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Post by miggo on Aug 24, 2014 17:36:05 GMT
Maybe Huth isnt ready but I'd like to see him back Until Huth is back, I'd play Muniesa. Wilson is hardly back up let alone first choice. Muniesa is much better on the ball than Wilson who's only ability seems to pass back the ball to Shawcross or back to Begovitch when ever he gets the it, even when there's no on in front of him. Where do people keep getting this idea from, muniesa would be terrible. He is not a CB! Imagine him going up against some of the strikers in this league they'd destroy him. Sent from my C6603 using proboards
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Post by liathroid on Aug 24, 2014 17:36:14 GMT
Big Tom held off Bojan to easy ,who didn't even try to tackle him,Bego is giving soft touches away and Wilson was caught at the back post maybe he tought Bego might have held on to it and this could go on all day You can't assume as a defender though, you have to be decisive. So we're agreed he was at least partially culpable!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2014 17:37:50 GMT
So you don't think he switched off and lost him? He couldn't have handled that situation any better at all? Big Tom held off Bojan to easy ,who didn't even try to tackle him,Bego is giving soft touches away and Wilson was caught at the back post maybe he tought Bego might have held on to it and this could go on all day 100% bud a catalogue of errors but unfortunatly for Wilson he has been the focus the last two matches a poor attempt of a challenge last week and a moments lack of concentration this week, he is prone to mistakes though but he's not alone we need to buck up as a team.
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Post by Stoke70 on Aug 24, 2014 17:40:01 GMT
Wilson time reaction is a real concern.
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Post by chiefdelilah on Aug 24, 2014 17:40:44 GMT
Until Huth is back, I'd play Muniesa. Wilson is hardly back up let alone first choice. Muniesa is much better on the ball than Wilson who's only ability seems to pass back the ball to Shawcross or back to Begovitch when ever he gets the it, even when there's no on in front of him. Where do people keep getting this idea from, muniesa would be terrible. He is not a CB! Imagine him going up against some of the strikers in this league they'd destroy him. Sent from my C6603 using proboards He's looked very good there for the most part and is tougher than he gets credit for.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2014 17:54:26 GMT
Where do people keep getting this idea from, muniesa would be terrible. He is not a CB! Imagine him going up against some of the strikers in this league they'd destroy him. Sent from my C6603 using proboards He's looked very good there for the most part and is tougher than he gets credit for. I'm not 100% convinced he is the answer but neither is Wilson
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Post by chiefdelilah on Aug 24, 2014 17:55:04 GMT
He's looked very good there for the most part and is tougher than he gets credit for. I'm not 100% convinced he is the answer but neither is Wilson That's how I feel as well.
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Post by miggo on Aug 24, 2014 17:59:06 GMT
Where do people keep getting this idea from, muniesa would be terrible. He is not a CB! Imagine him going up against some of the strikers in this league they'd destroy him. Sent from my C6603 using proboards He's looked very good there for the most part and is tougher than he gets credit for. Not sure about that, he's only played as a CB in what 1/2 games as a sub appearance? Put him there against a team like man City and it could end in disaster. I like Muni but he's a left back and that's his best position unfortunately for him pieters is in front of him and I can't see that changing. Just because he's done well in the few appearances doesn't mean he should be played out of position, after all these years I for one have had enough of square pegs and round holes Sent from my C6603 using proboards
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Post by mccfred on Aug 24, 2014 18:02:21 GMT
Huth should be playing at Centre Back If not Huth then Muniesa If not Muniesa then Wilson.
I don't want to hate on Wilson, he a good utility player, and a good backup should someone be injured, but he's no starter.
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Post by pottersrule on Aug 24, 2014 18:11:26 GMT
Until Huth is back, I'd play Muniesa. Wilson is hardly back up let alone first choice. Muniesa is much better on the ball than Wilson who's only ability seems to pass back the ball to Shawcross or back to Begovitch when ever he gets the it, even when there's no on in front of him. Where do people keep getting this idea from, muniesa would be terrible. He is not a CB! Imagine him going up against some of the strikers in this league they'd destroy him. Sent from my C6603 using proboards He did against Everton,you are right he was awful and we got battered.
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Post by chiefdelilah on Aug 24, 2014 18:18:40 GMT
Where do people keep getting this idea from, muniesa would be terrible. He is not a CB! Imagine him going up against some of the strikers in this league they'd destroy him. Sent from my C6603 using proboards He did against Everton,you are right he was awful and we got battered. He also did against spurs and Fulham and he was ace.
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Post by stokemanusa on Aug 24, 2014 18:20:44 GMT
Muniesa please!
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Post by hatchett on Aug 24, 2014 18:21:26 GMT
So as I have posted on another thread, is it good enough that we stick with Wilson or an unfit Huth this season?
I think we need a proven fit CB still in the transfer window still
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Post by Pugsley on Aug 24, 2014 18:24:37 GMT
I wish people would make their minds up. Either you want players in the side that ended last season or you don't.
Like I say, breathtaking fucktardery all over the place.
