Getting rid of the dead wood

[stokie1130]

I think we all need to tip our hats to the recruitment team after this window, we got our business done nice and early, wich is such a refreshing change, and hardly speant aything, we brought in quality on frees and did it before all the panic buys came around.

Getting rid of the TP panic buy legacy proved to be a tall order and I do not think this was down to lack of effort from the team, more the case of very poor or average players on silly money, not willing to take a pay cut (and why would they) and also the fact of no one wanting them. Looks like we are going to have to let them wind down their contracts, wich is part of the bad side of TP and the early transfer panic buys.

Now I think once this happens how exciting our recruitment team will really be, we have seen what they can a acive with limted funds, think of what they will be able to do when they have funds and wages freed up once the crap has gone, I for one am very excited.

Question is how much longer does the dead wood have left on their contracts? ??

[geoffscott]

Sept 2, 2014 8:17:19 GMT stokie1130 said:

I think we all need to tip our hats to the recruitment team after this window, we got our business done nice and early, wich is such a refreshing change, and hardly speant aything, we brought in quality on frees and did it before all the panic buys came around.

Getting rid of the TP panic buy legacy proved to be a tall order and I do not think this was down to lack of effort from the team, more the case of very poor or average players on silly money, not willing to take a pay cut (and why would they) and also the fact of no one wanting them. Looks like we are going to have to let them wind down their contracts, wich is part of the bad side of TP and the early transfer panic buys.

Now I think once this happens how exciting our recruitment team will really be, we have seen what they can a acive with limted funds, think of what they will be able to do when they have funds and wages freed up once the crap has gone, I for one am very excited.

Question is how much longer does the dead wood have left on their contracts? ??

Deadwood?

Hate the term deadwood, it is so outdated when it comes to Stoke City today, but I'll bite.

Surely you can only be talking about Wilson Palacios?

[rawli]

Which early transfer buys were these? There can't be anyone who was panic bought from the early days left. The ones remaining are all from the era when Tony was being ultra careful with 'the family's' money and only searching for the right DNA.

[Davef]

As far as I can see, the only true "deadwood" on the books right now is Palacios, Shea and Ness. Everyone else is capable of contributing.

The club will be disappointed that we haven't got Palacios off the wage bill, but all in all we haven't done too badly.

[Done it for scfcbuxton]

Palacios has 12 months left I believe, as does Crouch who's not exactly deadwood but on big money and maybe moved on or be offered lowered terms at the end of the season.

Shea, Ness, Edu(?) were all on 4 year deals I believe so its a case of remembering just when exactly they came.

[bolly_premprem]

I am happy with the window with the exception of assaidi.

Look at the picture on the website, he clearly isn't happy being sent back here, I think he showed his intention with the wage demands he had.

Hopefully he will try harder to get a deal where he wants to be until the january window

[Deleted]

He obviously wasn't in Liverpool's plans, and no one else seemed to want him. He should consider himself very lucky to come to us. We got behind him last season, and I sincerely believe that we can turn him into an even better player.

[stokester1989]

Palacios - cost us a lot of money, also costs us in wages but cant stay fit. hes been a massive let down but no body is going take his wage demands. Once his contract is expired I would be surprised to see another Premiership team come in for him.

Brek Shea - A Big hype about him when he came here but failed to impress. I didn't actually get see too much of him to make an opinion of him but he's taking a wage from us for nothing so id rather him gone.

Shotton - Wont see much of him no more, he is a Championship player in my opinion and would thrive there with game time. maybe Derby wanna keep him

Sorrenson - Id class him as dead wood as he wont get a game for us, we will utilise Butland when we can. I love Sorro though his efforts helped keep us where we are.

Wilko - My opinion Wilko is a Championship player and wont get a look at under Hughes, because he is so passionate about stoke and served over ten years for us fans wont want to see him leave us.

Edu - On Loan in the MLS, a waste of a sighning only played one game for us. I believe he was either Free or very cheap but he still takes a wage.

Jamie Ness - we had him as a Free from rangers, but hes only played 1 cup game and now on loan at Crewe after a spell at Leyton Orient even in league one hesw faield to make an impact. hes never going cut it in the premiership.

[Deleted]

Sept 2, 2014 8:58:55 GMT stokester1989 said:

Palacios - cost us a lot of money, also costs us in wages but cant stay fit. hes been a massive let down but no body is going take his wage demands. Once his contract is expired I would be surprised to see another Premiership team come in for him.

Brek Shea - A Big hype about him when he came here but failed to impress. I didn't actually get see too much of him to make an opinion of him but he's taking a wage from us for nothing so id rather him gone.

Shotton - Wont see much of him no more, he is a Championship player in my opinion and would thrive there with game time. maybe Derby wanna keep him

Sorrenson - Id class him as dead wood as he wont get a game for us, we will utilise Butland when we can. I love Sorro though his efforts helped keep us where we are.

