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Post by jeycov on Sept 1, 2014 11:37:28 GMT
Is it just a coincidence that both Geoff and Pete, the two players who came back to training later than the others, have been injured or do you think maybe our backroom staff are partly responsible, maybe we have rushed them too much? I know its unlikely as its not like there's aren't other WC players starting for Prem clubs, just seems a bit of a coincidence. The surface around the edge of some pitches needs to be reviewed The sudden change from one surface to another is always going to be a problem in my opinion in any sport OK the grass will get a bit muddy, but this isn't the first time that there has been a problem this season albeit not one as serious as this appears to be Gutted for PO, I'm sure that he will get the very best treatment via the club
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Post by Davef on Sept 1, 2014 11:44:43 GMT
Is it just a coincidence that both Geoff and Pete, the two players who came back to training later than the others, have been injured or do you think maybe our backroom staff are partly responsible, maybe we have rushed them too much? I know its unlikely as its not like there's aren't other WC players starting for Prem clubs, just seems a bit of a coincidence. The surface around the edge of some pitches needs to be reviewed The sudden change from one surface to another is always going to be a problem in my opinion in any sport OK the grass will get a bit muddy, but this isn't the first time that there has been a problem this season albeit not one as serious as this appears to be Gutted for PO, I'm sure that he will get the very best treatment via the club I understand your point there jeycov, but the area in which PO landed had plenty of grass on it. As for those two players returning late and being injured, it's certainly just a coincidence in PO's case, you can't legislate for a player landing awkwardly like that. The tragedy of the situation is that he was injured when the ball came back to him after he'd overhit his cross to Mame Diouf. A little bit less weight on that cross and we'd have been 2-0 up and one of our best players would still be fit.
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Post by ladyinred on Sept 1, 2014 11:50:07 GMT
Gutted for PO, i'm sure the rest of the squad will be as well.
Strike another song off the repertoire.
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Post by sage on Sept 1, 2014 11:50:34 GMT
Is it just a coincidence that both Geoff and Pete, the two players who came back to training later than the others, have been injured or do you think maybe our backroom staff are partly responsible, maybe we have rushed them too much? I know its unlikely as its not like there's aren't other WC players starting for Prem clubs, just seems a bit of a coincidence. The surface around the edge of some pitches needs to be reviewed The sudden change from one surface to another is always going to be a problem in my opinion in any sport OK the grass will get a bit muddy, but this isn't the first time that there has been a problem this season albeit not one as serious as this appears to be Gutted for PO, I'm sure that he will get the very best treatment via the club Same thing happened to Moreno for Liverpool last week at Man City. Put one foot onto the astroturf (or whatever it is) along the edge of Man City's pitch, and his foot slid straight out from under him and he turned his ankle. Clearly a massive problem if players are risking injury just by putting a foot an inch over the white line.
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Post by ladyinred on Sept 1, 2014 11:54:47 GMT
The surface around the edge of some pitches needs to be reviewed The sudden change from one surface to another is always going to be a problem in my opinion in any sport OK the grass will get a bit muddy, but this isn't the first time that there has been a problem this season albeit not one as serious as this appears to be Gutted for PO, I'm sure that he will get the very best treatment via the club Same thing happened to Moreno for Liverpool last week at Man City. Put one foot onto the astroturf (or whatever it is) along the edge of Man City's pitch, and his foot slid straight out from under him and he turned his ankle. Clearly a massive problem if players are risking injury just by putting a foot an inch over the white line. Etherington did his knee on the astro as well in the FA Cup match that we played circa 2010
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Post by robstokie on Sept 1, 2014 11:57:46 GMT
Hope its nowhere near as bad as the 12 months they are saying. Losing Ode would be a MASSIVE blow for us. Just look at the impact he had when he came in. Gutted. Absolutely Gutted.
As for potential replacements, I see we are linked with Assaidi (again) and Aaron Lennon. I, however, would like to see us have a final go for Redmond before we consider these two.