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Post by stokemanusa on Aug 24, 2014 18:25:24 GMT
Until Huth is back, I'd play Muniesa. Wilson is hardly back up let alone first choice. Muniesa is much better on the ball than Wilson who's only ability seems to pass back the ball to Shawcross or back to Begovitch when ever he gets the it, even when there's no on in front of him. Where do people keep getting this idea from, muniesa would be terrible. He is not a CB! Imagine him going up against some of the strikers in this league they'd destroy him. Sent from my C6603 using proboards Muniesa is still the only CB at stoke to outplay Andy Carroll for several headers at stoke. His leaping ability is unmatched. He was also magnificent at CB for a few games last season next to Ryan... for a suspended/injured Wilson and an injured huth... Infact he destroyed several cf's that always get one on us.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 24, 2014 18:27:51 GMT
Awful centre back, just awful. This whole episode with him is like when we had Collins. For some reason people just couldn't see that one player was undermining the whole side. Well folks, meet Marc Wilson.
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Post by iglugluk on Aug 24, 2014 18:31:27 GMT
As said many a time last week, if he's fit I would pick Huth every time, Wilson is not reliable or switched on enough to be first choice CB, regardless of whether he started last season after Christmas or not. He wasn't good enough then either, it's just we were way more effective in attack during that period and it disguised the issue to some extent. As said above and also many times previously he is a good utility player and deserves his place in the squad, but that doesn't make him a dedicated CB.
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Post by stokiejoe on Aug 24, 2014 18:35:00 GMT
Why indeed unreliable.
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Post by slicko on Aug 24, 2014 18:55:14 GMT
Wilson is a great player in a number of positions but I stand by my statement earlier that he was napping. When Huddlestone shot, he was goalside and touch tight. He then went in a trance.
Huth, rightly or wrongly, would've had his arms around Jelavic. Worst case scenario, penno, best and most likely, corner.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 24, 2014 18:56:50 GMT
The only position I think he's any use in is left back.
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Post by manchesterpotter on Aug 24, 2014 19:08:52 GMT
The only position I think he's any use in is left back. This. The way I look at it is this: Other than a promoted side, would Wilson get into any other team in the Premier League? I would say no. On that basis I would say he shouldn't be a starter.
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Post by robstokie on Aug 24, 2014 20:12:36 GMT
Until Huth is back, I'd play Muniesa. Wilson is hardly back up let alone first choice. Muniesa is much better on the ball than Wilson who's only ability seems to pass back the ball to Shawcross or back to Begovitch when ever he gets the it, even when there's no on in front of him. Where do people keep getting this idea from, muniesa would be terrible. He is not a CB! Imagine him going up against some of the strikers in this league they'd destroy him. Sent from my C6603 using proboards I second that. The only place Muniesa should be playing is left-back. Didn't he play at centre back at Everton and get completely over-ran and out muscled by their lot.
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Post by pottersrule on Aug 24, 2014 20:59:24 GMT
He did against Everton,you are right he was awful and we got battered. He also did against spurs and Fulham and he was ace. He didn't play Centre Back in either of those games,he played left back.
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Post by chiefdelilah on Aug 24, 2014 21:31:41 GMT
He also did against spurs and Fulham and he was ace. He didn't play Centre Back in either of those games,he played left back. He moved to centre back after Ryan was sent off and played centre back all match against Fulham.
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Post by moult50 on Aug 25, 2014 9:35:22 GMT
Why do we keep playing Whelan?
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Post by chiefdelilah on Aug 25, 2014 10:05:50 GMT
Why do we keep playing Whelan? Because he was one of our best players last season and we don't have anyone else to play there.
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Post by 2004 on Aug 25, 2014 10:44:49 GMT
Wilson worries me at CB. He was only meant to be filling in for Huth! I think we need to go to a more natural defender because I don't care if our CB's are not world class ball players.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2014 20:56:14 GMT
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Post by jimigoodwinsbeard on Sept 16, 2014 14:53:39 GMT
Where do people keep getting this idea from, muniesa would be terrible. He is not a CB! Imagine him going up against some of the strikers in this league they'd destroy him. Sent from my C6603 using proboards I second that. The only place Muniesa should be playing is left-back. Didn't he play at centre back at Everton and get completely over-ran and out muscled by their lot. Didn't the whole team get over-run and out-muscled that day? It was a shocking team performance. Muniesa at CB if huth not fully fit, as some have said, he was superb against carroll.
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Post by robstokie on Sept 17, 2014 16:56:59 GMT
I second that. The only place Muniesa should be playing is left-back. Didn't he play at centre back at Everton and get completely over-ran and out muscled by their lot. Didn't the whole team get over-run and out-muscled that day? It was a shocking team performance. Muniesa at CB if huth not fully fit, as some have said, he was superb against carroll. He played at left-back that day (I take it you are talking about West Ham at home last season), im sure he came on as a straight swap for Pieters. As for the Everton game, we were shit that day, but Muniesa looked completely out of his depth physically. I know he has built himself up a bit since then, but I still wouldn't feel comfortable chucking him one-on-one up against a big lump like Carroll.
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