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Post by Deleted on Jul 22, 2014 13:18:10 GMT
Do people think every game would be subsidised? They would do like the others clubs do, and make our lowest attendance games cheaper eg sunderland away whereas free travel affects every game. Stop moaning. Then they would moan about having to pay to travel to games
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Post by Pugsley on Jul 22, 2014 13:40:06 GMT
I agree clubs should consult us, It just appears like people are lambasting the club when in my eyes they're doing more than most clubs with this away fans fund. I never used the official coaches last year, I do intend on using them for the spurs game this season though. I just feel saving £5 here and there isn't as beneficial as saving £20+ on most away games that some fans will gain. What I'll save on the spurs game travel is more than what I could class as my share of the fans fund.
As long as you're alright jack, eh?
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Post by joedog on Jul 22, 2014 13:51:21 GMT
Hands up ! Who wants to take the missus on a 4n arf our trip to Swansea, sitting with people who you don't know ? No singing, and 2 seats together if lucky? Say from bentilee. Taxi there, taxi back because you have no car. Free it may be. But that's all.
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Post by miltonstokie on Jul 22, 2014 13:54:53 GMT
Hands up ! Who wants to take the missus on a 4n arf our trip to Swansea, sitting with people who you don't know ? No singing, and 2 seats together if lucky? Say from bentilee. Taxi there, taxi back because you have no car. Free it may be. But that's all. Hands up?! haha .. Not on your coach now Joe. Personally wouldn't take my Mrs anywhere near a football match
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Post by joedog on Jul 22, 2014 14:03:12 GMT
Just a example bud, my bus, train, car. People should have a choice ? Not be held to randsom. Loads didn't travel to games last season if I didn't do a bus, club travel is shit and family orientated. I only take 1,Woody only 1,mik from longton has packed in. Most have packedin ttravelling away. That's official. They have now got used to not going. The club not interested in listening to other views. Sad really.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 22, 2014 14:09:53 GMT
People do have a choice, use free bus or pay and get their by your own means.
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Post by thebet365 on Jul 22, 2014 14:17:12 GMT
I agree clubs should consult us, It just appears like people are lambasting the club when in my eyes they're doing more than most clubs with this away fans fund. I never used the official coaches last year, I do intend on using them for the spurs game this season though. I just feel saving £5 here and there isn't as beneficial as saving £20+ on most away games that some fans will gain. What I'll save on the spurs game travel is more than what I could class as my share of the fans fund.
As long as you're alright jack, eh?
It's got sod all to do with that sort of attitude. I've never used official travel before, I'd rather make a day of things and enjoy a few beers, but when It's gonna save me in the region of £50 as I'm taking my lad I can't ignore it. If they subsidise every away game and you went everyone you'd struggle to save that much. As somebody mentioned last season, there's nothing stopping the away club hiking there price a bit if they know Stoke are planning on subsidising it.
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Post by Pugsley on Jul 22, 2014 14:35:40 GMT
As long as you're alright jack, eh?
It's got sod all to do with that sort of attitude. I've never used official travel before, I'd rather make a day of things and enjoy a few beers, but when It's gonna save me in the region of £50 as I'm taking my lad I can't ignore it. If they subsidise every away game and you went everyone you'd struggle to save that much. As somebody mentioned last season, there's nothing stopping the away club hiking there price a bit if they know Stoke are planning on subsidising it. I, I, I
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Post by foreverredandwhite on Jul 22, 2014 14:48:55 GMT
So what youre saying is you have the chance to save £20 but are choosing not to take it, therefore its your fault youre not saving the money, not the clubs!!!! The club is offering something that's of no use to me so how is that my fault? I travel by the train as it has toilets,you can stretch your legs and have a drink if you so desire and as a grown man I make the choice that is right for me. You also get to see new places you haven't seen before the coaches normally go straight to the venue so like I said discounted match day tickets reward ALL not some. The fact is that you have chosen not to take advantage of the clubs money saving scheme. This isn't the clubs fault is it? Its your own choice!
