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Post by ST1 Stokie on Aug 18, 2014 15:15:20 GMT
I strongly believe that Wilson should not be preffered in front of the iron man that is Robert Huth. However, after being sidelined for most of last season have we seen the best of Huth. often when a player comes back after being sidelined for so long they are only a shadow of their former selves.
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Post by thestatusquo on Aug 18, 2014 15:24:42 GMT
We won't know until we put him back in but he's a far better defender than Wilson and is also a threat at the other end of the pitch.
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Post by maninasuitcase on Aug 18, 2014 15:25:41 GMT
Think you'll find he's a threat to the opposition as well lol.
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Post by jeycov on Aug 18, 2014 17:02:56 GMT
I think he will start in the Portsmouth game next week, on Sunday v Hull, either on the bench or not selected .
He's hardly played alongside Pieters or Muniesa and I don't see MH moving Wilson to LB to accommodate him
Lack of understanding was a big part of our downfall on Saturday imo - e.g. for their goal and the 2 or 3 other clear cut chances that they wasted
I would be tempted to put Muniesa in, if Wilson is dropped to the bench
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Aug 18, 2014 17:33:25 GMT
Post by riccyfuller93 on Aug 18, 2014 17:33:25 GMT
It's funny how before the Villa game everyone was saying how Wilson has been a rock at the back and must start ahead of Huth, now one loss later and people are all saying Huth should come back? Interesting.
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Post by Billybigbollox on Aug 18, 2014 18:03:54 GMT
I prefer Huth to Wilson. I just think he and Ryan have a better understanding of one another. Our defence has definitely looked more fragile since Huth's injury.
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Aug 18, 2014 18:06:10 GMT
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Post by sportsman on Aug 18, 2014 18:06:10 GMT
Wilson did well last season but I don't see him as a rock. Are you looking forward to seeing him up against costa and sturridge? Just got that mistake waiting to happen
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Aug 18, 2014 18:10:29 GMT
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Post by stokemanusa on Aug 18, 2014 18:10:29 GMT
Not going to lie I miss me some "der huthblocken" at the back. We need to get the mean German machine back to full terminator mode in my opinion. I like Wilson but he has quite a few shite moments in a season where watching him you just grab your temples and rub thinking wth did he just do! With Huth I feel safe.
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Aug 18, 2014 18:16:13 GMT
Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2014 18:16:13 GMT
It's funny how before the Villa game everyone was saying how Wilson has been a rock at the back and must start ahead of Huth, now one loss later and people are all saying Huth should come back? Interesting. I bloody didn't. Wilson is an accident waiting to happen. If Huth is fit he plays, its that simple.
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Aug 18, 2014 18:20:09 GMT
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Post by stokemanusa on Aug 18, 2014 18:20:09 GMT
It's funny how before the Villa game everyone was saying how Wilson has been a rock at the back and must start ahead of Huth, now one loss later and people are all saying Huth should come back? Interesting. I bloody didn't. Wilson is an accident waiting to happen. If Huth is fit he plays, its that simple. Same for me. Huth before Wilson everytime for me unless fitness or formation calls for it.
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Aug 18, 2014 18:20:51 GMT
Post by davejohnno1 on Aug 18, 2014 18:20:51 GMT
If Huth's fit, Huth plays. It's that simple. EDIT - Greenhoff...I swear I hadn't seen your post above!
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Aug 18, 2014 18:22:34 GMT
Post by robwahlmann on Aug 18, 2014 18:22:34 GMT
It's funny how before the Villa game everyone was saying how Wilson has been a rock at the back and must start ahead of Huth, now one loss later and people are all saying Huth should come back? Interesting. Not everyone as I'have been saying he wasn't any worse than the others against Villa! Anyway it's a close call betwenn Wilson and Huth, but after last season I really think Wilson deserves more than one chance!
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Aug 18, 2014 21:29:14 GMT
Post by Pretty Little Boother on Aug 18, 2014 21:29:14 GMT
I've always preferred Huth to Wilson.
I'd probably prefer Muniesa to Wilson as well to be honest.
I like him as a LB but am heavily unconvinced at CB.
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Aug 18, 2014 21:39:07 GMT
Post by unknown182 on Aug 18, 2014 21:39:07 GMT
Wilson is not a CB IMO but he does an adequate job. Huth didn't look fit to me when he was training at half time against Villa. Plus him and Shawcross passing between themselves is an accident waiting to happen. The sooner Dionatan "Vincent Kompany" Teixeira gets up to speed the better.
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Aug 18, 2014 21:41:15 GMT
Post by pedro23 on Aug 18, 2014 21:41:15 GMT
I just hope when he does come back he still has it. I am sure he won't have the lost hard man part, but he will need more than that if he is going to stay in the team. I agree with the earlier post, pretty much everyone was picking Wilson before Huth last Saturday, now that's all changed after the 1 game. If he comes back for the next match, for his sake he better have a good one, otherwise I reckon the knives will be well and truly out. We have a squad now where there is cover in pretty much every position, so one bad game for someone and the cries will be for replacements, Jesus 37 games to go.
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Aug 18, 2014 22:03:41 GMT
Post by binthelplates on Aug 18, 2014 22:03:41 GMT
We won't know until we put him back in but he's a far better defender than Wilson and is also a threat at the other end of the pitch. Think 'was a better defender' would be more appropriate, remains to be seen if it still the same. It's a long way back from such a lay off , going to be difficult to judge until he's had a dozen games. Maybe other players ahead of Huth in the pecking order ?
