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Ulloa
Sept 15, 2014 10:34:48 GMT
Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2014 10:34:48 GMT
I'd sign him for Stoke, especially if Crouch goes in summer.
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Ulloa
Sept 15, 2014 11:42:04 GMT
Post by nott1 on Sept 15, 2014 11:42:04 GMT
At least he scored!
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Ulloa
Sept 15, 2014 13:19:05 GMT
Post by ruts66 on Sept 15, 2014 13:19:05 GMT
If defenders don't touch their opponents they don't go down, simples. Sadly, most players are too thick to have grasped this... I take it you've never played the game. I did play, but at a time when players weren't so dishonest and didn't collapse in a heap at every opportunity. Sadly, referees are too easily conned these days which, rightly or wrongly, puts the onus on the defending player not to give him any excuse to blow the whistle. I hate cheating and feigning injury as much as anyone, believe me. I also love a good tackle, you can't beat a really good old-fashioned 'man and ball' job. I have never said that contact in football is wrong, they were Birchesheadpotter's words. It just really does my swede when defenders, for instance, go barrelling in and put their hands all over the back of an opponent therefore gormlessly playing into the hands of the cheats and weak refereeing. That's all...
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Ulloa
Sept 15, 2014 13:57:41 GMT
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Post by davejohnno1 on Sept 15, 2014 13:57:41 GMT
When we have one of our very own doing the same I think it's a good idea if we leave this one alone. People in glass houses and all that..... I think you're wrong in this particular aspect. Yes, Bojan dived as well in a vein attempt to win a penalty but he has been rightly criticised by us, the supporters, for doing that. The rest of our team will also make it clear to him that we don't do that sort of stuff at Stoke just like they did with Pieters last season. Ulloa was a cheat and has rightly been called for it. He spent more time on his arse than he did on his feet. Diving is simply wrong and Bojan needs to learn that quickly as well. He passed up the opportunity of an attempt on goal to dive and that isn't acceptable.
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Ulloa
Sept 15, 2014 14:01:17 GMT
Post by languedocfox on Sept 15, 2014 14:01:17 GMT
Sorry but this thread has the stench of sour grapes about it. I've seen each of Ulloa's four games this season, and he's absolutely not a diver. He scored a very good goal against you: end of story, really.
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Ulloa
Sept 15, 2014 14:10:38 GMT
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Post by pottersrule on Sept 15, 2014 14:10:38 GMT
Sorry but this thread has the stench of sour grapes about it. I've seen each of Ulloa's four games this season, and he's absolutely not a diver. He scored a very good goal against you: end of story, really. I think the comment by the chap sat by me was "Of all the players to score it has to be that diving,cheating twat"Said what he and a lot of others saw in my opinion.Who said cheats never prosper eh?
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Ulloa
Sept 15, 2014 14:11:29 GMT
Post by boskampsflaps on Sept 15, 2014 14:11:29 GMT
When we have one of our very own doing the same I think it's a good idea if we leave this one alone. People in glass houses and all that..... I think you're wrong in this particular aspect. Yes, Bojan dived as well in a vein attempt to win a penalty but he has been rightly criticised by us, the supporters, for doing that. The rest of our team will also make it clear to him that we don't do that sort of stuff at Stoke just like they did with Pieters last season.Ulloa was a cheat and has rightly been called for it. He spent more time on his arse than he did on his feet. Diving is simply wrong and Bojan needs to learn that quickly as well. He passed up the opportunity of an attempt on goal to dive and that isn't acceptable. They need to tell Walters too, his fall to the floor in the area was embarrassing and he would have done much better actually trying to head the bloody ball.
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Ulloa
Sept 15, 2014 14:14:29 GMT
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Post by pottersrule on Sept 15, 2014 14:14:29 GMT
I think you're wrong in this particular aspect. Yes, Bojan dived as well in a vein attempt to win a penalty but he has been rightly criticised by us, the supporters, for doing that. The rest of our team will also make it clear to him that we don't do that sort of stuff at Stoke just like they did with Pieters last season.Ulloa was a cheat and has rightly been called for it. He spent more time on his arse than he did on his feet. Diving is simply wrong and Bojan needs to learn that quickly as well. He passed up the opportunity of an attempt on goal to dive and that isn't acceptable. They need to tell Walters too, his fall to the floor in the area was embarrassing and he would have done much better actually trying to head the bloody ball. Wouldn't have happened in Tony's day.