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Post by Squeekster on Jul 22, 2014 15:00:21 GMT
The club is offering something that's of no use to me so how is that my fault? I travel by the train as it has toilets,you can stretch your legs and have a drink if you so desire and as a grown man I make the choice that is right for me. You also get to see new places you haven't seen before the coaches normally go straight to the venue so like I said discounted match day tickets reward ALL not some. The fact is that you have chosen not to take advantage of the clubs money saving scheme. This isn't the clubs fault is it? Its your own choice! Exactly my choice not the clubs mine. Discounted tickets is the only solution where all travelling fans will benefit full stop regardless of any thing else!
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Post by Paul Spencer on Jul 22, 2014 15:05:13 GMT
Just a example bud, my bus, train, car. People should have a choice ? Not be held to randsom. Loads didn't travel to games last season if I didn't do a bus, club travel is shit and family orientated. I only take 1,Woody only 1,mik from longton has packed in. Most have packedin ttravelling away. That's official. They have now got used to not going. The club not interested in listening to other views. Sad really. This is an interesting post because there is a school of thought that suggests that a lot of supporters have stopped travelling to away games BECAUSE (and specifically) of the free travel offered by the club. The thought process is this ... that a lot of regular travellers wouldn't ever dream of travelling on official coaches, however many of the un official coaches have stopped operating, meaning that supporters who have for years traditionally always travelled on coach 'x' have now got out of the habit of travelling because coach 'x' doesn't operate any more. How much this has actually impacted on numbers in real terms I have no idea and it might be nothing more than minimal but it's an interesting theory nevertheless.
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Post by Stafford-Stokie on Jul 22, 2014 15:32:30 GMT
Well I have saved well over 200 quid by not buying anything from the club and cancelling the potters foundation membership. They will get fuck all from me but my st money until they treat ALL supporters the same. Fuck them!
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Post by RF10 on Jul 22, 2014 15:39:21 GMT
Very happy with this decision. Well done Stoke.
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Post by robinreliant on Jul 22, 2014 15:47:10 GMT
Maybe they should consider reinstating differing levels of membership, such as Platinum Plus and their Platinum bus ?
Joking aside, there have been very good points made in this thread, which centre around the club making the decisions which are easiest and cheapest to administer.
Let's not forget that it was left up to each club exactly how to implement the £200K Fan's Fund !
If I were Stoke, I too would publicise what a great club I was, giving free away travel to every supporter who bought an away ticket; it's just unfortunate that, like other of their wonderful schemes, it's subject to so many terms and conditions that it doesn't actually benefit the actual fans it was mean to.
Buying away tickets online gives no option to request/select a free travel ticket, and hence the efficiency of online purchase is negated by the need to phone or go in person to the Ticket Office to claim your seat(s).
One day common sense will prevail, but for the present we're left to debate what could have been.
Someone has previously summed it up in the phrase: Premier League on the pitch, Championship off it !
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Post by lancer on Jul 22, 2014 18:11:32 GMT
Regardless of how the club had decided to offer fans something, there would always be those who wanted something else. The fact that free away travel is being offered, does not mean that had it not offered, match day tickets would have been reduced enough to satify some, and if they had, there would still be some who favoured free away travel. Ce la vie.I hope to be availing myself of free away travel.
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Post by chadam on Jul 22, 2014 19:50:29 GMT
Surely the best idea is to use the money to subsidise ticket prices and offer free travel, not at the same time but depending on the game.
For example, the club could offer free travel for games like Sunderland and Newcastle as the travel costs would be large for these games but perhaps the ticket prices wouldn't be too excessive, surely the club could arrange to arrive a few hours before kick off and drop the fans off at a location ready to accommodate the needs of a mass away following (A few pubs basically).
Then for games like Villa and Man City where the games are relatively close geographically so travel costs are low but they rinse you with high ticket prices the club could subsidise ticket prices.
And finally for games like West Brom where it's an overall cheap away day, the club could actually use none of the funds as it would make more sense to use the money to subsidise the costs of more expensive games even more.
I think that makes sense but the club will never do it because it would require them to actually be pro active and logical.
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Post by Squeekster on Jul 22, 2014 19:53:45 GMT
I think it's it pretty simple cheaper tickets benefits every single fan that attends away games every single one!
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Post by JetBlack on Jul 22, 2014 21:34:10 GMT
Well I'll give it a go this season, couldn't give a toss if it pisses some of you off either. Well done. Don't forget to pack ya picnic. Zzzzz I'll let you know how I went on. I've never used it before so it will be a whole new experience. I just hope it's not as bad as some are saying. I don't get the picnic reference...
