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Ebola
Oct 9, 2014 19:35:37 GMT
Post by Clem Fandango on Oct 9, 2014 19:35:37 GMT
Hollywood has a lot to answer for here!! as has been pointed out....incredibly hard to contract (not airborne in any way despite what films would have you believe) and quite easy to treat in first world countries. the reason for the amount of deaths in Africa is simply down to a complete lack of facilities, drugs and money to counter the problem. for us lucky people who live in less deprived areas of the world there really isn't much at all to be concerned about.... apart from why we aren't doing more to help those in parts of the world where it IS a genuine concern!Seems like we are doing summat, sent the troops in. I shouldn't be too facetious, but what the heck can the army achieve? Unless it's a spot of germ warfare practice. It couldn't be that we are deploying troops to get some sort of practice in assisting quarantine efforts just incase we need to perform the same sort of thing with a domestic outbreak? Probably nothing of the sort.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 9, 2014 19:41:35 GMT
Modern day plague?
People in power need to get a grip of this and fast. Something just isn't right and is not making sense.
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Ebola
Oct 10, 2014 11:37:16 GMT
Post by Widget123 on Oct 10, 2014 11:37:16 GMT
So now a nurse or nurses have it - despite the protective clothing.... Still happy to repeat the lines we are being fed ? Nurse has been quoted as having remembered that she touched her face in the clean room with her gloves. Its possible that she's been really unlucky in the same way that you can sneeze and touch your eye without washing your hands and contract an eye infection. It must be truly horrible working in the areas in Africa where the disease is spreading but the spread is mostly down to lack of education and the utter lack of facilities to deal with the outbreak. If it happened here those unfortunate enough to be infected would be placed under quarantine quickly and the infection vectors quickly locked down. Sadly in Africa people are nursing their loved ones in the home without any of the sanitation and protection they need prior to being moved to field hospitals set up by the government and aid agencies by which time the vectors for the spread of the disease are already wide open. Its really sad and obvious that a lot of African people are going to die because of this - however the chances of a wider scale / Spanish Flu type spread are almost non existent as the disease isn't airbourne what ever the alarmists in Texas/Madrid/etc believe having watched a Dustin Hoffman film nearly 20 years ago.
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Ebola
Oct 10, 2014 11:57:10 GMT
Post by craig67 on Oct 10, 2014 11:57:10 GMT
Obviously it's far more deadly disease than flu in terms of mortality I think you should check history and recent flu epidemics before making such wild assumptions. Spanish Flu killed millions more in the 1910-1920's than WW1 ever did. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1918_flu_pandemicEven now we see flu epidemics killing millions every few years.Why do you think we have massive drives to inoculate people against the flu every year.
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Ebola
Oct 10, 2014 12:04:39 GMT
Post by block27row27 on Oct 10, 2014 12:04:39 GMT
Although of course it would be a terrible blight on society, the thought of an epidemic is kind of exciting.
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Ebola
Oct 10, 2014 17:23:29 GMT
Post by Deleted on Oct 10, 2014 17:23:29 GMT
Can't understand why an uninhabited island, could not be set up with a top hospital and care centre to care for these people whilst they recover. Ill patients should be kept away from all countries to decrease the chance of it spreading. The slow reaction by the government has left me a little dissappointed. They made a u-turn to sreen passengers entering the country, when they should have already put these in place. Makes you wonder how much politicians care about the people.
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Ebola
Oct 10, 2014 22:47:01 GMT
Post by kidcrewbob on Oct 10, 2014 22:47:01 GMT
Screening incoming passengers at UK airports is too feckin late - oh sir has a temperature and is bleeding from his eyes having been sat for four hours sending his shit vapours, snot, sweat an phlegm into the recycled air con with 300 others in a closed sardine can - welcome to The UK - off you go to our already overburdened NHS at massive expense and risk to the very people we will expect to look after us come the hour come the day....
We should immediately close the borders, ports and airports to any incoming flights from west Africa and anyone going out doesn't come back until they've done 4 weeks quarantine under our military supervision
I should be in this feckin COBRA me,,,,!!!
