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Post by andylgr on Sept 13, 2014 21:02:51 GMT
I thought cambiasso looked class when he came on. Personally I would have liked to have seen us counter that with Adam coming on for us maybe for whelan then got him to drive forward.
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Post by scfcbiancorossi on Sept 13, 2014 21:11:04 GMT
Said this myself after the game. Yes we had chances but it was their changes at half-time that won them the game. Pearson was pro-active, Hughes was re-active, should of changed things well before they scored. What absolute rubbish. How anyone can put today down to Hughes is beyond me - *of course* Pearson changed it, they were getting completely dominated, which is exactly the reason Hughes rightly didn't fix something that wasn't broke. This calling for early subs just seems like something people think they should say. We were dominating and creating chances, there was no need to change anything until they unexpectedly scored, and even then it wasn't critical. Fucking hell chap what planet are you on? We've just gone and lost at home to Leicester while barely creating 1 clear cut chance in 95 minutes of football and you're making out like everything was great They ultimately had the better chances and could easily have been 2 or 3 up in the second half. The amount of attempts is irrelevant if they are from 25 yards out. How many top drawer saves did their keeper have to make? Think about it.
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Post by scfcbiancorossi on Sept 13, 2014 21:13:25 GMT
I thought cambiasso looked class when he came on. Personally I would have liked to have seen us counter that with Adam coming on for us maybe for whelan then got him to drive forward. Yeah Cambiasso was the only midfielder on the park today who resembled anything close to a quality footballer. He was excellent and somewhat fascinating to watch.
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Post by chiefdelilah on Sept 13, 2014 21:14:23 GMT
I thought Drinkwater was just as good. Did his job brilliantly.
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Post by Kjones9 on Sept 13, 2014 21:26:45 GMT
What absolute rubbish. How anyone can put today down to Hughes is beyond me - *of course* Pearson changed it, they were getting completely dominated, which is exactly the reason Hughes rightly didn't fix something that wasn't broke. This calling for early subs just seems like something people think they should say. We were dominating and creating chances, there was no need to change anything until they unexpectedly scored, and even then it wasn't critical. They ultimately had the better chances and could easily have been 2 or 3 up in the second half. What were these 'chances'?
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Post by scfcbiancorossi on Sept 13, 2014 21:29:02 GMT
They ultimately had the better chances and could easily have been 2 or 3 up in the second half. What were these 'chances'? I'd suggest re-watching the last half hour on football first tonight.
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Post by Kjones9 on Sept 13, 2014 21:30:44 GMT
What were these 'chances'? I'd suggest re-watching the last half hour on football first tonight. Why? I was watching at the time.
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Post by scfcbiancorossi on Sept 13, 2014 21:33:59 GMT
I'd suggest re-watching the last half hour on football first tonight. Why? I was watching at the time. You were clearly away with the fairies then given they absolutely controlled almost the entirety of the second half. They caught us on the counter attack about 5 times in 20 minutes creating 2 excellent chances as well as a long range effort that was inches wide.
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Post by Kjones9 on Sept 13, 2014 21:36:55 GMT
Why? I was watching at the time. You were clearly away with the fairies then given they absolutely controlled almost the entirety of the second half. They caught us on the counter attack about 5 times in 20 minutes creating 2 excellent chances as well as a long range effort that was inches wide. Ahh so these 'chances' resulted in bego not having to make a save? They had 1, yes 1, shot on target.
