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Post by Gods on Aug 20, 2014 21:12:23 GMT
How the fuck did we get here We have flown at least 500 of these brain-washed savages out to Iraq and Syria care of British Airways To compound the misery they will fly back to London Heathrow, passports in tact, to receive a ticker-tape reception at the local Imam over the coming months. It's truly gob-smacking stuff, a horror show played out in real life and no one appears to be able to do a single thing about it
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Post by Billybigbollox on Aug 20, 2014 21:17:43 GMT
We have to stop giving 'British citizenship' to half the world and then these people will be seen as what they really are. Fucked up religious fanatics who will use extreme terror to achieve their goals. They have nothing to do with Britain or being British.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2014 21:22:34 GMT
How the fuck did we get here We have shipped at least 500 of these brain dead nutters out to Iraq and Syria 'Brain dead' ? I don't think so. It is inevitable what has happened and something I have expected for a number of years . I expect the problem will get far worse and we as a nation can do nothing about it. We have passed the point of no return .
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Post by Squeekster on Aug 20, 2014 21:36:17 GMT
How the fuck did we get here We have shipped at least 500 of these brain dead nutters out to Iraq and Syria 'Brain dead' ? I don't think so. It is inevitable what has happened and something I have expected for a number of years . I expect the problem will get far worse and we as a nation can do nothing about it. We have passed the point of no return . The likes of UKIP will one day rule and it will be by default!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2014 21:43:08 GMT
'Brain dead' ? I don't think so. It is inevitable what has happened and something I have expected for a number of years . I expect the problem will get far worse and we as a nation can do nothing about it. We have passed the point of no return . The likes of UKIP will one day rule and it will be by default! No ....it will be popular among the working classes as it is now but ultimately there will be a concerted effort to educate the public by all three mainstream parties to the detrimental effect of adopting UKIPs policies. The alienation of Britain in Europe is something that would cripple us and only those of limited or little intelligence would be daft enough to support. They will become a lobbyist group advocating an end to mass immigration which many will see as a step forward.
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Post by Squeekster on Aug 20, 2014 21:51:48 GMT
The likes of UKIP will one day rule and it will be by default! No ....it will be popular among the working classes as it is now but ultimately there will be a concerted effort to educate the public by all three mainstream parties to the detrimental effect of adopting UKIPs policies. The alienation of Britain in Europe is something that would cripple us and only those of limited or little intelligence would be daft enough to support. They will become a lobbyist group advocating an end to mass immigration which many will see as a step forward. Not sure of the alienation as i think a lot of Europe are getting like minded about fanatics from the middle east but like you say people are getting that fed up they'll start voting for penny polices!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2014 21:58:35 GMT
The reason to stay in Europe can be captured in two words...Banking and Insurance.
As for the beheading of Mr Foley by a British citizen it comes as no great surprise. It will simply drive an even bigger wedge into the toxic soup of greater integration of the masses.
The pan is now starting to simmer and boil over the sides....
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Post by santy on Aug 20, 2014 22:14:47 GMT
I remember at school when the British Muslim children were taken out of class for their special beheading classes. Like when the lasses were taken out to talk about periods and such. I'm still just bitter us young ordinary British lads didn't get any special classes.
Surely that's the only way to suggest that the being British part has anything to do with it, if somewhere in the mainstream parts of British society we're teaching beheading?
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Post by desman2 on Aug 20, 2014 22:19:16 GMT
Youve got what you voted for all these years. Your children and grandchildren will be so proud of you.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2014 22:27:09 GMT
I remember at school when the British Muslim children were taken out of class for their special beheading classes. Like when the lasses were taken out to talk about periods and such. I'm still just bitter us young ordinary British lads didn't get any special classes. Surely that's the only way to suggest that the being British part has anything to do with it, if somewhere in the mainstream parts of British society we're teaching beheading? There were no special beheading classes when I grew up , but come to think of it .....there wasn't any Muslims either. The fact that the murder was carried out by a Britain is to some extent irrelevant , but the underlying stench of mistrust and betrayal something that is far more difficult to explain away by simplistic humour. A fact not lost on David Cameron who left his holiday plans to make a special statement on the matter. The implications of this evil act of cowardly murder by a British Muslim will have profound consequences for many years to come and for many reasons.
