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Post by PONTAFCE on Jul 31, 2014 12:50:08 GMT
We don't need Ronaldinho as he wouldn't bring anything to the club apart from money on shirts just like Owen did.
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Post by Kjones9 on Jul 31, 2014 13:06:03 GMT
With only 12 games played out of 38 he didn't really basically take them down did he? Not sure what 'really basically' means but basically he really was responsible. He put together an atrocious side and then failed to win a single game out of 12. By his own admission he was at fault with the players he bought in. I believe he's learnt from that disaster though and is a much better manager because of it. He didn't really,,, Basically take them down. Was he partly responsible,? Yes, but there was still 2/3 of the season left (ala tone last year). The QPR side that we faced at home that season under Hughes were far superior than the team we faced at loftus road under Harry.
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Post by larstoke on Jul 31, 2014 13:16:32 GMT
ITK people: is there anything at all in the ronaldinho link? Not that I have heard no, but I am not told everything cheers! just realized I posted that in the wrong thread;(
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Post by stokeyank on Jul 31, 2014 13:18:12 GMT
Three possibilities...
Magical Season - Team quickly gels, Bojan's confidence soars, Diouf and Arnie feed off of him, defense settles and we get some lucky breaks. 5th place.
Doom's Day - Injuries hit, squad becomes unsettled because everyone wants game time, Diouf does nothing, Bojan wilts under pressure, N'Zonzi and Arnie go mad, defense can't stay settled. Season in the toilet, relegated.
Realistically - A few ups and downs in a usual football season. Plenty of good games and ugly games. Finish 8th - 15th.
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Post by marrer on Jul 31, 2014 13:20:07 GMT
Fuck that, - 6th. Too much bloody negativity on here. It's going to be a blinder. Get ready. The 14 teams below us can talk about pessimism on their boards but not me.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 31, 2014 13:36:04 GMT
I was there on the 6th Feb 1978
The scars still exist
We're doomed I tell ye. Doomed.
This is, after all Stoke City Football Club
GD
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Post by senojbor on Jul 31, 2014 14:15:19 GMT
I never really feared relegation under Pulis and don't now. If we capitalise on what should be decent start we will surprise a few people.
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Post by Pugsley on Jul 31, 2014 14:25:42 GMT
I've said this before when Pulis was in charge and it rngs true now for Hughes. Only mismanagement on an unprecedented scale would see us relegated. We spent big in the past, we've signed some good players recently, we've got money to buy more players and the league is rammed full of shit teams.
Look onwards and upwards.
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Post by lurcherman on Jul 31, 2014 14:38:14 GMT
Anyone barring the top half a dozen teams could end up in a relegation battle. I just hope the new signings settle in and there's not a disruption to our team spirit and effort. We could have another blinder of a season or it could just as easily go tits up.
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Post by dobing1863 on Aug 1, 2014 6:23:21 GMT
I have more confidence with management we have now,although things can go wrong,I think we are going to have a very good season.
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Post by lordb on Aug 1, 2014 8:03:47 GMT
A draw and two losses away is making me feel optimistic
Because pre-season is always a good barometer.....
I N D O C T R I N A T I O N
You really believe that people think this way because Pulis used to be our manager? Check out any message board of any non glamour club and you will find there a similar points of views expressed. And yet Tony hasn't managed them. Get a life,stop posting this rubbish that people can't think for themselves because of TP ,start posting about Stoke without going on about TP,if you can. Go on,try it. One post that isn't,t about him - can you ?
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Post by Pugsley on Aug 1, 2014 17:28:28 GMT
Because pre-season is always a good barometer.....
I N D O C T R I N A T I O N
You really believe that people think this way because Pulis used to be our manager? Check out any message board of any non glamour club and you will find there a similar points of views expressed. And yet Tony hasn't managed them. Get a life,stop posting this rubbish that people can't think for themselves because of TP ,start posting about Stoke without going on about TP,if you can. Go on,try it. One post that isn't,t about him - can you ? I really do believe it yes because the posts come from dyed in the wool rimmers (see the people who have 'liked' your post) The type of people who believed he could do no wrong and whatever he said was gospel. I've posted plenty that has nothing to do with him but I like to return to my favourite subject so i'll post what I want, whether you read it is your choice. OK with that chumley?
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Post by prem4stoke on Aug 1, 2014 17:41:59 GMT
You really believe that people think this way because Pulis used to be our manager? Check out any message board of any non glamour club and you will find there a similar points of views expressed. And yet Tony hasn't managed them. Get a life,stop posting this rubbish that people can't think for themselves because of TP ,start posting about Stoke without going on about TP,if you can. Go on,try it. One post that isn't,t about him - can you ? I really do believe it yes because the posts come from dyed in the wool rimmers (see the people who have 'liked' your post) Â The type of people who believed he could do no wrong and whatever he said was gospel. I've posted plenty that has nothing to do with him but I like to return to my favourite subject so i'll post what I want, whether you read it is your choice. Â OK with that chumley? He is right my point was absolutely nothing to do with Pulis, it was based on our pre season thus far nothing more nothing less.
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Post by Pugsley on Aug 1, 2014 17:45:28 GMT
I really do believe it yes because the posts come from dyed in the wool rimmers (see the people who have 'liked' your post) The type of people who believed he could do no wrong and whatever he said was gospel. I've posted plenty that has nothing to do with him but I like to return to my favourite subject so i'll post what I want, whether you read it is your choice. OK with that chumley? He is right my point was absolutely nothing to do with Pulis, it was based on our pre season thus far nothing more nothing less. Mindset mate, mindset.