Wilko - My opinion Wilko is a Championship player and wont get a look at under Hughes, because he is so passionate about stoke and served over ten years for us fans wont want to see him leave us.

Edu - On Loan in the MLS, a waste of a sighning only played one game for us. I believe he was either Free or very cheap but he still takes a wage.

Jamie Ness - we had him as a Free from rangers, but hes only played 1 cup game and now on loan at Crewe after a spell at Leyton Orient even in league one hesw faield to make an impact. hes never going cut it in the premiership.

and to think that we got Ness at the same time Everton got Naismith

wrong choice made there!

[metalhead]

For me, Palacios and Ness are the only genuine deadwood. There's no reason Shea couldn't contribute if given some decent game time. Every time I've played I've thought he has 'something', it's just unlocking it.

[block27row27]

Sept 2, 2014 8:58:55 GMT stokester1989 said:

Palacios - cost us a lot of money, also costs us in wages but cant stay fit. hes been a massive let down but no body is going take his wage demands. Once his contract is expired I would be surprised to see another Premiership team come in for him.

Brek Shea - A Big hype about him when he came here but failed to impress. I didn't actually get see too much of him to make an opinion of him but he's taking a wage from us for nothing so id rather him gone.

Shotton - Wont see much of him no more, he is a Championship player in my opinion and would thrive there with game time. maybe Derby wanna keep him

Sorrenson - Id class him as dead wood as he wont get a game for us, we will utilise Butland when we can. I love Sorro though his efforts helped keep us where we are.

Wilko - My opinion Wilko is a Championship player and wont get a look at under Hughes, because he is so passionate about stoke and served over ten years for us fans wont want to see him leave us.

Edu - On Loan in the MLS, a waste of a sighning only played one game for us. I believe he was either Free or very cheap but he still takes a wage.

Jamie Ness - we had him as a Free from rangers, but hes only played 1 cup game and now on loan at Crewe after a spell at Leyton Orient even in league one hesw faield to make an impact. hes never going cut it in the premiership.

Shotton has signed for Derby - 500k. It was only initially a loan so that he could play in the cup game the night after.

[jimmygscfc]

The Palacios that played against Villa away last season wouldn't be a terrible thing to have in reserve.

[metalhead]

Sept 2, 2014 9:09:25 GMT jimmygscfc said:

The Palacios that played against Villa away last season wouldn't be a terrible thing to have in reserve.

Agreed.

[salopstick]

Sept 2, 2014 8:17:19 GMT stokie1130 said:

I think we all need to tip our hats to the recruitment team after this window, we got our business done nice and early, wich is such a refreshing change, and hardly speant aything, we brought in quality on frees and did it before all the panic buys came around.

Getting rid of the TP panic buy legacy proved to be a tall order and I do not think this was down to lack of effort from the team, more the case of very poor or average players on silly money, not willing to take a pay cut (and why would they) and also the fact of no one wanting them. Looks like we are going to have to let them wind down their contracts, wich is part of the bad side of TP and the early transfer panic buys.

Now I think once this happens how exciting our recruitment team will really be, we have seen what they can a acive with limted funds, think of what they will be able to do when they have funds and wages freed up once the crap has gone, I for one am very excited.

Question is how much longer does the dead wood have left on their contracts? ??

some of our deadwood panic buys unfortunatley were needed and the only business we could do at the time and to be fair most of that recruitment has been moved on a couple of years ago, but yes the recruitment team have done reasonably well over the last 6 years.

both burnley and leicester have made decent additions without spending huge amounts of money.

im not concerned but i think hull have spent far too much this window

not happy with some of pulis additions but for what ever reason our whole acquisition policy since promotion has been one of gradual improvement, nothing too big too soon and a policy which helps us establish ourselves more without a risk of going bust

again qpr's policy leaves them in a bad financial mess if they get relegated.

[salopstick]

oh and sorro is definately not deadwood. every team need an old experienced number 2 or 3 keeper

chelsea have swarchzer (sp) who did a good job when called upon.

[malteser68]

Sept 2, 2014 8:58:55 GMT stokester1989 said:

Palacios - cost us a lot of money, also costs us in wages but cant stay fit. hes been a massive let down but no body is going take his wage demands. Once his contract is expired I would be surprised to see another Premiership team come in for him.

Brek Shea - A Big hype about him when he came here but failed to impress. I didn't actually get see too much of him to make an opinion of him but he's taking a wage from us for nothing so id rather him gone.

Shotton - Wont see much of him no more, he is a Championship player in my opinion and would thrive there with game time. maybe Derby wanna keep him

Sorrenson - Id class him as dead wood as he wont get a game for us, we will utilise Butland when we can. I love Sorro though his efforts helped keep us where we are.

Wilko - My opinion Wilko is a Championship player and wont get a look at under Hughes, because he is so passionate about stoke and served over ten years for us fans wont want to see him leave us.

Edu - On Loan in the MLS, a waste of a sighning only played one game for us. I believe he was either Free or very cheap but he still takes a wage.