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Post by salopstick on Aug 20, 2014 22:48:18 GMT
Once again a whole demographic gets demonised BECAUSE OF THE ACTIONS OF a minority element. FROM THAT DEMOGRAPHIC
The fact he is a British Muslim makes it no better no worse
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Post by desman2 on Aug 20, 2014 22:48:24 GMT
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Post by mermaidsal on Aug 20, 2014 23:33:37 GMT
We have to stop giving 'British citizenship' to half the world and then these people will be seen as what they really are. Fucked up religious fanatics who will use extreme terror to achieve their goals. They have nothing to do with Britain or being British. The trouble is this brainwashed psycho sounds British born and bred and his parents or grandparents have probably been totally sound migrants here. That's why he's been used in this way. I think we have to break our own traditions and rules and, since the mosques have failed to police themselves, get in and police Muslim religious organisationa way more tightly. Paradoxically I think it's the only way to preserve religious and political freedom for the rest of us. Anyone who doesn't now believe these lunatic throwbacks hate us and want to destory our way of lives is insanely naive - and if decent British Muslims don't want to get lumped in with this lot, they NOW HAVE to take big strong visible steps to destroy them too.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2014 23:40:45 GMT
We have to stop giving 'British citizenship' to half the world and then these people will be seen as what they really are. Fucked up religious fanatics who will use extreme terror to achieve their goals. They have nothing to do with Britain or being British. The trouble is this brainwashed psycho sounds British born and bred and his parents or grandparents have probably been totally sound migrants here. That's why he's been used in this way. I think we have to break our own traditions and rules and, since the mosques have failed to police themselves, get in and police Muslim religious organisationa way more tightly. Paradoxically I think it's the only way to preserve religious and political freedom for the rest of us. Anyone who doesn't now believe these lunatic throwbacks hate us and want to destory our way of lives is insanely naive - and if decent British Muslims don't want to get lumped in with this lot, they NOW HAVE to take big strong visible steps to destroy them too. Wise words Sal .
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Post by britsabroad on Aug 21, 2014 1:26:55 GMT
We have to stop giving 'British citizenship' to half the world and then these people will be seen as what they really are. Fucked up religious fanatics who will use extreme terror to achieve their goals. They have nothing to do with Britain or being British. The trouble is this brainwashed psycho sounds British born and bred and his parents or grandparents have probably been totally sound migrants here. That's why he's been used in this way. I think we have to break our own traditions and rules and, since the mosques have failed to police themselves, get in and police Muslim religious organisationa way more tightly. Paradoxically I think it's the only way to preserve religious and political freedom for the rest of us. Anyone who doesn't now believe these lunatic throwbacks hate us and want to destory our way of lives is insanely naive - and if decent British Muslims don't want to get lumped in with this lot, they NOW HAVE to take big strong visible steps to destroy them too. Do you really think this act will change anything? There are now too many Muslim votes at risk to go cracking down on anything.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2014 2:41:24 GMT
How the fuck did we get here We have shipped at least 500 of these brain dead nutters out to Iraq and Syria 'Brain dead' ? I don't think so. It is inevitable what has happened and something I have expected for a number of years . I expect the problem will get far worse and we as a nation can do nothing about it. We have passed the point of no return . As always MUMF I agree with you, all bar 1 point, we can do something about it, but I just can't help feeling the our so called Intelligence Service ( Oxymoron) seem to do nothing at all, whether their hands are tied by Whitehall, or they have some hidden agenda of self importance I don't know, but time after time we hear the immortal words..." He was on the radar for some time..."
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Post by britsabroad on Aug 21, 2014 5:36:56 GMT
'Brain dead' ? I don't think so. It is inevitable what has happened and something I have expected for a number of years . I expect the problem will get far worse and we as a nation can do nothing about it. We have passed the point of no return . As always MUMF I agree with you, all bar 1 point, we can do something about it, but I just can't help feeling the our so called Intelligence Service ( Oxymoron) seem to do nothing at all, whether their hands are tied by Whitehall, or they have some hidden agenda of self importance I don't know, but time after time we hear the immortal words..." He was on the radar for some time..." The job of the intelligence services is to identify and track these people. Apprehending them falls to our useless police force according to the idiotic laws our government set for them.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2014 7:35:07 GMT
This guy is spot on. He looks you on the eye and tells it as it is . His politics may not be to your liking , but at least he doesn't waiver from being a liberal piss flapper , to a committed socialist , and then on to the Green Party.... He does not speak with forked tongue. Suffice to say , that I wouldn't return back to the republic of Pakistan if someone gave me a house in the city and £ 100,000 to spend. There are some things in life that money cannot buy.
