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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2014 7:45:43 GMT
Let's try again shall we? Hopefully no rain in Cardiff today for what becomes the first one-day match between ourselves and India. 10:30 start  |
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Post by ukcstokie on Aug 27, 2014 11:48:30 GMT
136-4 - which way will this go?
Always think that Raina is spitting image of Johnny Mathis
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2014 11:56:25 GMT
I know where that LBW should gone straight back to the Pavillion .....Knocking all three out ......where was the ubiquitous Dickie Bird when he's needed .....no where to be seen !  |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2014 11:58:44 GMT
136-4 - which way will this go? Always think that Raina is spitting image of Johnny Mathis I see what you mean .....I believe Johnny Mathis was a top class high jumper .......but could he bat ?  |
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Post by ukcstokie on Aug 27, 2014 12:26:23 GMT
136-4 - which way will this go? Always think that Raina is spitting image of Johnny Mathis I see what you mean .....I believe Johnny Mathis was a top class high jumper .......but could he bat ?  11 wides now. Shocking |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2014 12:28:20 GMT
Chris Jordan having an absolute mare.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2014 12:29:34 GMT
I see what you mean .....I believe Johnny Mathis was a top class high jumper .......but could he bat ? 11 wides now. Shocking Yes , shocking from Jordan , his radar is all over the place , but as has been mentioned commentary he had this problem earlier in the Test series |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2014 12:31:18 GMT
Chris Jordan having an absolute mare. Absolutely ......feel a little sorry for him , but he's obviously not learned from his experiences a little earlier in the summer |
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Post by ukcstokie on Aug 27, 2014 12:38:15 GMT
Oh, and Raina also looks like that chap out of Air Supply I think.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2014 12:46:23 GMT
Oh, and Raina also looks like that chap out of Air Supply I think. The Indians would be quite hoping that some of them start looking like Cricketers ! |
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Post by ukcstokie on Aug 27, 2014 12:52:30 GMT
Oh, and Raina also looks like that chap out of Air Supply I think. The Indians would be quite hoping that some of them start looking like Cricketers ! They look like ODI cricketers, not so sure about test cricketers (over here at least). Lots of empty seats again. They do need to think about their pricing policy again. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2014 12:57:56 GMT
The Indians would be quite hoping that some of them start looking like Cricketers ! They look like ODI cricketers, not so sure about test cricketers (over here at least). Lots of empty seats again. They do need to think about their pricing policy again. Absolutely right , far too expensive to pre order a ticket in this country for an International Cricket Match , always the question of value for money in weather related games , we are far to money orientated these days , a reflection of the way other sports have gone I suppose. |
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Post by ukcstokie on Aug 27, 2014 13:20:26 GMT
Bowling Jordan for the last over. Brave or stupid?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2014 13:24:19 GMT
Bowling Jordan for the last over. Brave or stupid? I would prefer inadvisable.  |
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Post by ukcstokie on Aug 27, 2014 13:33:24 GMT
Bowling Jordan for the last over. Brave or stupid? I would prefer inadvisable. Or brave and stupid? Why didn't he try some more from Root? |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2014 13:36:54 GMT
I would prefer inadvisable. Or brave and stupid? Why didn't he try some more from Root? I can't answer that one , I suppose he may have being trying to show faith in the lad ....wrongly so considering how he'd bowled earlier |
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Post by ukcstokie on Aug 27, 2014 15:03:16 GMT
Or brave and stupid? Why didn't he try some more from Root? I can't answer that one , I suppose he may have being trying to show faith in the lad ....wrongly so considering how he'd bowled earlier There's a point with any bowler where they need protecting - when they're off their game so much that they're spraying it around it does their confidence far more harm to keep them on than to remove them. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2014 15:40:47 GMT
Can't see us getting these, the ball is doing all sorts and our approach to the innings has been poor.
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Post by estrangedsonoffaye on Aug 27, 2014 16:10:14 GMT
I don't think we'll ever learn to play this form of the game properly.
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Post by estrangedsonoffaye on Aug 27, 2014 16:11:40 GMT
South Africa chased down 327 against the Aussies with 3 overs to spare, our chances of doing anything in the World Cup are infinitesimal.