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Post by sufolkstokie on Sept 13, 2014 22:26:13 GMT
Hughes got it wrong today Leicester were always going to come and set up like Villa. Should not start with Walters at home Our set pieces are woeful. The only plan is to hit and hope. No movement Subs were way too late and wrong Games was crying out for Adam. Arnie needed to come in, not a half fit Assaidi Very predictable Hughes was going to bring Arnie and Assaidi on but Pieters injury stopped him.Ossie was good when he came on and Arnie has been poor in the two games he has played,so i think he got that right.Agree about Adam,he needs to be started at home. 1 nil down - should have gone for it and gone 3 at the back
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Post by chiswickpotter on Sept 13, 2014 22:30:01 GMT
How it was possible to avoid scoring from all the chances we created today wasn't down to Pearson's tactics I can tell! At half time he changed their shape and it forced us to play long compared tot eh first half when we had been able to pass through midfield reasonably well. Yes they let us have chances but it was reasonably comfortable for their defence, we had very few good efforts on target in the second half which was due to their changes. Hughes today waited too long to change it, Walters wasn't a threat second half and we needed to attack on both flanks much sooner. The thread statement is correct for today
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Post by chiswickpotter on Sept 13, 2014 22:30:54 GMT
I don't agree. We missed two absolute sitters. One where Moses hits it straight at the keeper and another where Walters decides to try and take a touch instead of hitting it. On top of that we've had countless half-chances and the ref denied one clear penalty and another half shout. Play that game 10 times and we'd win 9. thats' the point half chances and scraps, their tactics second half lept us at bay in the main
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Post by PotterLog on Sept 14, 2014 0:04:15 GMT
Why? I was watching at the time. You were clearly away with the fairies then given they absolutely controlled almost the entirety of the second half. They caught us on the counter attack about 5 times in 20 minutes creating 2 excellent chances as well as a long range effort that was inches wide. Fucking hell they absolutely controlled the second half and could have won 3-0?? And I'm the one on a different planet? I'd probably concede that we were a bit toothless in the final third but we dominated the entire game. A combination of a poor final ball/finishing, some good body-on-the-line defending and outright spawniness saved Leicester. I'd say you'd end up losing one in twenty games with a pattern of play like today's. It was nothing like Villa for example, where their gameplan was there for all to see and the writing was on the wall all game. Still, footy and opinions eh. EDIT: just noticed these quotes from Leicester's board in dutchstokie 's post, thought them relevant here...: "We won't get a jammier 3 points than that all season. Couldn't have complained if we'd lost by 2 goals." "After that first half we could of had a real pounding" "No idea in the world how we won that, but unreal." "Proper smash and grab that was! Brilliant defending from our lads. Massive 3 points" "Great result today though, although the better side over 90 minutes lost.... to be fair."
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Post by robwahlmann on Sept 14, 2014 9:36:37 GMT
How it was possible to avoid scoring from all the chances we created today wasn't down to Pearson's tactics I can tell! At half time he changed their shape and it forced us to play long compared tot eh first half when we had been able to pass through midfield reasonably well. Yes they let us have chances but it was reasonably comfortable for their defence, we had very few good efforts on target in the second half which was due to their changes. Hughes today waited too long to change it, Walters wasn't a threat second half and we needed to attack on both flanks much sooner. The thread statement is correct for today I really think Leicester rode their luck today to be honest! We had enough chances to win the game in the second half as well, and with all the set pieces we created it's almost unbelievable we weren't able to score! To turn it around I'm almost sure most teams would have scored a couple if they created all those chances and set pieces against us! We have now only conceded 3 goals after 4 games which is good, but only scored 2 which is really awful but no surprise! We didn't look like scoring a lot in the summer friendlies either, but this needs to change soon!
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Post by chiefdelilah on Sept 14, 2014 9:39:25 GMT
You were clearly away with the fairies then given they absolutely controlled almost the entirety of the second half. They caught us on the counter attack about 5 times in 20 minutes creating 2 excellent chances as well as a long range effort that was inches wide. Fucking hell they absolutely controlled the second half and could have won 3-0?? And I'm the one on a different planet? I'd probably concede that we were a bit toothless in the final third but we dominated the entire game. A combination of a poor final ball/finishing, some good body-on-the-line defending and outright spawniness saved Leicester. I'd say you'd end up losing one in twenty games with a pattern of play like today's. It was nothing like Villa for example, where their gameplan was there for all to see and the writing was on the wall all game. Still, footy and opinions eh. EDIT: just noticed these quotes from Leicester's board in dutchstokie 's post, thought them relevant here...: "We won't get a jammier 3 points than that all season. Couldn't have complained if we'd lost by 2 goals." "After that first half we could of had a real pounding" "No idea in the world how we won that, but unreal." "Proper smash and grab that was! Brilliant defending from our lads. Massive 3 points" "Great result today though, although the better side over 90 minutes lost.... to be fair." Do you not think their half time changes had any impact on the game at all PL? Or that a bit of creativity should have been injected long before the 71st minute?
