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Post by scfcno1fan on Aug 31, 2014 16:44:49 GMT
The strangest transfer in our history?
Didn't we sign him and then sell him straight to Man Utd?
Turned into a half decent player by the looks of things.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 31, 2014 16:46:16 GMT
Yes I think we did.
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Post by Linx on Aug 31, 2014 16:47:02 GMT
Sold him to Man United for £1million, if I remember rightly.
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Post by scfcno1fan on Aug 31, 2014 16:47:51 GMT
I think we bought him cheaply as well, but he never played?
Must have been a fair few years ago.
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Post by StokieBoy31 on Aug 31, 2014 17:16:06 GMT
I think it was part of the Shawcross deal wasn't it? Because Man Utd couldn't sign him straight away because he was from Belgium or something?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 31, 2014 17:18:33 GMT
At the time we bought him, there were people on here claiming we'd done it at the request of Man United for them to buy him later.
I don't know how true this was, but having done nowt for us other than to look extremely average in our reserves, United then bought him off us for the same price we paid for him, which I think was around £250k.
Very odd transfer.
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Post by scfcno1fan on Aug 31, 2014 17:22:42 GMT
I think it was part of the Shawcross deal wasn't it? Because Man Utd couldn't sign him straight away because he was from Belgium or something? Why wouldn't they have been able to sign him? It was a strange transfer.
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Post by basingstokie on Aug 31, 2014 17:37:14 GMT
Foster and De Laet both a bit strange. Do nothing for us and then go to the biggest club in the land
Wonder if Sir Alex was slipping it to Jon Walters and this was the only way he could make it up to Tone?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 31, 2014 17:40:12 GMT
Foster and De Laet both a bit strange. Do nothing for us and then go to the biggest club in the land Wonder if Sir Alex was slipping it to Jon Walters and this was the only way he could make it up to Tone? You could at least understand the Foster one, because Fergie had watched him at Wrexham a number of times and he'd had a number of impressive performances.
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Post by snapotter on Aug 31, 2014 17:44:18 GMT
Seem to remember someone posting at the time we signed De Laet that he arrived knowing he would be moving to Man Utd. Very odd and probably highly dodgy ;D
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Post by Pugsley on Aug 31, 2014 17:55:47 GMT
No place for kiddies at Stoke City in those days...
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Post by pyrus on Aug 31, 2014 18:03:43 GMT
At the time we bought him, there were people on here claiming we'd done it at the request of Man United for them to buy him later. I don't know how true this was, but having done nowt for us other than to look extremely average in our reserves, United then bought him off us for the same price we paid for him, which I think was around £250k. Very odd transfer. I heard at the time, that ManU thought the price would have been loaded if they had bought him directly. They asked us to buy him on the understanding that they would take him off our hands. We made a big profit on the deal quickly and they got the player for less than they would have had to pay to get home directly.
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Post by chopandmash on Aug 31, 2014 19:28:19 GMT
Didn't he score against us for Norwich a few years back?
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Post by basingstokie on Aug 31, 2014 19:28:37 GMT
At the time we bought him, there were people on here claiming we'd done it at the request of Man United for them to buy him later. I don't know how true this was, but having done nowt for us other than to look extremely average in our reserves, United then bought him off us for the same price we paid for him, which I think was around £250k. Very odd transfer. I heard at the time, that ManU thought the price would have been loaded if they had bought him directly. They asked us to buy him on the understanding that they would take him off our hands. We made a big profit on the deal quickly and they got the player for less than they would have had to pay to get home directly. Understandable and I presume Alex F wouldn't go back on his word but what if he was fired or what if RDL suffered a serious injury - we are left holding the baby
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Post by basingstokie on Aug 31, 2014 19:30:33 GMT
The strangest transfer in our history? Didn't we sign him and then sell him straight to Man Utd? Turned into a half decent player by the looks of things. Strangest transfer in our history is a pretty tough title to lift. I'll throw Shea into the mix
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Post by robinreliant on Aug 31, 2014 20:06:46 GMT
Came to us from Royal Antwerp, widely described as one of Man Poo's feeder clubs, in time for our first Premier season.
Played in cup games then disappeared into the reserves until signing for Man Poo several seasons later.
A journeyman footballer, similar to Stephen Kelly, who joined, played and left us in a couple of seasons.
In conclusion : he's an enigma : like Vince Pericard ????
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Post by onionman on Aug 31, 2014 20:14:59 GMT
The strangest transfer in our history? Didn't we sign him and then sell him straight to Man Utd? Turned into a half decent player by the looks of things. Strangest transfer in our history is a pretty tough title to lift. I'll throw Shea into the mix Andrew Davies
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Post by harryburrows on Aug 31, 2014 21:08:00 GMT
Foster and De Laet both a bit strange. Do nothing for us and then go to the biggest club in the land Wonder if Sir Alex was slipping it to Jon Walters and this was the only way he could make it up to Tone? You could at least understand the Foster one, because Fergie had watched him at Wrexham a number of times and he'd had a number of impressive performances. fergies son was manager of wrexham at the time
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Post by siggy on Aug 31, 2014 22:04:25 GMT
Wasn't he lodging with someone who hand links to the oatcake?
