best 11 possible rather than changing it for what if, if I'm being honest I really don't like that midfield, you've got two players that cant tackle, I like Muniesa as a player but he needs to be test in a cup game or two to see if he can play the position, seems to me like he'd be thrown in the deep end with the others you've picked as he'd have to cover A LOT of their work, and as I've said before I don't think Adam is good enough, too many negatives to his game, but thats just personal opinion. There's no evidence he can either, we need the points, seems too much of a risk to me when you have someone thats playing as well as Whelan is in that role. And you seriously think Walters is in our best possible xi? Really ? Form wise atm yes, but if everyone was playing to their best then no.
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Post by Danstoke82 on Sept 16, 2014 12:09:58 GMT
As long as it isn't "Registered Charity Day" then Im happy to put trust into whatever team Hughes puts out!!
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Post by Birchesheadpotter on Sept 16, 2014 13:22:38 GMT
There is only one problem with the way we are setting up for games at the minute, and I'm guessing it's the reason Hughes' teams grown into the season; a lack of conviction.
No split minded strategical choices in personal, no fleeting minute to minute game plans, we need to pick the best players for the way we want to approach the game tactically, and commit to it. Urgent, full paced attacking intent from the first whistle, in every attack and every counter.
Begovic
Bardsley . Shawcross . Huth/Wilson . Muniesa
Whelan . N'Zonzi
Moses . Bojan . Arnautovic
Diouf
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Post by chigstoke on Sept 16, 2014 14:33:39 GMT
Begovic Bardsley shawcross wilson pieters Moses whelan diouf arnautovic Crouch bojan I wouldn't be chancing Diouf in CM. It'd have to be N'Zonzi in there for me. Also have Diouf up top with Crouch not Bojan. Will probably end up being the team that beat Man City though.
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Post by stoke111 on Sept 16, 2014 14:47:45 GMT
I feel Muni is far too weak. He got bullied off the ball far too easily on Saturday. He doesn't fill me with confidence defensively.
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Post by jezzascfc on Sept 16, 2014 14:52:33 GMT
QPR's defence has Clint Hill at left back FFS! Yes, that Clint Hill. We put Moses out there and tell him to run at him at every available opportunity. The creaking bones of Rio need to be tested by the pace of Diouf in the middle, not by the even slower Crouchy. Get Arnie back on the left to give them something to think about on that side too. Assaidi can come on for the last 20 minutes to run at tired limbs.
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Post by mtrstudent on Sept 16, 2014 14:57:59 GMT
Assaidi's delivery was pretty shocking when he came on against Leicester. I'd be tempted to try last week's team with Assaidi on from the beginning. If we think QPR aren't going to sit back then we could use the pace more than Walter's work rate. And I want Bojan to come good. Most of the time he was looking forwards and I reckon he's gonna do a better job of linking and through balls than Diouf. Good opportunity to get Moses and Assaidi in behind.
If they do a Villa/Leicester and try to park the bus then I'd put Diouf and Arnie in place of Bojan and Assaidi. A bigger brute in the middle to get on the end of crosses, and I reckon Arnie has a better cross on him.
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Post by djralphy2k9 on Sept 16, 2014 15:47:37 GMT
Bego
Bardsley Shawcross Wilson Muniesa
Nzonzi Whelan
Moses Bojan Arnie
Diouf
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Post by scfcbiancorossi on Sept 16, 2014 16:03:40 GMT
Bego Bardsley Shawcross Wilson Muniesa Nzonzi Whelan Moses Bojan Arnie Diouf really like the look of that. Even more so than my own team
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Post by mrcoke on Sept 16, 2014 16:17:10 GMT
Beggo Bardsley Ryan Wilson Pieters Adam Muniesa Moses Ireland Arnie Diouf The only player I feel I'm being harsh on is Whelan. He's done nothing wrong. I'd drop him for a tactical reason only. No way. After Bego and Ryan, N'Zonzi and Whelan have to be the next pair to pick for a Stoke team sheet. It often seems forgotten that football is a team game, N'Z & Wh work excellently together and are playing well. Stoke's excellent defence, only 3 goals conceded, starts with this pair in front of the back 4, which shouldn't be tampered with. Stoke's problem is in front of them and finding the combination to score goals. Hopefully Diouf and Moses will be fresh for Saturday, having rested this week and recovered from their travels, and with Bojan and Crouch can score. With all the chances they created last Saturday, they will start finding the net. I like Adam, Ireland, and Arnie as well but MH's current first choices are improving and will start converting the chances into goals
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Post by malteser68 on Sept 16, 2014 17:10:53 GMT
Walters has to be dropped. We need pace up front to expose Ferdinand and Hill. Diouf will terrorise them and Moses will be key, too. I think we'll do them by 2 goals. if hill plays I'd field assaidi against him
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Post by trickydicky73 on Sept 16, 2014 19:32:00 GMT
We have several players who can run them ragged and Assaidi is one. I think Moses is going to give them fits. If we can isolate Hill and use our pace we can hammer the twats.
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Post by jwhpotter on Sept 17, 2014 7:47:43 GMT
Bego Bardsley Shawcross Wilson Pieters Whelan Nzonzi Moses Diouf Assaidi Crouch
If we are losing second half changes must be made earlier, Adam & Arnie could make an impact
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Post by stokiejoeofalsager on Sept 17, 2014 9:12:33 GMT
Begovic Bardsley Shawcross Wilson Pieters Whelan Nzonzi Moses Bojan Arnautovic Diouf Bench: Crouch Sorensen Huth Assaidi Muniesa Adam Walters We just need to click like we did last year. As said further up the thread, we'll batter some teams on the road this year because they'll play so much more openly. I think these games will suit Bojan more too as he'll have more space and runs to pick the right balls.