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Aug 18, 2014 23:13:34 GMT
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Post by ayem on Aug 18, 2014 23:13:34 GMT
MH won't pull wilson until he's fully out of form. While I want huth in, its best to let wilson go and gain composure against hull.
I think Pieters and bardsley played a little to high and that disrupted our defense. Relying on Whelan and Nzonzi to keep back and have forward play made for some hoof ball where itwasn't needed.
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Aug 18, 2014 23:26:15 GMT
Post by iglugluk on Aug 18, 2014 23:26:15 GMT
Huth for me...if he's properly fit that is. I said this on a thread (entitled "Huth") I started after the Villa game on Saturday in fact and I still haven't changed my mind. No disrespect to Wilson but I remain of the opinion that Huth is the better defender.
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Aug 19, 2014 0:43:19 GMT
Post by potterpaul on Aug 19, 2014 0:43:19 GMT
The problem you have with both Huth and Wilson is that they have to start, they are a waste of a bench spot. Both Muniesa and Cameron can cover FB an CB positions if injuries occur whereas Huth particularly, but also Wilson can only cover CB position. ( I know some believe Wilson can cover both FB positions but not in a MH team). If it was a choice between Huth and Wilson I'd probably plug for Huth but saying that Muniesa is the future and I'd prefer him to settle in ASAP
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Aug 19, 2014 8:40:09 GMT
Post by dozintheseventees on Aug 19, 2014 8:40:09 GMT
I bloody didn't. Wilson is an accident waiting to happen. If Huth is fit he plays, its that simple. Same for me. Huth before Wilson everytime for me unless fitness or formation calls for it. I said this a couple of weeks ago but, to be fair, we don't really know the state of his fitness or see what the manager sees day to day. I'd love Huth to get back to full fitness and be the player we all know and love. We're just not in a position to know if he's ready to return yet so it might not simply be a case of Hughes preferring Wilson to him but of Hughes feeling Huth isn't 'there' yet. Huth, at his best, is a vastly better defender than Wilson.
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Aug 19, 2014 19:22:20 GMT
Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2014 19:22:20 GMT
I prefer Wilson. Probably because no one else does. I think people are too harsh on him.
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Post by stokiejoe on Aug 19, 2014 19:26:13 GMT
Huh for me and I said it before the Villa game. Still saying it now
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Post by prudhoe on Aug 19, 2014 19:30:42 GMT
Wilson is Danny Pugh mk2. Jack of all trades, master of none. He is ok at left back, he is ok at centre back, he is ok in midfield. He isn't brilliant anywhere. Wilson should be a bench man providing cover for me.
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Post by Miles Offside on Aug 19, 2014 19:35:14 GMT
It's funny how before the Villa game everyone was saying how Wilson has been a rock at the back and must start ahead of Huth, now one loss later and people are all saying Huth should come back? Interesting. We do a lot of that kind of thing on here
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Aug 19, 2014 22:38:57 GMT
Post by ************** on Aug 19, 2014 22:38:57 GMT
Sorry Huth fans but Muniesa is the way forward for us. Has to be.
Wilson seems mobile and has good feet, but in reality he turns like an oil tanker, that's why we used to see those cheeky Cruyff drag backs when he was at LB - can't turn. I don't want to see that stunt being pulled at CB and he will do it, he's also a bit prone to dropping bollocks now and then.
My main qualm with Huth is the Shawcross/Huth partnership. They've been immense in the past, of course. However, two mighty oaks at the back is not the right pairing for this new side.
Muni forming a new partnership with Ryan feels right. I'm sure once Sparky get the forwards firing we'll see the rise of Muniesa/Shawcross as the first choice pairing.
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Aug 19, 2014 22:42:38 GMT
Post by metalhead on Aug 19, 2014 22:42:38 GMT
I wouldn't rush him back, but if we're a goal up at half time against Hull, why not give him 45 minutes... or is that risky?
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Aug 19, 2014 22:42:58 GMT
Post by stokeypieman on Aug 19, 2014 22:42:58 GMT
I feel Huth's strength is his ability to read the game from a defensive point of view, so with the right fitness he will be as good as he was
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Post by Olgrligm on Aug 19, 2014 22:46:15 GMT
Huth or Muniesa for me. Wilson has always felt like a stop gap, even if he did well enough at the tail end of last season.
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Aug 20, 2014 5:49:26 GMT
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Post by malteser68 on Aug 20, 2014 5:49:26 GMT
I would really give Cameron a chance in the centre half position alongside Ryan. He's big and strong but also comfortable on the ball. I thought he performed excellently in the WC so why not give him a try ?
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Aug 20, 2014 7:05:40 GMT
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Post by timbo1988 on Aug 20, 2014 7:05:40 GMT
Sorry Huth fans but Muniesa is the way forward for us. Has to be. Wilson seems mobile and has good feet, but in reality he turns like an oil tanker, that's why we used to see those cheeky Cruyff drag backs when he was at LB - can't turn. I don't want to see that stunt being pulled at CB and he will do it, he's also a bit prone to dropping bollocks now and then. My main qualm with Huth is the Shawcross/Huth partnership. They've been immense in the past, of course. However, two mighty oaks at the back is not the right pairing for this new side. Muni forming a new partnership with Ryan feels right. I'm sure once Sparky get the forwards firing we'll see the rise of Muniesa/Shawcross as the first choice pairing. Not tall enough! Think everton when Lukaku plays against him he will bully him all day! Has to be Huth! Cameron was at fault for USA for 2 goals and kilnsmann dropped him!
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