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Post by Deleted on Sept 10, 2014 12:38:46 GMT
No disrepect intended but you have an average Championship squad with a few aditions that hold no fear for me and as for "pace" you have do you think we have none because if you do you're clearly uninformed. The majority of their players may be those that played in the championship but to describe a team that really were head and shoulders above the others last season as "average" cannot be right. No game is easy and our track record against similar opposition isn't watertight. Tough game - good test for both teams actually. If we play to our potential we should win but it's foolish to dismiss Leicester's chances. Please forgive me for not shitting myself over a side that we beat easily not so long ago
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Post by Deleted on Sept 10, 2014 12:43:27 GMT
No disrepect intended but you have an average Championship squad with a few aditions that hold no fear for me and as for "pace" you have do you think we have none because if you do you're clearly uninformed. With all due respect, I think I've watched a lot more of Stoke play than you will have seen of Leicester. "Average Championship squad" is a bit misleading; no team has ever earned this many points in the championship and gone straight back down next season. Some of our team I'd say are not really premiership standard (Nugent, Schlupp, Konchesky and possibly De Laet), however some of our players are fantastic. However, I doubt you'd actually know this, because they're not "big names" - most people have no idea how good Drinkwater, James, Mahrez, Vardy or Moore are, because they're either foreign, or young and haven't been around for long. They just look at the team list and think "lol their best player is Nugent" - when that couldn't be further from the truth. I also never said you don't have pace, I'm well aware of your players. However, I would put money on us being one of the fastest teams in the league. We may lack quality in certain departments, but I'd put money on us being one of the fastest teams in the league, as Arsenal found out when De Laet left Sanchez for dead last week. Pace alone might not win us this game, but it's always going to be a threat if you're going to come at us in numbers. I've said before, a point would be a good result for us - the Britannia is always a tough place to go, and like us, your team are on a high right now. However, I think it's going to be a tight game. Like I said average team that got beat easily last time and will again this time. Sorry to piss on your chips but a draw against Arse does not make you a good team fella as you will find out over the season. Enjoy your relegation season
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Post by friendlyfox on Sept 10, 2014 12:52:34 GMT
Like I said average team that got beat easily last time and will again this time. Sorry to piss on your chips but a draw against Arse does not make you a good team fella as you will find out over the season. Enjoy your relegation season Congratulations; you beat a team missing 5 of our best players, in a season where our only focus was promotion. The fact that we started Schlupp as a striker and left out our captain shows how seriously we took that game. I don't think you really know anything about our side. I'm sure you'll get a nice surprise.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 10, 2014 12:57:07 GMT
Like I said average team that got beat easily last time and will again this time. Sorry to piss on your chips but a draw against Arse does not make you a good team fella as you will find out over the season. Enjoy your relegation season Congratulations; you beat a team missing 5 of our best players, in a season where our only focus was promotion. The fact that we started Schlupp as a striker and left out our captain shows how seriously we took that game. I don't think you really know anything about our side. I'm sure you'll get a nice surprise. yep in how easily we win with your "best" players. Look on the bright side you will get parachute payments for a few years
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Post by Paul Spencer on Sept 10, 2014 13:08:38 GMT
Very surprised how many people are going with just one up top ...
When Hughes decided to come out for the second half against Citeh playing 4-4-2, it was a defining moment in the game.
Crouch has always been more effective in his career when he's been played as one of a '2' and the man himself said that he thought his performance at the Ethiad was his best in a Stoke shirt.
The onus is going to be very much on us to break Leicester down ... we could do with Charlie knocking it long from deep at times to try and unlock (what will be) a very congested midfield.
Arnie hasn't been on form at all whereas Charlie has looked pretty effective when he's been coming on late this season.
I wouldn't go with 4-4-2 again but I'd certainly stick to 2 up front and play a 4-3-1-2 formation, with Moses playing the 'Sterling' role, with license to roam and able turn up on either wing at will.
Effectively you'd be swapping Arnie for Charlie.
Either Bojan or Diouf would partner Crouch depending on Diouf's fitness.
Begovic Bardsely Shawcross Wilson Pieters Whelan N'Zonzi Adam Moses Crouch Diouf/Bojan
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Post by Deleted on Sept 10, 2014 13:20:31 GMT
Very surprised how many people are going with just one up top ...
When Hughes decided to come out for the second half against Citeh playing 4-4-2, it was a defining moment in the game.
Crouch has always been more effective in his career when he's been played as one of a '2' and the man himself said that he thought his performance at the Ethiad was his best in a Stoke shirt.
The onus is going to be very much on us to break Leicester down ... we could do with Charlie knocking it long from deep at times to try and unlock (what will be) a very congested midfield.
Arnie hasn't been on form at all whereas Charlie has looked pretty effective when he's been coming on late this season.