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Post by vahl on Sept 17, 2014 9:22:41 GMT
Begovic
Cameron Shawcross Wilson Pieters
N'Zonzi Whelan
Adam
Diouf Crouch Assaidi
I wanted the same team for Leicester. That's our best 11 for me and I'm pretty confident that, once this team selection is made, it will show us why. -edit I know Bardsley will play RB.
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Post by jwhpotter on Sept 17, 2014 9:27:03 GMT
Begovic
Cameron Shawcross Wilson Pieters
N'Zonzi Whelan
Adam
Diouf Crouch Assaidi
I wanted the same team for Leicester. That's our best 11 for me and I'm pretty confident that, once this team selection is made, it will show us why. Cameron is still out after his operation mate. Its interesting how many front 4 variations I've seen on here- lets hope Hughes gets it right
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Post by vahl on Sept 17, 2014 9:28:39 GMT
Begovic
Cameron Shawcross Wilson Pieters
N'Zonzi Whelan
Adam
Diouf Crouch Assaidi
I wanted the same team for Leicester. That's our best 11 for me and I'm pretty confident that, once this team selection is made, it will show us why. Cameron is still out after his operation mate. Its interesting how many front 4 variations I've seen on here- lets hope Hughes gets it right I just edited as you posted. It was more of a 'this is the best team we could put out and should put out when available' but yeah, there's been a lot of variation. It's good really.
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Post by redwhite on Sept 17, 2014 9:49:41 GMT
Cameron is still out after his operation mate. Its interesting how many front 4 variations I've seen on here- lets hope Hughes gets it right I just edited as you posted. It was more of a 'this is the best team we could put out and should put out when available' but yeah, there's been a lot of variation. It's good really. How is that the best possible team? Wilson better than Huth? Diouf a winger? Assaidi better than Arnie and Moses?
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Post by vahl on Sept 17, 2014 10:18:53 GMT
I just edited as you posted. It was more of a 'this is the best team we could put out and should put out when available' but yeah, there's been a lot of variation. It's good really. How is that the best possible team? Wilson better than Huth? Diouf a winger? Assaidi better than Arnie and Moses? Wilson has been good enough - our problems are not defensive, are they? Huth is probably a better defender but I like Wilson and he is not the reason we aren't breaking teams down. Diouf as a winger - yes and no. I would do what we did against Man City and play him wide right but tell him to tuck in alongside Crouchy when possible. This allows your left winger to drift much wider and become more of an outlet as well. He basically played right wing at City though. Assaidi is the best fit for the team I would play. As I said above, Diouf would be given specific instructions (as he was against City it seems) to 'tuck in' and support Crouch when possible, which means we need maximum width and trickery on the left. Assaidi is the perfect player for this because he provides the right balance in the sense that he can either get his head down and swing a ball in or cut inside and really hurt you. I also like Assaidi as a player so he is personal preference. I guess my point is, some players may not be naturally as good as ones I wouldn't play but, a good football team is not just about having good footballers. We have a massive squad and it's important we find our sweet spot sooner rather than later, otherwise we are going to be in for a long season, again.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Sept 17, 2014 10:52:56 GMT
Begovic
Cameron Shawcross Wilson Pieters
N'Zonzi Whelan
Adam
Diouf Crouch Assaidi
I wanted the same team for Leicester. That's our best 11 for me and I'm pretty confident that, once this team selection is made, it will show us why. -edit I know Bardsley will play RB. Mosses not in your best 11? Also Bardsley is easily our best option at RB if everyones fit.
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Post by partickpotter on Sept 17, 2014 11:42:35 GMT
Bego Bardsley Shawcross Wilson Muniesa Nzonzi Whelan Moses Bojan Arnie Diouf really like the look of that. Even more so than my own team Seconded!
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Post by StokieAsh13 on Sept 17, 2014 11:53:03 GMT
If Ireland is fit -
Arnie Ireland Moses
Diouf
If Ireland isnt fit -
Moses Arnie Assaidi
Diouf
They wont cope with pace.
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Post by vahl on Sept 17, 2014 13:05:44 GMT
Begovic
Cameron Shawcross Wilson Pieters
N'Zonzi Whelan
Adam
Diouf Crouch Assaidi
I wanted the same team for Leicester. That's our best 11 for me and I'm pretty confident that, once this team selection is made, it will show us why. -edit I know Bardsley will play RB. Mosses not in your best 11? Also Bardsley is easily our best option at RB if everyones fit. It would be a toss up between Moses and Assaidi. I explained a couple of posts above but I just feel Assaidi would suit that team a bit better - right balance etc. I pretty much rate all the players we carry these days but we're missing something thus far. I believe it's just a case of piecing them together until it clicks. Bardsley or Cameron - Cameron edges it for me. I'm well aware of his dodgy far post defending but other than that, he equals Bardsley in every way for me. Again, I like them both and there really isn't a lot in it. I just think Cameron suits our defensive unit better. I'm not going to even bother with trying to 'fit' Bojan until he's been with us for at least 12 months. Looking at it from a supporters view, it's hard to see what we do with him yet. I can imagine Sparky scratching his head until it bleeds with it though.
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