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Post by boothenboy75 on Aug 21, 2014 9:24:22 GMT
We have to stop giving 'British citizenship' to half the world and then these people will be seen as what they really are. Fucked up religious fanatics who will use extreme terror to achieve their goals. They have nothing to do with Britain or being British. The trouble is this brainwashed psycho sounds British born and bred and his parents or grandparents have probably been totally sound migrants here. That's why he's been used in this way. I think we have to break our own traditions and rules and, since the mosques have failed to police themselves, get in and police Muslim religious organisationa way more tightly. Paradoxically I think it's the only way to preserve religious and political freedom for the rest of us. Anyone who doesn't now believe these lunatic throwbacks hate us and want to destory our way of lives is insanely naive - and if decent British Muslims don't want to get lumped in with this lot, they NOW HAVE to take big strong visible steps to destroy them too. You can have no possible idea if his parents were "totally sound migrants" or not, whatever thats supposed to mean. If I was a betting man though I'd put money on them being one of the more insular migrants. In my mind this can be the only possible reasoning behind them raising a cold blooded murderer.
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Aug 21, 2014 10:35:07 GMT
Mohammed Shafiq, chief executive of the Ramadhan Foundation, said Muslims abhorred terrorists fighting for "evil" Isis.
He told The Independent: "In terms of James Foley, we condemn his death without reservation. We see that as an attack not just on an individual but an attack on everyone. We believe in the sanctity of life and they have distorted Islamic teaching to justify their brutal acts.
"The Koran is very clear about sanctity of life and rules on warfare. Nowhere in those rule does it say anything about beheading people or being barbaric in this way.
"Isis is a barbaric, evil terrorist organisation that needs to be confronted. They don’t represent Islam, it does not represent Muslims or Muslim organisations and they need to be stopped."
In a statement, the Muslim Council of Britain condemned Isis' actions in the Middle East: "Each day ISIS seeks to carry out an act more barbarous than the day before, craving the oxygen of publicity to give credibility to their heinous acts. We condemn unreservedly their psychopathic violence, whether it is on minorities, on civilians, or on fellow Muslims.
"Isis does not speak for Islam, and has been repudiated by all Muslims. Their message only appeals to those who are easily duped by their twisted message purporting to be Islam." Thought this needed putting up before the "kill all muslims" brigade get a hold on this thread.
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Post by wizzardofdribble on Aug 21, 2014 10:52:25 GMT
Once again a whole demographic gets demonised by a minority element. The fact he is a British Muslim makes it no better no worse Absolutely.