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Ebola
Oct 11, 2014 6:57:21 GMT
via mobile
Post by starkiller on Oct 11, 2014 6:57:21 GMT
670,000 people die of malaria each year in Africa.
Just to get the current media hysteria into context.
Nice little earner for the pharmaceutical corporations - just like bird/swine flu that miraculously seemed to disappear without trace.
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Post by RichieBarkerOut! on Oct 11, 2014 7:25:28 GMT
Can't understand why an uninhabited island, could not be set up with a top hospital and care centre to care for these people whilst they recover. Ill patients should be kept away from all countries to decrease the chance of it spreading. The slow reaction by the government has left me a little dissappointed. They made a u-turn to sreen passengers entering the country, when they should have already put these in place. Makes you wonder how much politicians care about the people. Agreed. Once the uninhabited island has been selected, cleared of vegetation/animals, workers could move in to build an international airport and hospital and roads etc. Ideally, the island should have another island nearby to accommodate the doctors, nursing staff, cooks, cleaners plane mechanics and electricity plant engineers etc. Each country should also build their own special Ebola airports to keep the infected away from us. The sooner UKIP get in, the better.
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Ebola
Oct 11, 2014 10:20:30 GMT
Post by Deleted on Oct 11, 2014 10:20:30 GMT
Not sure how long it would take before your temperature would start to increase after catching the virus, but it would take longer than a few hours on a plane surely. Could people coming into the country from africa be given a wrist band or something with a temperature gauge on it, maybe like a tag. People could then keep a check on their temperature just to be safe, or they could be forced to buy one as they get their plane ticket or however they travel here. They could then have it removed after a few weeks. This idea could probably make a lot of money too.
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Ebola
Oct 11, 2014 10:23:31 GMT
Post by RichieBarkerOut! on Oct 11, 2014 10:23:31 GMT
There must be a ton of those Lance Armstrong Livestrong bracelets around, that could be converted into temperature monitoring devices.
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Ebola
Oct 12, 2014 22:52:39 GMT
Post by estrangedsonoffaye on Oct 12, 2014 22:52:39 GMT
Obviously it's far more deadly disease than flu in terms of mortality I think you should check history and recent flu epidemics before making such wild assumptions. Spanish Flu killed millions more in the 1910-1920's than WW1 ever did. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1918_flu_pandemicEven now we see flu epidemics killing millions every few years.Why do you think we have massive drives to inoculate people against the flu every year. I meant in terms of mortality rates. The influenza outbreak after the war had a mortality rate of 10%, which is extremely high, Ebola is way over 50%. Now imagine that kind of rate for those who catch flu every year. But that is Ebola's downfall, it's like a forest fire, in the majority of outbreaks it burns itself out way before it reaches the pandemic stage. I'm well aware of the need for inoculation as I happen to work in this field!
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Ebola
Oct 12, 2014 23:06:08 GMT
Post by estrangedsonoffaye on Oct 12, 2014 23:06:08 GMT
So now a nurse or nurses have it - despite the protective clothing.... Still happy to repeat the lines we are being fed ? Which didn't meet WHO standards.
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Ebola
Oct 13, 2014 16:34:41 GMT
Post by redstriper on Oct 13, 2014 16:34:41 GMT
So now a nurse or nurses have it - despite the protective clothing.... Still happy to repeat the lines we are being fed ? Which didn't meet WHO standards. Ah, right... We are being told its difficult to catch, yet now two people in different countries who had had training and full protective clothing have managed to catch it. hmm. The risks may still be relatively low, but the facts say they are a fair bit higher than what we are being told.
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Ebola
Oct 14, 2014 12:09:44 GMT
Post by Deleted on Oct 14, 2014 12:09:44 GMT
Although of course it would be a terrible blight on society, the thought of an epidemic is kind of exciting. you are one sick fuck. would you find it exciting if one of your family or relatives contracted this fatal disease??
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Ebola
Oct 14, 2014 12:12:52 GMT
Post by Deleted on Oct 14, 2014 12:12:52 GMT
nobody seems to know how infectious ebola is.some are saying its not airborn i would prefer to err on the safe side.imo they should lock down africa until this fatal disease has been eradicated.i know its not pc but drastic times need drastic measures
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Ebola
Oct 14, 2014 12:16:17 GMT
Post by Deleted on Oct 14, 2014 12:16:17 GMT
nobody seems to know how infectious ebola is.some are saying its not airborn i would prefer to err on the safe side.imo they should lock down africa until this fatal disease has been eradicated.i know its not pc but drastic times need drastic measures Hi. You still en route, or are u here now....we in Sportsman Soi 13...Stokie runs it, real good guy...