I wouldn't go with 4-4-2 again but I'd certainly stick to 2 up front and play a 4-3-1-2 formation, with Moses playing the 'Sterling' role, with license to roam and able turn up on either wing at will.
Effectively you'd be swapping Arnie for Charlie.
Either Bojan or Diouf would partner Crouch depending on Diouf's fitness.
Begovic Bardsely Shawcross Wilson Pieters Whelan N'Zonzi Adam Moses Crouch Diouf/Bojan
I'll go with that , I can see Diouf playing tbh.
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Post by YounginStoke on Sept 10, 2014 13:28:16 GMT
Very surprised how many people are going with just one up top ...
When Hughes decided to come out for the second half against Citeh playing 4-4-2, it was a defining moment in the game.
Crouch has always been more effective in his career when he's been played as one of a '2' and the man himself said that he thought his performance at the Ethiad was his best in a Stoke shirt.
The onus is going to be very much on us to break Leicester down ... we could do with Charlie knocking it long from deep at times to try and unlock (what will be) a very congested midfield.
Arnie hasn't been on form at all whereas Charlie has looked pretty effective when he's been coming on late this season.
I wouldn't go with 4-4-2 again but I'd certainly stick to 2 up front and play a 4-3-1-2 formation, with Moses playing the 'Sterling' role, with license to roam and able turn up on either wing at will.
Effectively you'd be swapping Arnie for Charlie.
Either Bojan or Diouf would partner Crouch depending on Diouf's fitness.
Begovic Bardsely Shawcross Wilson Pieters Whelan N'Zonzi Adam Moses Crouch Diouf/Bojan
I'd pretty much agree with that and I think that Moses in the hole could be a masterstroke, I know where your coming from when you say you'd start Adam because we do need to break them down which we couldn't do against Villa, but he'd still have to put in a shift in that 3 man midfield for it to work, if Adam goes missing defensively then we'll struggle because we're back to a two man midfield. I'd be more tempted to put Sidwell in there tell him to be the attacking threat if you like from the midfield, but you could trust him to track back and retain control of the game.
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Post by StokieAsh13 on Sept 10, 2014 13:32:09 GMT
Very surprised how many people are going with just one up top ...
When Hughes decided to come out for the second half against Citeh playing 4-4-2, it was a defining moment in the game.
Crouch has always been more effective in his career when he's been played as one of a '2' and the man himself said that he thought his performance at the Ethiad was his best in a Stoke shirt.
The onus is going to be very much on us to break Leicester down ... we could do with Charlie knocking it long from deep at times to try and unlock (what will be) a very congested midfield.
Arnie hasn't been on form at all whereas Charlie has looked pretty effective when he's been coming on late this season.
I wouldn't go with 4-4-2 again but I'd certainly stick to 2 up front and play a 4-3-1-2 formation, with Moses playing the 'Sterling' role, with license to roam and able turn up on either wing at will.
Effectively you'd be swapping Arnie for Charlie.
Either Bojan or Diouf would partner Crouch depending on Diouf's fitness.
Begovic Bardsely Shawcross Wilson Pieters Whelan N'Zonzi Adam Moses Crouch Diouf/Bojan
Arnie had a very solid game against Sweden. Played some magical stuff at times although he did miss a sitter. Id start him.
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Post by thedeadlyshart on Sept 10, 2014 19:14:01 GMT
What I think Hughes will go with:
Bego Bardsley Shawcross Wilson pieters Whelan Nzonzi Moses walters Arnie Crouch
Bench: butland, Huth, muniesa, sidwell, bojan, Adam, Assaidi
I've left diouf out because I assume he will be too tired to feature.
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Post by Jamo on the wing on Sept 10, 2014 19:35:03 GMT
Be tough for three reasons:
Games after the international break are often weird.
They are still on a high.
Danger of it being "after The Lord Mayor's show" following the Man City win.
That said I back our players and I'm hopeful of a win.
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Post by fca47 on Sept 10, 2014 19:46:11 GMT
There was pretty much this reaction before the Villa game, no game is easy and if we are not on our game, it could well go the same way, there is very little to choose between teams outside the top six. Just because there are some knobs on their board it doesn't mean we have to be as unrealistic as the minority on there.
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Post by reddipotter on Sept 10, 2014 19:47:12 GMT
Very surprised how many people are going with just one up top ...
When Hughes decided to come out for the second half against Citeh playing 4-4-2, it was a defining moment in the game.
Crouch has always been more effective in his career when he's been played as one of a '2' and the man himself said that he thought his performance at the Ethiad was his best in a Stoke shirt.
The onus is going to be very much on us to break Leicester down ... we could do with Charlie knocking it long from deep at times to try and unlock (what will be) a very congested midfield.