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Ulloa
Sept 15, 2014 14:18:19 GMT
Post by boskampsflaps on Sept 15, 2014 14:18:19 GMT
They need to tell Walters too, his fall to the floor in the area was embarrassing and he would have done much better actually trying to head the bloody ball. Wouldn't have happened in Tony's day. He did it then too, I'm surprised he's still trying it.
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Ulloa
Sept 15, 2014 14:24:20 GMT
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Post by davejohnno1 on Sept 15, 2014 14:24:20 GMT
Sorry but this thread has the stench of sour grapes about it. I've seen each of Ulloa's four games this season, and he's absolutely not a diver. He scored a very good goal against you: end of story, really. Not sour grapes from me. He looks a decent player and a good signing but he really needs to "man up". Well perhaps he doesn't for you but he would need to if he was ours. His behaviour in the 1st half was embarrassing and something I commented on at half time as was your very cynical attempts to foul Bojan at every opportunity. The ref was weak and let you get away with it. The tactic worked so fair play for that. Its up to the ref to stop it but if you can get away with it you do. How you avoided a booking until the 83rd minute was beyond me especially as Crouch and one more of ours (think Pieters but struggling to recall) were booked for their very first challenges. Good luck to you though. You got a good 3 points. I'm more worried by our own inability to break down what was, on the day, very poor opposition than I am about whether your new centre forward is a cheat or not.
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Post by rawli on Sept 15, 2014 14:25:06 GMT
I think you're wrong in this particular aspect. Yes, Bojan dived as well in a vein attempt to win a penalty but he has been rightly criticised by us, the supporters, for doing that. The rest of our team will also make it clear to him that we don't do that sort of stuff at Stoke just like they did with Pieters last season.Ulloa was a cheat and has rightly been called for it. He spent more time on his arse than he did on his feet. Diving is simply wrong and Bojan needs to learn that quickly as well. He passed up the opportunity of an attempt on goal to dive and that isn't acceptable. They need to tell Walters too, his fall to the floor in the area was embarrassing and he would have done much better actually trying to head the bloody ball. Walters is even shit at diving.
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Ulloa
Sept 15, 2014 14:33:16 GMT
Post by metalhead on Sept 15, 2014 14:33:16 GMT
They need to tell Walters too, his fall to the floor in the area was embarrassing and he would have done much better actually trying to head the bloody ball. Walters is even shit at diving. Saturday's performance was the straw that broke the camel's back for me.
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Ulloa
Sept 15, 2014 14:39:14 GMT
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Post by dutchstokie on Sept 15, 2014 14:39:14 GMT
I thought he stood up to some robust defending from our lot to be honest....didnt think he went to ground easily at all.
Funny how we seem things differently inteet...
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Ulloa
Sept 15, 2014 14:48:30 GMT
Post by vahl on Sept 15, 2014 14:48:30 GMT
I thought he stood up to some robust defending from our lot to be honest....didnt think he went to ground easily at all. Funny how we seem things differently inteet... Agreed. He played well to be honest.
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Ulloa
Sept 15, 2014 14:57:20 GMT
Post by boskampsflaps on Sept 15, 2014 14:57:20 GMT
Walters is even shit at diving. Saturday's performance was the straw that broke the camel's back for me. I thought he played well, apart from the dive and the touch rather than shot (what was he thinking) he took in the box.
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Ulloa
Sept 15, 2014 14:59:58 GMT
Post by metalhead on Sept 15, 2014 14:59:58 GMT
Saturday's performance was the straw that broke the camel's back for me. I thought he played well, apart from the dive and the touch rather than shot (what was he thinking) he took in the box. I think it was this moment that sealed it for me. I've been an apologist for Walters for a long time. I've been willing to accept the things he does offer the team while overlooking some of his less attractive attributes. Saturday for me, he just didn't do enough. How he didn't shoot when he had the chance was unbelievable. Maybe a confidence issue? Maybe he's lost his belief? Who knows but I think it's best that Jon is used sparingly from now on. I fully believe if that had been Arnie, we would have scored.
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Ulloa
Sept 15, 2014 15:49:55 GMT
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Post by Birchesheadpotter on Sept 15, 2014 15:49:55 GMT
Seriously? Am I the only one who thinks defenders need to be a bit smarter if they want to prevent the cheaters/divers from winning easy free kicks, especially in areas where there's absolutely no danger? PS. Hope you've got over your terrible shock now, mate - must have been quite an ordeal... I couldn't be more serious. The only people responsible for preventing the cheating that happens more and more regularly now are the games governing bodies. It took me days to stop shaking with disbelief, but I found the strength to steady my hand for long enough to type this response
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Ulloa
Sept 15, 2014 16:10:23 GMT
Post by tuum on Sept 15, 2014 16:10:23 GMT
How the hell are you supposed to defend without contact? It's a contact sport. Come on mate, you're better than that. I'm not talking about tackling, I'm talking about when a defender gets right up an opponent's arse where there's absolutely no danger and the opponent collapses in a heap. Players have to use their heads these days or they will concede free kicks and yellow cards. It's about common sense, contact sport or not... So you stand half a yard off your man to avoid contact. There are a lot of decent strikers in this league who could do a great deal with all that free space.