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Post by PotterLog on Sept 14, 2014 12:44:06 GMT
Fucking hell they absolutely controlled the second half and could have won 3-0?? And I'm the one on a different planet? I'd probably concede that we were a bit toothless in the final third but we dominated the entire game. A combination of a poor final ball/finishing, some good body-on-the-line defending and outright spawniness saved Leicester. I'd say you'd end up losing one in twenty games with a pattern of play like today's. It was nothing like Villa for example, where their gameplan was there for all to see and the writing was on the wall all game. Still, footy and opinions eh. EDIT: just noticed these quotes from Leicester's board in dutchstokie 's post, thought them relevant here...: "We won't get a jammier 3 points than that all season. Couldn't have complained if we'd lost by 2 goals." "After that first half we could of had a real pounding" "No idea in the world how we won that, but unreal." "Proper smash and grab that was! Brilliant defending from our lads. Massive 3 points" "Great result today though, although the better side over 90 minutes lost.... to be fair." Do you not think their half time changes had any impact on the game at all PL? Or that a bit of creativity should have been injected long before the 71st minute? I think they had a slightly better 2nd half, and they were always going to improve a bit after the break. And yes, we waited a bit too long for the first sub, I just disagree that Hughes made an obvious mistake by not changing it before they scored.
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Post by chiefdelilah on Sept 14, 2014 12:50:21 GMT
Do you not think their half time changes had any impact on the game at all PL? Or that a bit of creativity should have been injected long before the 71st minute? I think they had a slightly better 2nd half, and they were always going to improve a bit after the break. And yes, we waited a bit too long for the first sub, I just disagree that Hughes made an obvious mistake by not changing it before they scored. I thought the obvious mistake was waiting til it had gone 70 minutes when our influence was lessening. I don't agree they were always going to improve. Nothing like that is a given. Fulham didn't. Newcastle didn't at Southampton. They improved because Pearson took decisive steps to ensure they did. We were unbalanced even before their changes.
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Post by Olgrligm on Sept 14, 2014 13:56:04 GMT
Pearson made changes at half time and put more men into the middle of the pitch, which helped them to overwhelm us for a good bit of the second half. He made good, sensible changes.
I'm not about to stick the boot into Hughes over it though.
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Post by AlbertTatlock on Sept 14, 2014 14:06:50 GMT
Pearson saw the weakness down our right and exploited it, Walters was often coming inside and leaving Bardsley on his own who in turn was trying to get forward and leaving the right side completely exposed, every threat Leicester had in the second half came from their left. We were naive and paid the price again. Gouranga.
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Post by JoeinOz on Sept 14, 2014 15:25:21 GMT
Cambiasso made a big difference imho. He was a calming influence on his colleagues
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Post by Pugsley on Sept 14, 2014 15:36:16 GMT
Pretty simple - keep picking Jon Walters and you'll drop points.
Is Marko in the naughty corner?
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Post by foxysgloves on Sept 14, 2014 15:54:56 GMT
Pretty simple - keep picking Jon Walters and you'll drop points. Is Marko in the naughty corner? What, like the three points we dropped at Citeh? Behave.
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Post by stokemark on Sept 14, 2014 16:09:22 GMT
Pretty simple - keep picking Jon Walters and you'll drop points. Is Marko in the naughty corner? What, like the three points we dropped at Citeh? Behave. Walters at home instead of Arnie against Leicester is a very different scenario than him playing for 45 minutes away at Man City
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Post by Pugsley on Sept 14, 2014 16:12:08 GMT
Pretty simple - keep picking Jon Walters and you'll drop points. Is Marko in the naughty corner? What, like the three points we dropped at Citeh? Behave. When you're up against 3 parked buses you need a spark of creativity, not someone chasing a balloon.
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