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Post by Kjones9 on Aug 1, 2014 17:46:09 GMT
I really do believe it yes because the posts come from dyed in the wool rimmers (see the people who have 'liked' your post) Â The type of people who believed he could do no wrong and whatever he said was gospel. I've posted plenty that has nothing to do with him but I like to return to my favourite subject so i'll post what I want, whether you read it is your choice. Â OK with that chumley? He is right my point was absolutely nothing to do with Pulis, it was based on our pre season thus far nothing more nothing less. Have you got any statistics to show that a bad pre season leads to a bad season then?
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Post by The Drunken Communist on Aug 1, 2014 17:49:27 GMT
I really do believe it yes because the posts come from dyed in the wool rimmers (see the people who have 'liked' your post) I 'liked' his post, but I never thought I was a 'dyed in the wool rimmer'. I thought Pulis did a great job here, but it never meant I wasn't fearful that we could fuck it up & get relegated. Likewise I think Hughes has done (And hopefully continues to do) a great job, but again it doesn't mean I'm not fearful that it could all fuck up. We could have Alex Ferguson, Jose Mourinho or Erasurebot1000 as our manager, it still wouldn't change my opinion that we should never get too far ahead of ourselves 'cos we're Stoke & we always have a habbit of fucking it up.
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Post by prem4stoke on Aug 1, 2014 17:56:00 GMT
He is right my point was absolutely nothing to do with Pulis, it was based on our pre season thus far nothing more nothing less. Have you got any statistics to show that a bad pre season leads to a bad season then? No but then again it is our players playing should I be basing it on other teams? A good win tomorrow would be good.
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Post by lordb on Aug 1, 2014 18:03:42 GMT
You really believe that people think this way because Pulis used to be our manager? Check out any message board of any non glamour club and you will find there a similar points of views expressed. And yet Tony hasn't managed them. Get a life,stop posting this rubbish that people can't think for themselves because of TP ,start posting about Stoke without going on about TP,if you can. Go on,try it. One post that isn't,t about him - can you ? I really do believe it yes because the posts come from dyed in the wool rimmers (see the people who have 'liked' your post) The type of people who believed he could do no wrong and whatever he said was gospel. I've posted plenty that has nothing to do with him but I like to return to my favourite subject so i'll post what I want, whether you read it is your choice. OK with that chumley? So that's a no then.... Any one who thinks TP could do no wrong is I think daft. May I suggest the opposite is also true.
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Post by Kjones9 on Aug 1, 2014 18:33:38 GMT
Have you got any statistics to show that a bad pre season leads to a bad season then? No but then again it is our players playing should I be basing it on other teams? A good win tomorrow would be good. What's other teams got to do with it? Haven't stoke had any pre seasons before?
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Post by prem4stoke on Aug 1, 2014 22:43:12 GMT
No but then again it is our players playing should I be basing it on other teams? A good win tomorrow would be good. What's other teams got to do with it? Haven't stoke had any pre seasons before? I hope your not being serious
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Post by onionman on Aug 2, 2014 3:13:27 GMT
I really do believe it yes because the posts come from dyed in the wool rimmers (see the people who have 'liked' your post) I 'liked' his post, but I never thought I was a 'dyed in the wool rimmer'. I thought Pulis did a great job here, but it never meant I wasn't fearful that we could fuck it up & get relegated. Likewise I think Hughes has done (And hopefully continues to do) a great job, but again it doesn't mean I'm not fearful that it could all fuck up. We could have Alex Ferguson, Jose Mourinho or Erasurebot1000 as our manager, it still wouldn't change my opinion that we should never get too far ahead of ourselves 'cos we're Stoke & we always have a habbit of fucking it up. When Walters scored our 5th goal against Bolton in the cup semi-final, my first thought was, oh fuck, imagine how much this is going to sting if there's a storm of such unprecedented proportions that the old Butler Street roof blows back to life and swirls all the way to Wembley and lands on the ref's head, and the game has to be abandoned like that time against Oldham in the 70s, and we'll lose the rematch, because Ethers has torn his hamstring by then, and Pennant will be in the pub, and Kenwyne will be busy lying on the couch, and Danny Pugh will have to play,and oh God it will be terrible. And that's nothing to do with me being a dyed in the wool rimmer, it's called being a Stoke fan.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 2, 2014 14:08:18 GMT
I was there on the 6th Feb 1978
The scars still exist
We're doomed I tell ye. Doomed.
This is, after all Stoke City Football Club
GD I was there too but I am still convinced that even that side with a few injuries thrown in would still finish above the likes of burnley,villa,swansea now we are guaranteed to be on zero points come xmas
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Post by Deleted on Aug 2, 2014 14:10:52 GMT
He is right my point was absolutely nothing to do with Pulis, it was based on our pre season thus far nothing more nothing less. Have you got any statistics to show that a bad pre season leads to a bad season then? do you remember when we did a pre season tour of one of the Scandinavian countries and won every game by about 5 or 6 goals? I do
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Post by Kjones9 on Aug 2, 2014 14:17:10 GMT
Have you got any statistics to show that a bad pre season leads to a bad season then? do you remember when we did a pre season tour of one of the Scandinavian countries and won every game by about 5 or 6 goals? I do I remember us beating Newcastle town about 8 nil and Greenacre scoring quite a few of them.
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Post by Stafford-Stokie on Aug 2, 2014 14:22:09 GMT
And still the sad fucks try and twist things to slag off Mr Pulis. Bless.
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