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Ebola
Oct 14, 2014 12:22:30 GMT
Post by block27row27 on Oct 14, 2014 12:22:30 GMT
Although of course it would be a terrible blight on society, the thought of an epidemic is kind of exciting. you are one sick fuck. would you find it exciting if one of your family or relatives contracted this fatal disease?? I didn't mean it in a spiteful way, I meant it in the same way that a Zombie apocalypse would be exciting. Or is that sick as well as most of the human race would be eradicated?
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Post by starkiller on Oct 14, 2014 20:20:35 GMT
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Ebola
Oct 14, 2014 20:26:49 GMT
Post by salopstick on Oct 14, 2014 20:26:49 GMT
Starkiller in posting facts shocker
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Post by ChiefWiggum on Oct 14, 2014 22:58:04 GMT
Dele went to the doctor.
Dele Adebola..
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Post by estrangedsonoffaye on Oct 15, 2014 1:31:45 GMT
nobody seems to know how infectious ebola is.some are saying its not airborn i would prefer to err on the safe side.imo they should lock down africa until this fatal disease has been eradicated.i know its not pc but drastic times need drastic measures It is not airbourne we've known about it since 1976 and it's well documented that transmission between humans is only achievable via transfer of fluids be it saliva, semen or sweat. If it was airbourne we'd have a lot more cases than we presently do. Locking down an entire continent would only exacerbate the issue, you'd restrict aid, you'd limit the opportunity to study the virus (essential) and more importantly you'd cause an economic meltdown in an already unstable area probably triggering anarchy. Times like this require cool and cold calculation, panic and extreme actions will only make this worse.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2014 17:15:49 GMT
nobody seems to know how infectious ebola is.some are saying its not airborn i would prefer to err on the safe side.imo they should lock down africa until this fatal disease has been eradicated.i know its not pc but drastic times need drastic measures It is not airbourne we've known about it since 1976 and it's well documented that transmission between humans is only achievable via transfer of fluids be it saliva, semen or sweat. If it was airbourne we'd have a lot more cases than we presently do. Locking down an entire continent would only exacerbate the issue, you'd restrict aid, you'd limit the opportunity to study the virus (essential) and more importantly you'd cause an economic meltdown in an already unstable area probably triggering anarchy. Times like this require cool and cold calculation, panic and extreme actions will only make this worse. how sure are you that it is not airborn? would you like to sit next to someone on a plane who appears to be infected? like i said before drastic times require drastic measures.fuck pc
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Ebola
Oct 15, 2014 20:14:22 GMT
Post by estrangedsonoffaye on Oct 15, 2014 20:14:22 GMT
It is not airbourne we've known about it since 1976 and it's well documented that transmission between humans is only achievable via transfer of fluids be it saliva, semen or sweat. If it was airbourne we'd have a lot more cases than we presently do. Locking down an entire continent would only exacerbate the issue, you'd restrict aid, you'd limit the opportunity to study the virus (essential) and more importantly you'd cause an economic meltdown in an already unstable area probably triggering anarchy. Times like this require cool and cold calculation, panic and extreme actions will only make this worse. how sure are you that it is not airborn? would you like to sit next to someone on a plane who appears to be infected? like i said before drastic times require drastic measures.fuck pc There's this little organisation called the World Health Organisation that know. Of course I'd not want to sit next to someone who appear infected, as it's highly likely I'd touch them and contract it via sweat or saliva. That's human contact transmission via fluid. Airbourne transmission occurs when the virus "lives" for often months outside a host, such as influenza. If you sneeze onto a tissue and have flu, it can live on the tissue for months without a human host. How do you lock down a continent anyway? It's not feasible, 90% of Africa isn't infected. This is dreadful outbreak, which will be overcome by professionals, the aid we send will end it far more quickly than if we didn't.
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