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Ulloa
Sept 15, 2014 16:17:18 GMT
Post by seanfromenderby on Sept 15, 2014 16:17:18 GMT
Peter Crouch is ur star striker n u r slagging off Ulloa n calling us a "shit side"?! Crouch should ave been sent off the lanky clumsy crap artist.
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Ulloa
Sept 15, 2014 16:21:56 GMT
Post by metalhead on Sept 15, 2014 16:21:56 GMT
Peter Crouch is ur star striker n u r slagging off Ulloa n calling us a "shit side"?! Crouch should ave been sent off the lanky clumsy crap artist. Is your nickname 'Sean from Derby' ? Sean from Derby? So you live in Derby and you support Leicester... Incredible.
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Ulloa
Sept 15, 2014 16:24:04 GMT
Post by seanfromenderby on Sept 15, 2014 16:24:04 GMT
Peter Crouch is ur star striker n u r slagging off Ulloa n calling us a "shit side"?! Crouch should ave been sent off the lanky clumsy crap artist. Is your nickname 'Sean from Derby' ? Sean from Derby? So you live in Derby and you support Leicester... Incredible. Learn 2 read u moron, it says Sean from ENDERBY. Enderby is a village near LEICESTER.
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Ulloa
Sept 15, 2014 16:25:59 GMT
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Post by Kjones9 on Sept 15, 2014 16:25:59 GMT
Peter Crouch is ur star striker n u r slagging off Ulloa n calling us a "shit side"?! Crouch should ave been sent off the lanky clumsy crap artist. I think we should take him off you, I'm sure the player has some ambition and wants to play in the premier league next season.
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Ulloa
Sept 15, 2014 16:27:43 GMT
Post by sheikhmomo on Sept 15, 2014 16:27:43 GMT
Is your nickname 'Sean from Derby' ? Sean from Derby? So you live in Derby and you support Leicester... Incredible. Enderby is a village near LEICESTER. Twinned with Royston Vasey if you're typical of the populous.
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Ulloa
Sept 15, 2014 16:27:42 GMT
Post by metalhead on Sept 15, 2014 16:27:42 GMT
Is your nickname 'Sean from Derby' ? Sean from Derby? So you live in Derby and you support Leicester... Incredible. Learn 2 read u moron, it says Sean from ENDERBY. Enderby is a village near LEICESTER. Aww, sorry mate. My knowledge of Leicestershire is about as good as your spelling and grammar. Still I can imagine what it's like. Boring place, boring and bitter, and full of people who are stuck in the 80s and still blame the fact they can't get a job on immigration despite the fact they go to job interviews wearing 'YOU FUCKING TWAT' on their t-shirt and have a baby with an Iron Maiden tattoo on it's forehead.
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Ulloa
Sept 15, 2014 16:38:48 GMT
Post by thehoof on Sept 15, 2014 16:38:48 GMT
I don't think Peter Crouch really stands up to his height though does he - quite often he is fouled, but equally often he goes down like he's been hit by a wrecking ball. In fact he actually deflected a goal bound effort off the line (from Moses) in the 47th minute because he was lying spragged out on the floor again. Ulloa, whatever his faults has got 3 goals, playing for (in a lot of poster's opinions on here) a shit side. How come on his own, he has scored one more than our super team then?
Some of our forwards have no idea where to position themselves - on at least 3 occassions SJW and PC hared towards the near post and the ball went to the back - were they both going to knock it in, or after 3 years playing together,could it be that they still have not perfected playing with each other?