It was something along the lines that Fergie got us to sign him on the basis they would sign him from us later as he progressed.
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Post by 2004 on Aug 31, 2014 22:42:53 GMT
Didn't he score against us for Norwich a few years back? Yes I think that was the game Kenwyne scored a last minute equaliser at Carrow Road.
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Post by craig67 on Sept 1, 2014 9:41:52 GMT
You could at least understand the Foster one, because Fergie had watched him at Wrexham a number of times and he'd had a number of impressive performances. fergies son was manager of wrexham at the time Darren Ferguson was playing for Wrexham at the time in the twilight of his career as I seem to remember Harry.Never managed them.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2014 10:45:53 GMT
Didn't he score against us for Norwich a few years back? Yes I think that was the game Kenwyne scored a last minute equaliser at Carrow Road. Think it was an equaliser after SJW missed a PK
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Post by harryburrows on Sept 1, 2014 17:11:08 GMT
fergies son was manager of wrexham at the time Darren Ferguson was playing for Wrexham at the time in the twilight of his career as I seem to remember Harry.Never managed them. fair enough craig , i just remember he was involved at the time
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Post by craig67 on Sept 1, 2014 17:47:24 GMT
Darren Ferguson was playing for Wrexham at the time in the twilight of his career as I seem to remember Harry.Never managed them. fair enough craig , i just remember he was involved at the time He told his father about him-so god knows why he signed for us?? Definitely a touch of the Richie de Laet?
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Post by Squeekster on Sept 1, 2014 17:52:12 GMT
Seem to think that united's coach really fancied him but was thought that if united bid the price would sky rocket so we signed him really for Fergie,hence he never played for us.
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Post by harryburrows on Sept 1, 2014 18:12:03 GMT
fair enough craig , i just remember he was involved at the time He told his father about him-so god knows why he signed for us?? Definitely a touch of the Richie de Laet? he was a stoke player on loan to wrexham
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Post by rawli on Sept 1, 2014 18:21:23 GMT
I heard at the time, that ManU thought the price would have been loaded if they had bought him directly. They asked us to buy him on the understanding that they would take him off our hands. We made a big profit on the deal quickly and they got the player for less than they would have had to pay to get home directly. Understandable and I presume Alex F wouldn't go back on his word but what if he was fired or what if RDL suffered a serious injury - we are left holding the baby Unlikely he would be fired.
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Post by basingstokie on Sept 1, 2014 18:44:13 GMT
Understandable and I presume Alex F wouldn't go back on his word but what if he was fired or what if RDL suffered a serious injury - we are left holding the baby Unlikely he would be fired. Absolutely true, but the risk was still there for Stoke
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Post by Jamo on the wing on Sept 1, 2014 18:53:53 GMT
For strangest read dodgiest.
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Post by Davef on Sept 1, 2014 19:01:01 GMT
Here's what we said about the De Laet deal in The Oatcake when he signed for us:
The Strange case of Richie De Laet
WE’RE not usually too big on conspiracy theories at Oatcake HQ, but we must admit to being slightly intrigued by the signing of the young Belgian defender Richie De Laet from Royal Antwerp.
After almost four full seasons as Stoke City manager, Tony Pulis had yet to venture into the foreign market to sign a player before we brought De Laet to the club on a three year contract for £100,000.
If any of you aren’t aware, Royal Antwerp are the feeder club of Manchester United, and the Premiership Champions use them to blood their young players. Over the years the likes of Danny Higginbotham and Luke Chadwick amongst others have been sent over to Belgium to gain first team experience.
More recently, Stoke loanees Lee Martin and Ryan Shawcross have also played for Royal Antwerp and that’s where this transfer grabs our attention. Apparently, De Laet has come “highly recommended” by young Shawcross and if you believe some of the rumours going around, Tony Pulis hadn’t actually seen De Laet play prior to his move to the Britannia Stadium!
In the days leading up to the De Laet transfer, Stoke made a point of releasing a statement on their official website informing fans that the transfer was at “a delicate stage” in negotiations. It seems strange to us that such a song and dance should be made about a transfer of a teenage defender from a Belgian Second Division club, and who now, in our manager’s opinion, is almost a season away from the first team.
And you could be forgiven for thinking that there’s more than meets the eye to this transfer when you consider that young Adam Vass – who we had on our books for three years and who our then-Academy manager Noel Blake couldn’t speak highly enough of – was offered only a one year contract by the club just weeks after making his debut for his national side and Richie De Laet has been handed one for three years!
We might way wide of the mark here, but is there a Manchester United influence going on in this transfer? Do they have some kind of first refusal on him and are we basically borrowing him for a period to see if he cuts the mustard in English football?
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