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Post by followyoudown on Aug 21, 2014 11:03:55 GMT
The trouble is this brainwashed psycho sounds British born and bred and his parents or grandparents have probably been totally sound migrants here. That's why he's been used in this way. I think we have to break our own traditions and rules and, since the mosques have failed to police themselves, get in and police Muslim religious organisationa way more tightly. Paradoxically I think it's the only way to preserve religious and political freedom for the rest of us. Anyone who doesn't now believe these lunatic throwbacks hate us and want to destory our way of lives is insanely naive - and if decent British Muslims don't want to get lumped in with this lot, they NOW HAVE to take big strong visible steps to destroy them too. You can have no possible idea if his parents were "totally sound migrants" or not, whatever thats supposed to mean. If I was a betting man though I'd put money on them being one of the more insular migrants. In my mind this can be the only possible reasoning behind them raising a cold blooded murderer. Does your “brilliant” psychological analysis and reasoning apply to all parents of murderers ?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2014 11:06:17 GMT
The trouble is this brainwashed psycho sounds British born and bred and his parents or grandparents have probably been totally sound migrants here. That's why he's been used in this way. I think we have to break our own traditions and rules and, since the mosques have failed to police themselves, get in and police Muslim religious organisationa way more tightly. Paradoxically I think it's the only way to preserve religious and political freedom for the rest of us. Anyone who doesn't now believe these lunatic throwbacks hate us and want to destory our way of lives is insanely naive - and if decent British Muslims don't want to get lumped in with this lot, they NOW HAVE to take big strong visible steps to destroy them too. You can have no possible idea if his parents were "totally sound migrants" or not, whatever thats supposed to mean. If I was a betting man though I'd put money on them being one of the more insular migrants. In my mind this can be the only possible reasoning behind them raising a cold blooded murderer. i presume you are aware that there are literally hundreds, no thousands of "Cold blooded murderers" throughout the ages that were brought up by perfectly good, normal, rational people who had no issues or problems with being insular in their societies at all aren't you? or is this kind of presumption on your part only reserved for murderers who happen to be Muslim or migrants as apparently migrants can't be the same kind of people as you, me and everyone else so there must therefore be different reasons for why THEY became "cold blooded murderers". just a lazy and cheap throwaway excuse unless you have anything to back it up really He's a migrant....no he was born and bred British Well, his parents were probably wrong 'uns.....no they were good people Well, er, um, they must have been insular then....how many straws do you want to grab at exactly? the simple fact is that it's not because he's British...it's not because he's muslim....it's because he's a muslim extremist. the nationality of him and his family for generations beforehand is, as salop says, completely irrelevant. don't blame the religion the nutters are hiding behind (all religions have them including christianity), don't blame the country they came from.blame the extremist organisation behind it and the individual that carried out the crime itself otherwise you're simply not dealing with the real problem at all, you're just dressing it up as something else entirely that looks like a quick fix and solving that won't eradicate what's actually the cause in the first place.
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Post by britsabroad on Aug 21, 2014 11:18:25 GMT
Even in this thread there are more people concerned with defending Muslims than condemning these atrocious acts and the people supporting them/carrying them out.
If the general public is more interested in avoiding offence than dealing with a sensitive issue then its only going to get worse.
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Aug 21, 2014 11:42:59 GMT
Even in this thread there are more people concerned with defending Muslims than condemning these atrocious acts and the people supporting them/carrying them out. If the general public is more interested in avoiding offence than dealing with a sensitive issue then its only going to get worse. Care to name names?
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Aug 21, 2014 11:55:36 GMT
Once again a whole demographic gets demonised by a minority element. The fact he is a British Muslim makes it no better no worse Absolutely. Yep...bob on Al.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2014 12:00:19 GMT
Even in this thread there are more people concerned with defending Muslims than condemning these atrocious acts and the people supporting them/carrying them out. If the general public is more interested in avoiding offence than dealing with a sensitive issue then its only going to get worse. who's done that then? no-one at all from what i can see i think the trap you've fallen into is presuming that because some people haven't condemned the ENTIRE Islamic faith that apparently therefore means they're defending muslim extremists which just isn't true at all and extremely duplicitous of you to even suggest that's what people are doing.
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Aug 21, 2014 12:01:29 GMT
Even in this thread there are more people concerned with defending Muslims than condemning these atrocious acts and the people supporting them/carrying them out. If the general public is more interested in avoiding offence than dealing with a sensitive issue then its only going to get worse. who's done that then? no-one at all from what i can see Me neither Mick..he's either stupid or a shit stirrer...
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2014 12:04:09 GMT
who's done that then? no-one at all from what i can see Me neither Mick..he's either stupid or a shit stirrer... judging by another post he's written today (Saying the "sooner Tan fucks off back to Malaysia the better" on the Malky Mackay thread) then i'm going to take a stab at both Huddy
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Post by followyoudown on Aug 21, 2014 12:13:50 GMT
Even in this thread there are more people concerned with defending Muslims than condemning these atrocious acts and the people supporting them/carrying them out. If the general public is more interested in avoiding offence than dealing with a sensitive issue then its only going to get worse. Applying your logic I could assume you are offended by the beheading of an American journalist in Iraq but seem to have been remarkably ambivalent to the killing and in some cases beheading of hundreds if not thousands of iraqi Muslims, Christians and other minorities by the same group as you have stayed silent. I won't as like most sane people i'll assume you're against the murder of people of any creed or colour perhaps you should try the same....
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