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Ulloa
Sept 15, 2014 19:01:44 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2014 19:01:44 GMT
When we have one of our very own doing the same I think it's a good idea if we leave this one alone. People in glass houses and all that..... I think you're wrong in this particular aspect. Yes, Bojan dived as well in a vein attempt to win a penalty but he has been rightly criticised by us, the supporters, for doing that. The rest of our team will also make it clear to him that we don't do that sort of stuff at Stoke just like they did with Pieters last season. Ulloa was a cheat and has rightly been called for it. He spent more time on his arse than he did on his feet. Diving is simply wrong and Bojan needs to learn that quickly as well. He passed up the opportunity of an attempt on goal to dive and that isn't acceptable. How can I be wrong on this one when you have admitted that Bojan dived? I just think it's a bit rich slagging off Ulloa when one of our own players was up to it. I agree with you when you say diving is wrong and it's something I hate with a passion,and what Bojan did was indeed unacceptable and something that none of us want to see from Stoke players. Hopefully you are right and our other players/management will have a quiet word in Bojan's ear this week,then I'll join in with all the slagging off of opponents like I always have in the past.
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Ulloa
Sept 15, 2014 21:36:09 GMT
Post by rawli on Sept 15, 2014 21:36:09 GMT
Is your nickname 'Sean from Derby' ? Sean from Derby? So you live in Derby and you support Leicester... Incredible. Learn 2 read u moron, it says Sean from ENDERBY. Enderby is a village near LEICESTER. Is your surname Bell?
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Ulloa
Sept 15, 2014 22:28:10 GMT
Post by davejohnno1 on Sept 15, 2014 22:28:10 GMT
I think you're wrong in this particular aspect. Yes, Bojan dived as well in a vein attempt to win a penalty but he has been rightly criticised by us, the supporters, for doing that. The rest of our team will also make it clear to him that we don't do that sort of stuff at Stoke just like they did with Pieters last season. Ulloa was a cheat and has rightly been called for it. He spent more time on his arse than he did on his feet. Diving is simply wrong and Bojan needs to learn that quickly as well. He passed up the opportunity of an attempt on goal to dive and that isn't acceptable. How can I be wrong on this one when you have admitted that Bojan dived? I just think it's a bit rich slagging off Ulloa when one of our own players was up to it. I agree with you when you say diving is wrong and it's something I hate with a passion,and what Bojan did was indeed unacceptable and something that none of us want to see from Stoke players. Hopefully you are right and our other players/management will have a quiet word in Bojan's ear this week,then I'll join in with all the slagging off of opponents like I always have in the past. You are wrong because you are perfectly entitled to criticise Ulloa for being a fanny if you are prepared to apply the same rules to our own players, in this case, Bojan. I'm more than prepared to do that. I let my little lad get Bojan on the back of his home shirt and on the back of his ridiculous dive alone, I'm wishing I hadn't. Hopefully, like Pieters last season, he will quickly learn that such behaviour isn't acceptable in Stoke colours. Simulation/diving/cheating is the one thing I absolutely detest about the Premier League. I see a bit of Chesterfield and the lower leagues simply don't suffer with this particular blight on the game. The game, in the lower leagues, is a much more honest game than we see every week and to be honest, in some respects, it is more enjoyable as a result.
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Ulloa
Sept 15, 2014 22:51:23 GMT
Post by boskampsflaps on Sept 15, 2014 22:51:23 GMT
Is your nickname 'Sean from Derby' ? Sean from Derby? So you live in Derby and you support Leicester... Incredible. Learn 2 read u moron, it says Sean from ENDERBY. Enderby is a village near LEICESTER. Maybe you should take a few more english lessons and learn to put together a coherent sentence.
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Ulloa
Sept 16, 2014 9:08:58 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2014 9:08:58 GMT
How can I be wrong on this one when you have admitted that Bojan dived? I just think it's a bit rich slagging off Ulloa when one of our own players was up to it. I agree with you when you say diving is wrong and it's something I hate with a passion,and what Bojan did was indeed unacceptable and something that none of us want to see from Stoke players. Hopefully you are right and our other players/management will have a quiet word in Bojan's ear this week,then I'll join in with all the slagging off of opponents like I always have in the past. You are wrong because you are perfectly entitled to criticise Ulloa for being a fanny if you are prepared to apply the same rules to our own players, in this case, Bojan. I'm more than prepared to do that. I let my little lad get Bojan on the back of his home shirt and on the back of his ridiculous dive alone, I'm wishing I hadn't. Hopefully, like Pieters last season, he will quickly learn that such behaviour isn't acceptable in Stoke colours. Simulation/diving/cheating is the one thing I absolutely detest about the Premier League. I see a bit of Chesterfield and the lower leagues simply don't suffer with this particular blight on the game. The game, in the lower leagues, is a much more honest game than we see every week and to be honest, in some respects, it is more enjoyable as a result. Fair enough,point taken. It seems we are pretty much in agreement on the old diving subject mate.
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