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Post by ukcstokie on Aug 27, 2014 16:15:54 GMT
I don't think we'll ever learn to play this form of the game properly. I think Swanny is correct: we have no chance at the World Cup. There's too many teams playing ODI's on a different level to us. |
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Aug 27, 2014 16:24:30 GMT
We are cack at this, we couldn't win an egg cup, never mind a World cup.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2014 16:29:48 GMT
I don't think we'll ever learn to play this form of the game properly. I think Swanny is correct: we have no chance at the World Cup. There's too many teams playing ODI's on a different level to us. We have to start these games with the same approach that the other countries do , we have made a start , with Hales and Butler , we need to get James Taylor into the team as well , there are plenty of good young players around who can play this power game ....we just need to select them , I can't see it happening before this World Cup happens though |
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Post by partickpotter on Aug 27, 2014 17:07:39 GMT
I think Swanny is correct: we have no chance at the World Cup. There's too many teams playing ODI's on a different level to us. We have to start these games with the same approach that the other countries do , we have made a start , with Hales and Butler , we need to get James Taylor into the team as well , there are plenty of good young players around who can play this power game ....we just need to select them , I can't see it happening before this World Cup happens though Swann was saying what most followers of English cricketers have been saying for a long time; England's approach is all wrong. Wrong selection, wrong tactics, wrong captain, wrong everything. Unfortunately Captain Cock Up puts himself ahead of anything else. And he is the root of all our troubles. I said that while winning the test series was great - there was a big risk it would just mask over a whole lot of issues that are still as big at the end of the series as they were at the start. Again most of this revolves around Cook. Ditch him from the ODI team; take the captaincy off him in the test team. Leave him to become, once again, the best test opening batsman in the world. Oh - and pick men in form. Meaning, as you say Taylor. He was sensational yet again yesterday. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2014 18:34:43 GMT
We have to start these games with the same approach that the other countries do , we have made a start , with Hales and Butler , we need to get James Taylor into the team as well , there are plenty of good young players around who can play this power game ....we just need to select them , I can't see it happening before this World Cup happens though Swann was saying what most followers of English cricketers have been saying for a long time; England's approach is all wrong. Wrong selection, wrong tactics, wrong captain, wrong everything. Unfortunately Captain Cock Up puts himself ahead of anything else. And he is the root of all our troubles. I said that while winning the test series was great - there was a big risk it would just mask over a whole lot of issues that are still as big at the end of the series as they were at the start. Again most of this revolves around Cook. Ditch him from the ODI team; take the captaincy off him in the test team. Leave him to become, once again, the best test opening batsman in the world. Oh - and pick men in form. Meaning, as you say Taylor. He was sensational yet again yesterday. Today was a poor performance , but it would be unfair to use it as a wholesale means to blame Cook for every single facet of England's game that is below par , that is patently unfair , he is not responsible for the way the bowlers bowl or the batsmen other than him self bat .....what he is responsible for is the bowling changes , and the field placings ....some of which were indifferent once again today ......He is the Captain , but, he only bears some responsibility for selection and tactics and everything else.....there is a greater management set up in which Peter Moores the coach has a big say in what direction the Team is moving in .....both Cook and Moores are only carrying out their mandate given to them by Paul Downton , until the ECB wish to change that , things will remain as they are......Don't Knock Cook for doing the job that he has been chosen to do, he is doing it to the best of his ability , whether that is good enough is open to debate ......but I to hope to see him regain his position as the worlds best opening batsman |
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Post by partickpotter on Aug 27, 2014 20:41:19 GMT
Swann was saying what most followers of English cricketers have been saying for a long time; England's approach is all wrong. Wrong selection, wrong tactics, wrong captain, wrong everything. Unfortunately Captain Cock Up puts himself ahead of anything else. And he is the root of all our troubles. I said that while winning the test series was great - there was a big risk it would just mask over a whole lot of issues that are still as big at the end of the series as they were at the start. Again most of this revolves around Cook. Ditch him from the ODI team; take the captaincy off him in the test team. Leave him to become, once again, the best test opening batsman in the world. Oh - and pick men in form. Meaning, as you say Taylor. He was sensational yet again yesterday. Today was a poor performance , but it would be unfair to use it as a wholesale means to blame Cook for every single facet of England's game that is below par , that is patently unfair , he is not responsible for the way the bowlers bowl or the batsmen other than him self bat .....what he is responsible for is the bowling changes , and the field placings ....some of which were indifferent once again today ......He is the Captain , but, he only bears some responsibility for selection and tactics and everything else.....there is a greater management set up in which Peter Moores the coach has a big say in what direction the Team is moving in .....both Cook and Moores are only carrying out their mandate given to them by Paul Downton , until the ECB wish to change that , things will remain as they are......Don't Knock Cook for doing the job that he has been chosen to do, he is doing it to the best of his ability , whether that is good enough is open to debate ......but I to hope to see him regain his position as the worlds best opening batsman Cook as captain I just don't buy. Cook as opening bat - I do buy. Cook as an ODI batsman - nope. Cook as a test cricketer - no question. Cook's current position is untenable - or it should be. Downton and Moores are also part of the problem. Although they obviously can't be held to account for the diabolical winter, as far as I am concerned they are cut from the same establishment cloth as their predecessors and effectively represent a strong continuity of the previous regime. The whole thing needs turning on its head. With the existing management trinity of Cook, Moores and Downton I just see more disappointment ahead. |
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Post by Okie Stokie. on Aug 27, 2014 21:22:52 GMT
Why do I feel the dark steely eyes of Bish staring right at me.  |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2014 21:46:49 GMT
Why do I feel the dark steely eyes of Bish staring right at me. Why indeed Okie..........? are you still feeling sufficiently guilty about that prediction of yours ?  |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2014 21:23:07 GMT
First match since Okie returns and we lose. We won the lot when Okie was gone. WHAT A BASTARD!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2014 22:48:17 GMT
First match since Okie returns and we lose. We won the lot when Okie was gone. WHAT A BASTARD! You must draw your own conclusions as to whether that was a coincidence or not ? Personally I don't think so |
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