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Post by robinreliant on Jul 22, 2014 22:00:41 GMT
Well done. Don't forget to pack ya picnic. Zzzzz I'll let you know how I went on. I've never used it before so it will be a whole new experience. I just hope it's not as bad as some are saying. I don't get the picnic reference... Try to get on Coach One: you'll have a ball. They're partial to a Werther's Original, so pack a bag to pass around; it'll be the perfect icebreaker! Oh and remember change for the in-flight competition (50p) and something to tip the driver (20 to 25p is sufficient). No smiling, singing or general expressions of merriment, and get there 2-3 hours before departure if you want two seats together.
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Post by JetBlack on Jul 22, 2014 22:15:01 GMT
seriously? I think I'll stick me thumb out! I used to use the Official coaches many seasons ago, but due to financial reasons haven't been able to afford to go away until this season. The free away travel has helped in this regard. The coaches from back then weren't too bad if I remember correctly. But we did start to go to some matches in cars, you know the sort of thing, one week I drive, the next week someone else drives and so on..
Still, I'll give it a go and if it IS as bad as people are saying, I'll revert back to my own transport again.
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Post by viewfromthecrowsnest on Jul 22, 2014 22:25:39 GMT
Money off all tickets is the equitable way to distribute this allocated money. I am slightly disappointed the club have chosen this route once again. As mentioned above, it would have been nice to have been consulted on such a large decision that affects the whole fanbase. So if you went to every away game including Newcastle and Southampton, would cheaper tickets make up the travel expense, assuming you made your own way to matches? Surely not?
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Post by potterglen on Jul 22, 2014 22:51:20 GMT
I have no problem with the free travel - its a great idea, but as some have stated but it doesn't help ex pats (who travel a considerable amount of miles just to attend home games). Surely the club can offer those who are not able to use the free transport a tenners worth of points which can be deducted off the cost of away tickets, it wouldn't be too expensive as the majority will continue to use the free transport. The Supporters Council gone AWOL again as with the interest free Season Ticket scheme, not sure who they actually represent tbh.
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Post by potterglen on Jul 22, 2014 23:05:15 GMT
It gives some fans a chance to get to away games they perhaps otherwise would have missed. Football is an expensive luxury in poor financial times for a lot of people. If the club can help put more bums on seats by putting their hands in their pockets then that can only be a good thing in my opinion. [/b] [/quote] [/quote] It wouldn't be too difficult to run the free travel in conjunction with discount on tickets, the vast majority would continue to use the free travel so the actual cost wouldn't be excessive. EG £10 off 200 travelling ex pats tickets x 19 games = £38,000. Less than 1/5 of the £200k!
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Post by potterglen on Jul 22, 2014 23:10:46 GMT
Moaning? Looks like fair comments to me, the only person moaning is.......mmm, you!
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Post by stokietony on Jul 23, 2014 10:48:51 GMT
Booked on Coach 2 For Hull game.Hope it's Quiet,Thinking of Taking me Pillow :-)
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Post by foster on Jul 23, 2014 11:05:52 GMT
I'd rather fans didn't go to away games where ticket prices are extortionate than have the club effectively give the home club money by subsidising them.
If people don't go to the games then they'll hopefully reduce costs a bit next time.
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Post by geoffscott on Jul 23, 2014 11:17:54 GMT
Used the free travel last year and couldn't fault it. I'll do the same again this year and with the money I save I won't feel so much pain when I'm buying kits in the club shop
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Post by cognacsmoker on Jul 23, 2014 12:17:09 GMT
The PL should impose a league-wide cap on away ticket prices, to stop some clubs taking the piss.
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Post by robinreliant on Jul 23, 2014 13:20:35 GMT
Booked on Coach 2 For Hull game.Hope it's Quiet,Thinking of Taking me Pillow :-) Coach 2 is for pussies; coach 1 is for the hard core fans ! Ask your mum to bake a file in your cake and don't forget the small change for the midtrip lottery and posttrip driver's collection ! Just remember: Hull and Hell are only one letter different.
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Post by andrewguk on Jul 24, 2014 15:30:15 GMT
Do the coaches have bogs?
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