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Post by jeycov on Sept 1, 2014 11:59:42 GMT
The surface around the edge of some pitches needs to be reviewed The sudden change from one surface to another is always going to be a problem in my opinion in any sport OK the grass will get a bit muddy, but this isn't the first time that there has been a problem this season albeit not one as serious as this appears to be Gutted for PO, I'm sure that he will get the very best treatment via the club Same thing happened to Moreno for Liverpool last week at Man City. Put one foot onto the astroturf (or whatever it is) along the edge of Man City's pitch, and his foot slid straight out from under him and he turned his ankle. Clearly a massive problem if players are risking injury just by putting a foot an inch over the white line. I thought that it was a similar incident interesting to see if it gets a mention from the club
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Post by lordb on Sept 1, 2014 13:19:53 GMT
gutted
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Post by Davef on Sept 1, 2014 13:21:24 GMT
Odemingie DID NOT land on an astro turfed area!
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Post by Lightwood on Sept 1, 2014 13:28:49 GMT
Its not a career ending injury anymore. He's a fit bloke and will be fine long term. He's got another 2 seasons left in him, at least. Whether that's with us remains to be seen but this is a big blow to him and us. It's not career ending anymore but name me one player who has had ACL operation and returned to play at the same capacity. PO's main strength was his pace, he'll never get that back to the same level
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Post by ruts66 on Sept 1, 2014 14:10:41 GMT
Good luck, Peter - here's to some miracle surgery and a full recovery...
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Post by Northy on Sept 1, 2014 14:17:20 GMT
Same thing happened to Moreno for Liverpool last week at Man City. Put one foot onto the astroturf (or whatever it is) along the edge of Man City's pitch, and his foot slid straight out from under him and he turned his ankle. Clearly a massive problem if players are risking injury just by putting a foot an inch over the white line. Etherington did his knee on the astro as well in the FA Cup match that we played circa 2010 Cheers, was just racking my brains out to remember who it was for us that did that.
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Post by borat on Sept 1, 2014 14:23:10 GMT
Gutted, one of the best players last season!
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Post by pottersrule on Sept 1, 2014 14:29:15 GMT
Is it just a coincidence that both Geoff and Pete, the two players who came back to training later than the others, have been injured or do you think maybe our backroom staff are partly responsible, maybe we have rushed them too much? I know its unlikely as its not like there's aren't other WC players starting for Prem clubs, just seems a bit of a coincidence. The surface around the edge of some pitches needs to be reviewed The sudden change from one surface to another is always going to be a problem in my opinion in any sport OK the grass will get a bit muddy, but this isn't the first time that there has been a problem this season albeit not one as serious as this appears to bere Gutted for PO, I'm sure that he will get the very best treatment via the club I remember matty injuring himself at the same venue,slipping on the artificial surface.However Wingie didn't slip and his knee went when he tried to power the ball across the box.
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Post by thedeadlyshart on Sept 1, 2014 14:32:20 GMT
Its not a career ending injury anymore. He's a fit bloke and will be fine long term. He's got another 2 seasons left in him, at least. Whether that's with us remains to be seen but this is a big blow to him and us. It's not career ending anymore but name me one player who has had ACL operation and returned to play at the same capacity. PO's main strength was his pace, he'll never get that back to the same level it's happened, but only with athletes in their early 20's. Being 33 and all his recovery time and the fact that his athleticism is already decreasing mean an ACL tear is going to be very tough to come back from. I wish him the best though.
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Post by jb1982 on Sept 1, 2014 18:22:30 GMT
Anyone got a picture of exactly what happened, or a clip of it? I was there and didn't look too bad from what I saw, however I was heavily under the influence!
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Post by stokie25 on Sept 1, 2014 18:42:08 GMT
All the best Pete...We'll be with you!
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Post by march4 on Sept 1, 2014 18:52:48 GMT
Going back to the astroturf (and I take Dave's point that Odem didn't land on the astroturf), is this not part of the playing surface even though the ball would be out of play. Players often end up crossing the touchline in attempts to keep the ball in play. It is obvious to me that when you are in a position where you are trying to stop quickly or change direction then if the surface of the ground changes completely it is only going to increase the chances of serious injury.