Jamie Ness - we had him as a Free from rangers, but hes only played 1 cup game and now on loan at Crewe after a spell at Leyton Orient even in league one hesw faield to make an impact. hes never going cut it in the premiership.

complete compilation and fully in agreement with your assessment

[Deleted]

Sept 2, 2014 8:58:55 GMT stokester1989 said:

Palacios - Contract will run down. 

Brek Shea - Will go out on loan. Wouldn't surprise me if he saw out his contract then moved back to the MLS.

Shotton - Think he's technically signed a permanent deal, but they did it as a loan first so that he was available for their cup game the day after he signed.

Sorrenson - Butland will go out on loan. Sorro will be no.2. 

Wilko - Squad player. Won't feature much but can come in as back up if we are seriously short.

Edu - On Loan in the MLS, think they'll sign him on a permanent at the end of the loan. He's doing well for them I think.

Jamie Ness - Already out on loan. Again, will probably see out his contract before ending up in league 1 or maybe back to Scotland.

[drjeffsdiscobarge]

Sept 2, 2014 8:58:55 GMT stokester1989 said:

Palacios - cost us a lot of money, also costs us in wages but cant stay fit. hes been a massive let down but no body is going take his wage demands. Once his contract is expired I would be surprised to see another Premiership team come in for him.

Brek Shea - A Big hype about him when he came here but failed to impress. I didn't actually get see too much of him to make an opinion of him but he's taking a wage from us for nothing so id rather him gone.

Shotton - Wont see much of him no more, he is a Championship player in my opinion and would thrive there with game time. maybe Derby wanna keep him

Sorrenson - Id class him as dead wood as he wont get a game for us, we will utilise Butland when we can. I love Sorro though his efforts helped keep us where we are.

Wilko - My opinion Wilko is a Championship player and wont get a look at under Hughes, because he is so passionate about stoke and served over ten years for us fans wont want to see him leave us.

Edu - On Loan in the MLS, a waste of a sighning only played one game for us. I believe he was either Free or very cheap but he still takes a wage.

Jamie Ness - we had him as a Free from rangers, but hes only played 1 cup game and now on loan at Crewe after a spell at Leyton Orient even in league one hesw faield to make an impact. hes never going cut it in the premiership.

you definitely need remove sorro from that list!

[sheikhmomo]

Sornson will be our number two again this season when the loan window re-opens. His wood is very much alive.

[sportsman]

Sept 2, 2014 8:44:05 GMT bolly_premprem said:

I am happy with the window with the exception of assaidi.

Look at the picture on the website, he clearly isn't happy being sent back here, I think he showed his intention with the wage demands he had.

Hopefully he will try harder to get a deal where he wants to be until the january window

biggest load of bollocks I've read on here for a long while. Deserving of a ban in itself!

Doesn't look happy? Bloody hell.

[boskampsflaps]

Sept 2, 2014 9:07:22 GMT block27row27 said:

Sept 2, 2014 8:58:55 GMT stokester1989 said:

Palacios - cost us a lot of money, also costs us in wages but cant stay fit. hes been a massive let down but no body is going take his wage demands. Once his contract is expired I would be surprised to see another Premiership team come in for him.

Brek Shea - A Big hype about him when he came here but failed to impress. I didn't actually get see too much of him to make an opinion of him but he's taking a wage from us for nothing so id rather him gone.

Shotton - Wont see much of him no more, he is a Championship player in my opinion and would thrive there with game time. maybe Derby wanna keep him

Sorrenson - Id class him as dead wood as he wont get a game for us, we will utilise Butland when we can. I love Sorro though his efforts helped keep us where we are.

Wilko - My opinion Wilko is a Championship player and wont get a look at under Hughes, because he is so passionate about stoke and served over ten years for us fans wont want to see him leave us.

Edu - On Loan in the MLS, a waste of a sighning only played one game for us. I believe he was either Free or very cheap but he still takes a wage.

Jamie Ness - we had him as a Free from rangers, but hes only played 1 cup game and now on loan at Crewe after a spell at Leyton Orient even in league one hesw faield to make an impact. hes never going cut it in the premiership.

Shotton has signed for Derby - 500k. It was only initially a loan so that he could play in the cup game the night after.

They've got a bargain.

[sufolkstokie]

Sept 2, 2014 18:26:46 GMT sheikhmomo said:

Sornson will be our number two again this season when the loan window re-opens. His wood is very much alive.

I am sure his wife will be relieved to hear that

[boskampsflaps]

Sept 2, 2014 8:44:05 GMT bolly_premprem said:

I am happy with the window with the exception of assaidi.

Look at the picture on the website, he clearly isn't happy being sent back here, I think he showed his intention with the wage demands he had.

Hopefully he will try harder to get a deal where he wants to be until the january window

Or it was late at night and he's been sitting around for hours waiting for it to happen, he doesn't need to look like he's just grown another dick does he.