Arnie hasn't been on form at all whereas Charlie has looked pretty effective when he's been coming on late this season.
I wouldn't go with 4-4-2 again but I'd certainly stick to 2 up front and play a 4-3-1-2 formation, with Moses playing the 'Sterling' role, with license to roam and able turn up on either wing at will.
Effectively you'd be swapping Arnie for Charlie.
Either Bojan or Diouf would partner Crouch depending on Diouf's fitness.
Begovic Bardsely Shawcross Wilson Pieters Whelan N'Zonzi Adam Moses Crouch Diouf/Bojan
There's no real width there.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 10, 2014 19:51:51 GMT
From my perspective it'll be interesting. If we score early, they will have to open up a bit and we do have god quality in crucial areas of the pitch. Would like to see Arnie, Bojan & Moses in that hole, and possibly crouch to move the ball and get behind their back line. They are a well drilled and confident bunch. I think it will be hard, but if we score early, I see only one winner. 2-0 Stoke Bego Bardslet - Shawcross - Wilson - Pieters Nzonzi - Whelan Arnie - Bojan - Moses Crouch I'd be happy enough with that. Walters should be in contention though.
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Post by JoeinOz on Sept 10, 2014 19:58:14 GMT
unsoiled sheet
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Post by Deleted on Sept 10, 2014 20:00:01 GMT
I'm excited for this. Got a feeling it's going to be gung-ho, and we'll nick it in a high scoring game.
1-0
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Post by turtlefox on Sept 10, 2014 20:09:31 GMT
Do we ever play three at the back but I think it could work for this game. Begovic Bardsley Shawcross Pieters Whelan Muniesa Nzonzi Moses Arnie Bojan Crouch/ diouf
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Post by enuntio on Sept 10, 2014 20:09:39 GMT
Begovic Bardsley Shawcross Huth Muniesa Whelan Adam Moses Bojan Arnautovic Crouch Id like to see this as a horses4courses approach. Notice I drop Nzonzi because we dont need his workrate to dominate midfield. Prefer to have Adam there to create for the players in front of him. Also a chance to bring Muniesa into the team as he is better attacking than Pieters This looks like a good starting eleven
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Post by Paul Spencer on Sept 10, 2014 21:55:57 GMT
Very surprised how many people are going with just one up top ...
When Hughes decided to come out for the second half against Citeh playing 4-4-2, it was a defining moment in the game.
Crouch has always been more effective in his career when he's been played as one of a '2' and the man himself said that he thought his performance at the Ethiad was his best in a Stoke shirt.
The onus is going to be very much on us to break Leicester down ... we could do with Charlie knocking it long from deep at times to try and unlock (what will be) a very congested midfield.
Arnie hasn't been on form at all whereas Charlie has looked pretty effective when he's been coming on late this season.
I wouldn't go with 4-4-2 again but I'd certainly stick to 2 up front and play a 4-3-1-2 formation, with Moses playing the 'Sterling' role, with license to roam and able turn up on either wing at will.
Effectively you'd be swapping Arnie for Charlie.
Either Bojan or Diouf would partner Crouch depending on Diouf's fitness.
Begovic Bardsely Shawcross Wilson Pieters Whelan N'Zonzi Adam Moses Crouch Diouf/Bojan
There's no real width there. That's like saying that Liverpool don't play with any width mate.
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Post by ohdelilah on Sept 10, 2014 22:12:33 GMT
What are people's thoughts on Huth returning? Only a matter of time or Wilsons place to lose?
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Post by Birchesheadpotter on Sept 10, 2014 22:12:59 GMT
Begovic
Bardsley . Shawcross . Wilson/Huth . Pieters
Moses . Whelan . N'Zonzi . Arnautovic
Bojan/Diouf . Crouch
You know, I hope we dick this bunch of tool bags. Can't stand their attitude or Gary Lineker. Cunts.
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Post by SCFC92 on Sept 11, 2014 0:01:55 GMT
The way they don't sit deep and will give it a go rather than what most teams seem to be doing when they're at the Brit these days I can see us smashing them on the counter.. Get a goal early and they could open up nicely, 3-1 Bojan to score his 1st goal for us as well
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Post by kurt on Sept 11, 2014 6:08:02 GMT
Is Ireland injured?
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Sept 11, 2014 6:31:11 GMT
As I expected, Stoke are uncertain as to whether Diouf will be fit to start on Saturday after his 12,000 mile round trip. He gets back at mid day tomorrow - with luck! link
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Sept 11, 2014 6:32:08 GMT
He's had a rib injury and only just started training this week. Probably won't be risked this weekend.