It is about time the FA banned astroturf within 5 metres of any touchline.
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Post by thedeadlyshart on Sept 1, 2014 18:54:16 GMT
Anyone got a picture of exactly what happened, or a clip of it? I was there and didn't look too bad from what I saw, however I was heavily under the influence! it looked bad to me watching it at home. Leg buckled, then he reached for the back of his knee. Had to be carried off. I still haven't seen whether he had a scan or not, but even a PCL or ACL sprain is going to take a while to heal 100%, and surgery means missing the rest of the season.
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Post by march4 on Sept 1, 2014 19:00:14 GMT
Anyone got a picture of exactly what happened, or a clip of it? I was there and didn't look too bad from what I saw, however I was heavily under the influence! it looked bad to me watching it at home. Leg buckled, then he reached for the back of his knee. Had to be carried off. I still haven't seen whether he had a scan or not, but even a PCL or ACL sprain is going to take a while to heal 100%, and surgery means missing the rest of the season. His age won't help unfortunately. For a player who relies on mobility and acceleration, it really is bad luck.
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Post by thedeadlyshart on Sept 1, 2014 19:01:01 GMT
it looked bad to me watching it at home. Leg buckled, then he reached for the back of his knee. Had to be carried off. I still haven't seen whether he had a scan or not, but even a PCL or ACL sprain is going to take a while to heal 100%, and surgery means missing the rest of the season. His age won't help unfortunately. For a player who relies on mobility and acceleration, it really is bad luck. yes, and age is a big factor in recovery time as well.
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Post by lawrieleslie on Sept 1, 2014 20:01:54 GMT
Ouch! Has he played his last game for Stoke then? Matt Sandoz @mattsandoz1 · 1mVery bad news for @odemwingiep and stokecity - knee injury could rule him out for over 12 months. Fingers crossed he recovers quickly.The club are saying they can't assess him until swelling goes down. What makes a bbc reporter so special? He only says he could be out for 12 months equally he could be out for 3-4 weeks. Let's wait for the official diagnosis.
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Post by ************** on Sept 1, 2014 20:13:25 GMT
As the day has worn on i'm becoming more and more pissed off about this injury, as i'm sure everyone else is.
Get well soon PO - we need you. Top man.
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Post by ************** on Sept 1, 2014 20:14:48 GMT
Ouch! Has he played his last game for Stoke then? Matt Sandoz @mattsandoz1 · 1mVery bad news for @odemwingiep and stokecity - knee injury could rule him out for over 12 months. Fingers crossed he recovers quickly.The club are saying they can't assess him until swelling goes down. What makes a bbc reporter so special? He only says he could be out for 12 months equally he could be out for 3-4 weeks. Let's wait for the official diagnosis. I hope you're right LL. Special player for us.
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Post by cobhamstokey on Sept 1, 2014 20:17:04 GMT
I'm gutted he's been a breath of fresh air always a smile on his face. I hope his injurys not as bad as the rumours suggest.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2014 20:17:26 GMT
Odie ==== Superb at Stoke - here's for a speedy recovery
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Post by pottersrule on Sept 1, 2014 20:25:32 GMT
The club are saying they can't assess him until swelling goes down. What makes a bbc reporter so special? He only says he could be out for 12 months equally he could be out for 3-4 weeks. Let's wait for the official diagnosis. I hope you're right LL. Special player for us. Your right,he is a very clever player and we had a far greater attacking threat when he came on at half time on Saturday.
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Post by spud on Sept 1, 2014 20:40:07 GMT
Get well soon pete! All the best
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Post by 2004 on Sept 1, 2014 20:57:45 GMT
Get well soon Pete. We need you!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2014 21:06:19 GMT
Can't help but think if it's going be 12 months out then that could be it for peter in a stoke shirt. If that's to be it then the lad was superb in the time we had him
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