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Post by kurt on Sept 11, 2014 6:36:58 GMT
He's had a rib injury and only just started training this week. Probably won't be risked this weekend. THX
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Post by rogerjonesisgod on Sept 11, 2014 6:48:28 GMT
i'd go with Crouch up top, I think Leicester will come and set up to defend so it would be nice to see Stoke mix it up a bit and don't be afraid to go long, as we saw against Hull & Villa we aren't too great at breaking down defensive set ups We'll probably be slightly more defensive than we are at home, but we don't usually park the bus. We always play 4-4-2, with Nugent dropping slightly deeper. Pearson almost never changes a successful team, so it's quite likely that it will be a similar team to the one that played Arsenal. We're a team full of confidence at the moment, so it wont be easy for you. Mahrez and Ulloa will be the biggest threats for you. We're also a side that has pace to burn (Schlupp, De laet, Mahrez and Vardy if he plays are all rapid), so you may get hit on the counter a lot, if you come at us. However, finishing isn't our strong point. gfycat.com/UnlinedDamagedBlackcrappieI think that's a fair assessment. You ripped up the Championship last season and Pearson hasn't put together a squad of midfield blockers and hoofing defenders. Knocking two past Everton, drawing with Arsenal and not getting totally battered by Chelsea (no mean feat nowadays) is a decent start for one of the new boys. If your full backs are the weak link then you could be in trouble. Arnie has a point to prove as does Assaidi, both can be tricky. Moses will terrorise you. Even Walters will run them into the ground. With Crouch the target/hold up man for Diouf or Bojan there'll be plenty of action on the edge of your box. Stoke win.
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Sept 11, 2014 6:54:01 GMT
We'll probably be slightly more defensive than we are at home, but we don't usually park the bus. We always play 4-4-2, with Nugent dropping slightly deeper. Pearson almost never changes a successful team, so it's quite likely that it will be a similar team to the one that played Arsenal. We're a team full of confidence at the moment, so it wont be easy for you. Mahrez and Ulloa will be the biggest threats for you. We're also a side that has pace to burn (Schlupp, De laet, Mahrez and Vardy if he plays are all rapid), so you may get hit on the counter a lot, if you come at us. However, finishing isn't our strong point. gfycat.com/UnlinedDamagedBlackcrappieI think that's a fair assessment. You ripped up the Championship last season and Pearson hasn't put together a squad of midfield blockers and hoofing defenders. Knocking two past Everton, drawing with Arsenal and not getting totally battered by Chelsea (no mean feat nowadays) is a decent start for one of the new boys. If your full backs are the weak link then you could be in trouble. Arnie has a point to prove as does Assaidi, both can be tricky. Moses will terrorise you. Even Walters will run them into the ground. With Crouch the target/hold up man for Diouf or Bojan there'll be plenty of action on the edge of your box. Stoke win. Yes, a decent assessment - works for me. I do think it will be closer than many on here think - Leicester are a decent side - better than we were in our first season in the Prem, I think. I think the key to any side surviving their first season in the Prem is a great team spirit. Credit to TP that we had it in spades and if Leicester have it they should do ok. It is interesting that they, like us, look as if they could be at their best against the better Prem teams. But, a narrow win for Stoke on Saturday, I think.
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Post by stonefox on Sept 11, 2014 7:47:55 GMT
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA have Stoke ever beat anyone by three goals???
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Post by stonefox on Sept 11, 2014 7:50:43 GMT
No disrepect intended but you have an average Championship squad with a few aditions that hold no fear for me and as for "pace" you have do you think we have none because if you do you're clearly uninformed. Average championship squad??? LOL. You my friend will be quite surprised come 5pm saturday.
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Post by stonefox on Sept 11, 2014 8:04:11 GMT
Hi all. Leicester fan in peace here. Really looking forward to Saturday!! Iv got the feeling that alot of you are under estimating Leicester and hope Hughes does the same. That would really play into our hands. Iv seen alot of Stoke games over the last few years as live local and i think that Shawcross and Wilson are your weak link. I know in the past that that has been your base for success but since Huth has been out i feel this is the area where we can really hurt you. Shawcross doesnt quite seem the same player as when he was alongside Huth 2years ago, hence why Roy has prefered players like Smalling/Stones etc for England. Whether it be Ulloa bullying him or Vardys pace i feel we need to exploite this to be sucessfull. Our weakness is definately our fullbacks. Im not too fussed about 'Arnie' because i feel he is very overrated and only seems interested half the time. however i feel that presuming Moses plays he will need to be closely watched. dont think 'we beat them easily in the FA cup earlier in the year' because that was not our strongest team at all. Our captain and other centre half were out, aswell as nugent being on the bench. we werent interested in that game we were focusing on the league and it fully paid off. i think we are in for an end to end game, a very closer encounter, and only a goal or two in it. I wish you luck for the season and hope you enjoy watching us play saturday!!
PREDICTION STOKE 0-2 LEICESTER ( shawcross og, ulloa).
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